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Doesn't add too much more than the NYT article but it's much more of Premo's own words and is still a nice read.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/dj-premier-gang-starr-one-of-the-best-yet-interview-906153/

DJ Premier Has a Lot to Say About Gang Starr’s First New Album in 16 Years
After the 2010 death of rapper Guru and a contentious legal battle, the revered producer is finally ready to revive the Gang Starr name with new album One of the Best Yet

By JASON NEWMAN

Gang Starr's DJ Premier tells us about the long road to releasing the group's new album 'One of the Best Yet' nine years after Guru's death.

The 2010 death of Guru, the rapper who created indelible tracks like “DWYCK” and “Mass Appeal” as half of pioneering 1990s hip-hop group Gang Starr, seemed to both cement and finalize the group’s legacy. The group hadn’t released an album since 2003’s The Ownerz and, in subsequent years, saw a falling out between Guru and his producer, the long-revered DJ Premier, over everything from ego to the rapper’s problems with alcohol.

Still, Guru remained prolific in the years following The Ownerz. “He was always known to record all the time,” DJ Premier tells Rolling Stone. “So that’s what made me start going, ‘Man I know there’s got to be a lot of unreleased stuff that exists.’”

Those unreleased vocals form the bedrock of One of the Best Yet, Gang Starr’s recently released first album in 16 years, which also features appearances from Q-Tip, Talib Kweli, J. Cole, M.O.P., and Royce Da 5’9″, among others. Premier’s ownership of Guru’s vocal tracks comes after a years-long battle with John Mosher, a producer known as DJ Solar who befriended Guru in 2001 and battled with the rapper’s family in court over unreleased material following his death. (In 2014, a judge ruled against Mosher, allowing Guru’s family to control Guru’s estate.)

In 2016, Mosher sold 30 unreleased Guru vocal tracks to Premier for an undisclosed sum, laying the groundwork for One of the Best Yet. The album sounds like a time capsule: a record that could’ve been released immediately after the Ownerz or any subsequent year. It’s a new gift for fans of Premier’s boom-bap production that dominated the sample-heavy, New York-centric strain of hip-hop that peaked in the mid-to-late 1990s.

For the past 18 months, Premier has been crafting beats in his Queens, New York, studio with Guru’s ashes sitting 24 hours a day on the recording console. (“We got the actual ashes of Guru on the boards,” Royce da 5’9″ rhymes on One of the Best Yet track “What’s Real.” “He’s sitting right inside an urn in the session/Lookin’ down from heaven at Gang Starr’s current progression.”)

“They’re all brand new,” he says. “I didn’t have beats sitting outside that I matched to his vocals. I wouldn’t want to do that.” The superproducer spoke to Rolling Stone about his long, circuitous road to finishing the album.

It still sounds odd, in a good way, to hear about a “new” Gang Starr album in 2019.

Oh, man. That was one of the best things I ever heard or say to people because I know the impact that Guru and I had on the world. And I’ve always – just as a fan myself — have wanted another Gang Starr album to exist just because I know our process and what we had as far as the unreleased material.

But it’s also mainly for his son, who he loved a lot. You always hear about the family that left money behind and riches for the children to live off of. And the first thing that crossed my mind once he was gone was, “Damn, man, we got to make sure his son is straight.” And I didn’t care if and I hadn’t spoken in a long time. I feel like we spoke when I went to the hospital. Even though he was in a coma, I know he heard me.

Did you feel a personal responsibility to take care of his family?

Absolutely. It’s the right thing to do. I’ve been doing it for family members and the same thing when it came to Guru. Through this group, I had a very successful life and my career continues to ride. The way died was really fucked up and tragic. I got to witness him in the hospital not awake. I went to court a few times and my attorney proved that all the copyrights were still in existence and our contract was still active. wish that was supposed to be carried out was, “Make sure my son gets all the stuff and that he’s the heir to my legacy.” That should be the first and foremost thing that should’ve happened and no one has done that but me and my team.

You performed a sage-burning ritual every day in the studio with Guru’s ashes. What did that entail and why was that important to you?

I’m a very spiritual guy. I believe in karma; what you do will come back. The majority of my life is spent doing nothing but godly things, especially when it comes to dealing with other people. My intentions were to make sure that the blessings come from not only Guru’s spirit, but just from the godly energy that I put out every day. I just said, “I’m going to take some sage being that it is known to ward off evil energy.”

Once we got the vocals, the first thing I needed to do is bless the room. So I took out his ashes and I did a clockwise circle around the ashes where the smoke billows around it three times. Then I do it counter-clockwise three times. Then I do top to bottom and side to side three times. Then I kiss the bag . Then I let the smoke from some incense billow all around the until it’s engulfed in smoke and I feel that’s Guru taking all the energy in to give back to us. Then I put the bag against the picture that I have on the console and I let the smoke billow in front of his face and my face, but I hold the bag to the frame so that it’s actually touching it.

And then I just say, “Keep that bad shit away from us.” Then I do clockwise around the picture, counter-clockwise around the picture, and then I billow the smoke one more time, kiss it and put it back in the bag. That’s my everyday. It takes five minutes; I do it the same every time.

Without the interplay between you and Guru in the studio, how different was it putting this album together versus past Gang Starr works? Did you try to emulate your process in the past, or did you purposely go about it in a new way?

No, I totally emulated it, like the same way we always did it: 100 percent. I go in with that attitude that he’s in the room and that we’re doing it the way that we’ve always done our formula. The only difference this time is he always wrote to my tracks; this time, I had to write to his vocals. The formula never changed and it always worked for us. So I wanted that same approach to happen with this process.

“The first time I heard … I was getting goosebumps and my hairs were standing up.”

What was your initial reaction to hearing that his unreleased vocals existed?

Once I knew these are vocals that no one out there, including myself, was familiar with, my brain was already like, “Wooooo, man, if I can get my hands on this …” This was a hope, a wish and a dream. taking some of the old songs and reworking them just so we can have something new. And it’s like, no, I’m not doing that because I’m just not with that shit. I wanted it to be where it’s like, “I ain’t never heard these rhymes before.” All the posthumous projects people have put out sound salvaged. I didn’t want it to sound like a salvaged album; I wanted it to sound like a brand-new album. I didn’t want it to sound like I’m just fighting to save these vocals just because there’s nothing else out there that I can work with.

Emotionally, what was it like the first time you heard the vocals?

The first time I heard them, I sat with a lawyer present to make sure they weren’t lyrics that I had heard before. Cause if they were, I already was like, “It’s not what I want.” It had to be a new Gang Starr album. I needed to know that this shit really has hooks and verses before I invest in purchasing all of this stuff. I was getting goosebumps and my hairs were standing up. The first song I did was “Bless the Mic,” and I was so nervous. I kept hesitating like, “Man, I’m not ready to do this shit.” It was almost scary for me, but in a good way. Once I , I was ready to go full throttle.

Can you talk about the first time you spoke to Solar about this project?

Naw, we never did. Everything went through my management and my lawyer. The last time we talked was 2004.

“It took a lot of spirituality to keep me calm and focused on this shit happening.”

You used the heavily loaded word “ransom” in a recent interview to describe paying for the vocals. You only hear that word in kidnappings or hijackings.

100 percent. That’s definitely right. That’s what it felt like just to finally close on getting them. I know how much value it is in giving this to the fans, and I know the fans want me to do it. I came to rescue . We were going to call the album The Rescue, but I was like, “Nah, I don’t need to throw no jabs. Everybody know how real I keep it.” For all the ones that hate me, it’s because they can’t get my love because they’re full of shit.

My main focus was the excitement as a fan even though I’m in the group. Also the fans getting another album that’s produced by me because that’s what they want and that’s what they deserve. And then thirdly is that his son eats off of this because he was nine years old .

DJ Solar claimed the songs were stolen from him. What’s your response to that?

Hilarious . You can’t get away with stuff like that when you’re on the level that I am. My name is too big to even get away with something of that magnitude without being in trouble. Maybe if I was an unknown guy that no one knew and I did all this shit you can’t really find because I’m under the radar. Maybe. But not when you’re DJ Premier. How in the hell can I do that and get away with it? There’s no possible fucking way.

Does it concern you when he says he plans to take legal action unless his name is added to the album’s credits?

No. Do whatever you want. We did everything by the book. All the paperwork’s legit. We’re not thieves. We don’t have a history of doing shit to anyone. So do whatever you want to do. We’re not here to fucking railroad anybody. We’re here to make sure everything is legitimately sealed to make sure that the fans get their part, the family get their part. And at the end of the day, what was fairly done was fairly done.

So it’s fair to say there’ll be no names added to the credits.
Oh, hell yes. You’re correct.

Are you worried that the dispute with Solar will overshadow the music?

Never. The fans have their own conclusions on how they feel and the fans were not happy ever with all the stuff that was going on prior to passing.

Have you thought about how you may present the new material live? Would you ever consider a hologram?

I would never, ever do a hologram. It’s too blasphemous. We have over 700 hours of footage from 1989 all the way up to 2004. Since we have so much live footage, now you have devices where we can strip down the music and just have his vocals present and sync him to playing live with my band or my turntables and it’ll be his own voice and you get to watch him move. We just tested it out a little bit, but we need to perfect it.

How would you sum up the last three years in three words?

Emotional. Exciting. Spiritual. It took a lot of spirituality to keep me calm and focused on this shit happening. I knew how much it was going to take of my soul to make this thing really sound like what is expected of a Gang Starr album.

Does this album bring you any closure?
Yeah, the closure for me is to get an album out after all this bullshit that makes everybody ignore anything in the past of his final days of living physically. I knew it would come. I felt it.

  

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Uh.....Gang Starr back!?! [View all] , phemom, Wed Sep-18-19 01:47 PM
 
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i just peed my pants a little
Sep 18th 2019
1
RE: i just peed my pants a little
Sep 18th 2019
8
ROYCE
Sep 18th 2019
2
Always.
Nov 01st 2019
153
Preemo better not be playing with my emotions
Sep 18th 2019
3
hmmmm... Preem wouldn't fumble this i don't think.
Sep 18th 2019
4
lets get a release date on the de la soul project
Sep 18th 2019
5
Great, Glad To Hear Dj Premier Is Ready To Work On That Last Album
Sep 18th 2019
6
RE: Uh.....Gang Starr back!?!
Sep 18th 2019
7
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Sep 18th 2019
9
RE: Uh.....Gang Starr back!?!
Sep 18th 2019
10
YES!
Sep 19th 2019
11
Don't drop a tweet ....
Sep 19th 2019
12
Well, J. Cole might be a feature
Sep 19th 2019
13
Dear god
Sep 19th 2019
14
lol i had the same reaction
Sep 19th 2019
15
: (
Sep 19th 2019
17
Gang Starr feat. J. Cole "Family And Loyalty" (Audio Lank)
Sep 19th 2019
16
Dope!
Sep 19th 2019
18
RE: Dope!
Sep 23rd 2019
49
Nice
Sep 19th 2019
19
Cole doesn’t sound right there at all. Guru rocked
Sep 20th 2019
20
you had me scared, read this before i listened
Sep 20th 2019
21
Thought the exact same thing.
Sep 20th 2019
23
I'm surprised people are cool with Cole on this
Sep 20th 2019
30
^^^ THIS MADE MY WHOLE YEAR!!! MY GOD!!!!
Sep 20th 2019
22
maaaaaaan
Sep 20th 2019
24
This makes me happy
Sep 20th 2019
25
you hit on it
Sep 20th 2019
26
This was dope...
Sep 20th 2019
27
Hotness.
Sep 20th 2019
28
can't be a phony, on this...this sounded AMAZING....
Sep 20th 2019
32
Another beautiful Premo beat from this week
Sep 20th 2019
29
what a creepy ass video.. and what a waste of a beat.
Sep 20th 2019
31
RE: what a creepy ass video.. and what a waste of a beat.
Sep 20th 2019
40
eh
Sep 20th 2019
33
RE: eh
Sep 20th 2019
34
Damn why didn't Primo saved this beat for
Sep 20th 2019
41
i thought the video was a perfect fit for the vibe of the song
Sep 22nd 2019
45
posner is kinda flowing like guru in a weird way.
Sep 22nd 2019
46
      btw increase the playback speed to 1.25 and enjoy.
Sep 22nd 2019
47
I miss Guru.
Sep 20th 2019
35
Yes.
Sep 20th 2019
36
Say it again, man
Sep 20th 2019
37
Yeah same here...
Sep 20th 2019
38
Big loss for the culture.
Sep 20th 2019
42
yep...listening to that new track at the gym this morning...
Sep 20th 2019
43
RE: I miss Guru.
Sep 20th 2019
44
the moment i heard his voice on this it felt like he was still here...
Sep 23rd 2019
48
He was one of the only rappers that could do a Premo beat
Sep 25th 2019
56
      ?
Sep 25th 2019
57
           Guru on a DJ Premier beat = perfection.
Sep 25th 2019
58
                that's a different statement
Sep 26th 2019
60
RE: Uh.....Gang Starr back!?!
Sep 20th 2019
39
Will there be an album?
Sep 24th 2019
50
sadly, i don't think so....
Sep 24th 2019
51
I bet Primo will drop it at midnight
Sep 25th 2019
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GODDAMMIT
Sep 25th 2019
53
That clip on Twitter made me think there was an album
Sep 25th 2019
54
don't forget he put together Big L's 2nd album
Sep 25th 2019
55
Didn't realize Premier worked on Big L's post-death album
Sep 26th 2019
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      oh yeah he was the exec producer on it I think
Sep 26th 2019
62
      He did fall off for a while.
Sep 26th 2019
63
id take 6-8 solid ones
Sep 26th 2019
59
MAAAN, i was OK with the Cole feature as a single
Oct 07th 2019
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Gang Starr - Family and Loyalty [Official Video] Fab 5 Freddy!!
Oct 02nd 2019
64
dope video
Oct 03rd 2019
65
for some reason...
Oct 06th 2019
66
same
Oct 07th 2019
68
DOPE!
Oct 10th 2019
70
Love this video...
Oct 11th 2019
71
NEW BIG SHUG & DJ PREMIER "STILL BIG"
Oct 08th 2019
69
AND ANOTHER ONE - "BAD NAME" tonight at midnight
Oct 17th 2019
72
This sounds dope !
Oct 17th 2019
73
love it
Oct 18th 2019
83
I love that ED O.G. vocal sample
Oct 18th 2019
94
Album confirmed 11/1!?
Oct 17th 2019
74
One Of The Best Yet - tracklist
Oct 17th 2019
75
Glad to see most of the features are the longtime affiliates/usual suspe...
Oct 18th 2019
78
Q-Tip is an interesting one...
Oct 18th 2019
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      Yea that should be great.
Oct 18th 2019
85
      RE: Q-Tip is an interesting one...
Oct 18th 2019
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Militia pt 4 though
Oct 18th 2019
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Mean mug time
Oct 18th 2019
92
*RECORD SCRATCH* JERU ON A GANGSTARR TRACK?!!
Oct 18th 2019
90
i was thinking a Speak Ya Clout pt II.... but Militia IV is 👍🏼
Oct 18th 2019
95
holy fucking shit @ that line up
Oct 19th 2019
96
Big Shug confirmed this on FB
Oct 18th 2019
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maaaan
Oct 18th 2019
77
How many beats you think Solar will have ?
Oct 18th 2019
79
respect fam but
Oct 18th 2019
80
      Very fair point.
Oct 18th 2019
86
LMAO Preem was messin with us saying it was a 1 off....
Oct 18th 2019
81
i was so happy reading this yesterday
Oct 18th 2019
84
I'm delaying my vacation just so I can have this for the ride down
Oct 18th 2019
89
“Here...we...go.”
Oct 18th 2019
93
Shit is about to be fucking epic!
Oct 19th 2019
97
This shit feels so good right now
Oct 18th 2019
91
NY Times article on how the album got made swipe.
Oct 29th 2019
98
thats not a swipe :(
Oct 29th 2019
99
I got you fam.
Oct 29th 2019
100
      RE: I got you fam.
Oct 29th 2019
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      I know, I was like whoa
Oct 30th 2019
103
      I hope that if another record is produced...
Oct 30th 2019
104
           that actually makes a lot of sense.
Oct 30th 2019
105
                Yes perfect sense
Oct 30th 2019
106
      much appreciated
Oct 30th 2019
107
      it bears mentioning again: #FuckSolar.
Oct 31st 2019
111
Not only that he’s a real dumb dumb
Nov 02nd 2019
156
This should be the vintage days...
Oct 29th 2019
101
im waiting to listen til i get up with my mans on saturday
Oct 30th 2019
108
its out there :)
Oct 31st 2019
109
drip
Oct 31st 2019
110
oh my......
Oct 31st 2019
112
i need a report on this album - STAT!
Oct 31st 2019
113
A new Gangstarr album comes out tomorrow.
Oct 31st 2019
114
Jeru's on a cut.
Nov 01st 2019
115
This MOP track is so good
Nov 01st 2019
116
shit is flames
Nov 01st 2019
123
I loved that that was the FIRST song after the intro
Nov 13th 2019
183
      I've never cared for MOP all that much but that track is #1.
Nov 13th 2019
184
Gang Starr has got to be the sure short and it’s like that!!!!!!
Nov 01st 2019
117
Listening to it now
Nov 01st 2019
118
Never thought I would hear Jeru over a Primeo beat again
Nov 01st 2019
119
Get Together sounds like it could be the next single
Nov 01st 2019
120
      shame, cause Ne-Yo doesn't belong on a Gang Starr album. Ever.
Nov 01st 2019
146
I get a Zonin vibe from Bless The Mic
Nov 01st 2019
121
      The What I'm Here 4 hook threw me off tho
Nov 02nd 2019
161
If this is the last one, it's a proper send off
Nov 01st 2019
122
37 minutes is just fine
Nov 01st 2019
124
Bingo
Nov 13th 2019
187
      Did you not like it previously ?!
Nov 13th 2019
189
True indeed. On my first listen and loving it
Nov 01st 2019
128
      thats unfortunate
Nov 01st 2019
131
      i thought Kweli had one of the better guest performances..
Nov 01st 2019
134
      I liked his verse...
Nov 01st 2019
132
      i want a remix of family and loyalty
Nov 01st 2019
143
           I would like to see Elzhi on the remix actually
Nov 01st 2019
151
This album deserves an anchored post
Nov 01st 2019
125
u know it's gon be good when u rewind the intro 10 times...
Nov 01st 2019
126
Only 10???
Nov 01st 2019
127
Man, what!!!!!!!!
Nov 01st 2019
129
that intro gave me the chills, fam....
Nov 01st 2019
133
That intro nearly had me in tears
Nov 01st 2019
136
I would pay for a Gangstarr Foundation tour
Nov 01st 2019
130
^^^^^
Nov 02nd 2019
162
I turned it off in the middle of the 1st full song (after the intro)...
Nov 01st 2019
135
nah, they have both (link)
Nov 01st 2019
138
That's weird...
Nov 01st 2019
141
Seriously ?!?!!! This is fucking devastating.
Nov 01st 2019
139
Nah..I downloaded the explicit jawn on my phone this morning.
Nov 01st 2019
145
I'm listening to the explicit as we speak
Nov 02nd 2019
159
      The first 8 tracks (including intro)
Nov 02nd 2019
160
           Royce is the best.
Nov 02nd 2019
163
Stayed up last night for the drop, then played all the way to work
Nov 01st 2019
137
feels like the mid-90's all over again...
Nov 01st 2019
140
fantastic
Nov 01st 2019
142
so this is actually a re-used verse
Nov 04th 2019
165
      anyone have any info/thoughts on this?
Nov 06th 2019
170
           i think he hinted at this on sway
Nov 11th 2019
179
                that kinda makes sense
Nov 11th 2019
180
                     i dont even know
Nov 11th 2019
181
                          yes thats true
Nov 11th 2019
182
This is absolutely beautiful.
Nov 01st 2019
144
Where Primeo talked about the ritual....Wow
Nov 02nd 2019
157
Was RS subtweeting Solar by calling Preem a "superproducer" ?
Nov 04th 2019
167
      shout out to My_SP1200_Broken_Again who called him 'Super POOPER'
Nov 18th 2019
200
One thing I wondered about was...
Nov 01st 2019
148
RE: One thing I wondered about was...
Nov 01st 2019
152
Facts.
Nov 01st 2019
154
he got 30 Pro Tools files, from what he said
Nov 11th 2019
177
      beyond what he got from Solar
Nov 11th 2019
178
This What's Real track goes hard.
Nov 01st 2019
149
Yep !
Nov 01st 2019
155
      But my personal standout is From A Distance.
Nov 02nd 2019
158
           RE: But my personal standout is From A Distance.
Nov 03rd 2019
164
                hate to be greedy.. but i want MORE Jeru+Premier
Nov 04th 2019
168
One listen through, dope
Nov 01st 2019
150
Gets better on every listen
Nov 04th 2019
166
Yeah... been listening more and more.
Nov 13th 2019
186
So good to hear that boom bap
Nov 06th 2019
169
so cole was the third choice?
Nov 07th 2019
171
guess the liner notes was a shot at those fools
Nov 07th 2019
172
      im a bit confused on the time line
Nov 07th 2019
173
           maybe Tip
Nov 07th 2019
174
                theres so many rappers that skill wise would have fit the track
Nov 07th 2019
175
                     Joey Bada$$
Nov 07th 2019
176
                          gross
Nov 13th 2019
185
                               huh? How would Drake have been any less pandering?
Nov 13th 2019
188
                               Bear in mind who the last couple of Gang Starr albums had in them...
Nov 13th 2019
190
                               how in the hell is Joey pandering?
Nov 14th 2019
192
                               I know exactly what that word means.
Nov 14th 2019
194
                                    "pandering" requires a large market to appeal to
Nov 14th 2019
195
                                         "Pandering" absolutely does not require a "large market"
Nov 14th 2019
196
                                              by definition, you are correct
Nov 14th 2019
197
                                              Yea fair enough.
Nov 14th 2019
198
                                              So... to sum up...
Nov 15th 2019
199
                               Drake is a good writer.
Nov 14th 2019
193
                               i have no idea what in the fuck you're even trying to say
Nov 14th 2019
191
uh-oh - issue with the song "What's Real"
Nov 21st 2019
201
RE: uh-oh - issue with the song "What's Real"
Nov 21st 2019
202
      I call BS on this one
Nov 23rd 2019
203
Glowing Mics Remix! (feat. Big Shug)
Apr 17th 2021
204

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