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35. "Don't agree, you're not really hating, but you make some strange points."
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>First, the album seems like two separate albums smashed
>together. In a weird way too. It's like he had this idea for
>a dope concept, and something (doubt, label, whatever) made
>him half-a$$ it. A lot of these tracks don't fit. Should
>have released two short albums or something.

Don't really know what you mean, but okay. Fair.


>Second, some of the beats/hooks? Meh. I read on here someone
>compared it to a musical? I guess that is kind of fitting,
>but it isn't really done particularly well.

So do you not like the way it sounds? You seem to be
responding to the praise and not the way the album
actually sounds.


>Third, I'm good on Royce singing- no matter how dope the
>concept is. He's just not a dude who can pull that off to me.
> I was very disappointed when I got to that track.

Okay. Finally a point directly about how the music
sounds.


>Also, when is he going to stop pandering to Em's fanbase? I
>don't think it is a coincidence that his last albums have had
>features from guys like Logic (lol lol), Yelawolf (wtf?), Mac
>Miller (lol), and Em himself now.

"Pandering."

Stop it.

Do you like those songs, or not?

Because most of the songs you're talking actually SOUND
good. All this psychoanalysis about "pandering" is silly.
Stop it, please.


>Just seems almost painfully obvious he is trying to ensure
>**those** numbers at any cost.

Don't know what you're talking about.

It's music. You listen to it.

>I dunno. Royce is a spitter obviously, and it is nice to hear
>him stretch out with actual songs and concepts...but overall
>this album isn't hitting like THAT to me.

Okay, so you just don't like the way it sounds? That's fine

>I kind of feel like people pull for him because he's a rappers
>rapper, the underdog, got a raw deal initially, etc...and let
>him kind of get away with corny sh!t that others would get
>called out for.

More psychoanalysis.

Nobody cares about that shit.

People like the album because it sounds good.

>I mean the 4:44 comparisons...how bad would this place fry
>Jay-Z for doing tracks with Logic and sh!t? Or Nas for some
>of these beats and corny hooks? Or Kweli if he tried to sing?
> Hell Cole gets fried for his singing all the time. But its
>okay for Royce?

Weird argument here. You should have probably just kept this
point inside your head and wrote it in a diary or something
because it doesn't make a lot of sense here.

>Just feels like he's getting graded on an underdog/likeable
>curve.

You're reading too much into it.

People put the album on, and liked the way it sounded.

Relax, buddy.


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Royce da 5'9" - Book of Ryan [View all] , Oak27, Thu May-03-18 12:06 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
nice to hear Em rap over a real beat for the first time in what feels li...
May 03rd 2018
1
Precisely.
May 06th 2018
22
thx for da info
May 03rd 2018
2
Mr Porter did his thing on this.
May 03rd 2018
3
first of the month is awesome
May 04th 2018
16
Dude has turned into an amazing musician
May 11th 2018
39
Can't wait
May 03rd 2018
4
cocaine is on repeat
May 03rd 2018
5
did his thing on there.
May 04th 2018
10
Is it better than PRhyme 2?
May 03rd 2018
6
I like Book of Ryan more, but to each their own
May 04th 2018
13
i don't care what anybody says, em still raps his ass off.
May 03rd 2018
7
that verse was crazy. the anderson silva part? nigga.
May 04th 2018
9
He does rap his ass off. I just never got into dude.
May 04th 2018
11
Em just keeps going and going on this
May 04th 2018
12
His rapping ability has never been in question.
May 06th 2018
23
that "caterpillar" video is dope
May 03rd 2018
8
really like this album
May 04th 2018
14
I agree, this is an album where the skits add to the experience
May 04th 2018
15
Stellar
May 04th 2018
17
summer on lock is the new summer on smash
May 04th 2018
18
im a stan but...this is the opus of a master
May 04th 2018
19
Power... Man, what a song.
May 04th 2018
20
I stopped what I was doing entirely and just listened
May 06th 2018
21
I'm yet to hear the whole thing but that Caterpillar track is LUDICROUS.
May 07th 2018
24
its better.
May 07th 2018
25
      Damn. Even more excited now.
May 07th 2018
26
Cocaine, Power, Life Is Fair, Boblo Boat
May 08th 2018
27
Finally made the album I knew he could make
May 08th 2018
28
he justs seems to keep getting better and better
May 10th 2018
31
      Losing Out is probably top 25ish for me all time
May 11th 2018
37
           I looooooooove that song. Also love "Motown 25"
May 11th 2018
40
                both are soooo good
May 11th 2018
43
He finally made an album I can love after Death Is Certain
May 09th 2018
29
I really liked Street Hop, but one thing about that album always bothere...
May 10th 2018
30
      I forgot about "Part of Me". Great song.
May 10th 2018
33
           there are a bunch of songs i love on street hop
May 11th 2018
36
           I haven't listened to Shake This in years, THANKS
May 14th 2018
53
                No prob. It's an unreal song. Preem went in on that beat.
May 14th 2018
54
                     It's an amazing song BUT
May 14th 2018
57
Anyway this album is tremendous.
May 10th 2018
32
still digesting...but I guess I'll be that guy
May 10th 2018
34
I’m relaxed. What’s funny is
May 11th 2018
42
doeant seem like hating ht to answer a question
May 11th 2018
38
^ agree with every single word you just said.
May 11th 2018
41
Very fair point on building credibility
May 11th 2018
44
i thought this too... 2 separate albums.
May 12th 2018
45
Whatever happened to Carlos "Six July" Broady?
May 12th 2018
46
He was dope...
May 12th 2018
47
      RE: He was dope...
May 14th 2018
56
RE: i thought this too... 2 separate albums.
May 12th 2018
49
      Yep.
May 12th 2018
50
           lol it sure did.
May 19th 2018
59
use Specific songs when you make criticisms
May 20th 2018
62
All this talk
May 12th 2018
48
I've listened to this album 10 times from beginning to end...
May 13th 2018
51
some of these arguments man... smh
May 14th 2018
52
I get the streaming thing..
May 19th 2018
60
that eminem verse was fucking garbage lol, this is a cool album tho
May 14th 2018
55
you're nuts. that verse is amazing
May 19th 2018
61
this is just a good ass album
May 15th 2018
58
Damn fine album. Listened to it a lot when it first dropped
May 20th 2018
63
Super late - amazing album
Mar 31st 2019
64
havent listened to this in a while
Apr 01st 2019
65

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