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ChanEpic
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7. "RE: Pretty sure analog mixer into an ADAT"
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Wed Mar-19-14 02:40 PM by ChanEpic

  

          

>
>Nah, disagree. Just going through a mixer pre tracking,
>meaning the individual sounds were still being tracked to the
>ADAT after being eq'd (I doubt there was compression per
>channel on what he had), makes a significant difference than
>just straight tracking. Every analog mixer, even shitty ones
>are going to add color. And tracking your eq means that's the
>place that it's starting from. If he takes that adat to a
>bigger studio it already has a sound on it which the engineer
>is going to help bring out, but just in the tracking he's
>added his touches to it.
>

No disagreement there. So to be straight here (because I too am intrigued with Dilla's workflow) he programmed on the MPC, tracked that out to the 24 channel mixer to EQ it there and then print to ADAT? If so that speaks to what I was saying about having the 24 channel mixer in the signal flow SPECIFICALLY because it mangles sound in a pleasing way. Because if it isn't for the special sauce of the channel strip, what would be the point of pushing it through the mixer just to then port it to ADAT to THEN be mixed?

So the EQ on the mixer was there for that purpose. I guess we're both Kinda right?



>>EQ and Compression are the ONLY ways to make individual
>sounds
>>sound the way the OP wishes they would.
>
>which is accomplishable with the mixer (sans compression which
>isn't necessary, but also was onboard the 3000). You can get
>the sound you want out of just that. Then you have that sound
>mixed.
>

If and only if that mixer was used for that purpose. I've had almost all of the MPC versions ever made and the compression was always the weak point IMHO. I never used it and sought out compressors that were more tasty so to speak. Again if Dilla was only using onboard MPC compression he was even a bigger genius than I thought.



>>Did Dilla even actually mix his own stuff or did he track it
>>and then send it to be mixed?
>
>Based on what I'm describing it doesn't matter but probably
>the latter.
>
>Disclaimer - everything I'm saying is speculation based on the
>gear I saw him with.
>


Actually I would argue it REALLY matters because if the mix was good coming out of the DAW/Board there would be no need to send it to be mixed. Maybe mastering but not mixing. I just checked Dilla's disco and he gets a mixer credit on only 2 of the projects he was involved in.
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/jay-dee-mn0000809513/credits

  

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Can anyone drop some science? After Dilla made the beat on the MPC... [View all] , judono, Wed Mar-19-14 02:00 PM
 
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RE: Can anyone drop some science? After Dilla made the beat on the MPC.....
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Pretty sure analog mixer into an ADAT
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RE: Pretty sure analog mixer into an ADAT
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      RE: Pretty sure analog mixer into an ADAT
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It wasnt just Dilla. From like 96 to 02 sound. That EQ /compression is ...
Mar 19th 2014
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the secret was taking your tracks to studios with engineers n/m
Mar 19th 2014
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EXACTLY!!!
Mar 19th 2014
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      This is not just bad advice, but pure bullshit
Mar 20th 2014
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      Might be bad advice to you, but not for all.
Mar 20th 2014
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           RE: Might be bad advice to you, but not for all.
Mar 20th 2014
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           I don't actually load any samples in them...
Mar 20th 2014
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           don't do it nigga
Mar 21st 2014
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                Do as I DAMN please.
Mar 21st 2014
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      of course Dilla had engineers on the Commercial Beat Placements
Mar 20th 2014
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           RE: of course Dilla had engineers on the Commercial Beat Placements
Mar 20th 2014
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           EXACTLY what I was trying to say.
Mar 20th 2014
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           Do as you please!
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RE: It wasnt just Dilla. From like 96 to 02 sound. That EQ /compression...
Mar 19th 2014
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45King's Set Was Simple But Ahead Of His Time
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RE: Can anyone drop some science? After Dilla made the beat on the MPC.....
Mar 19th 2014
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not currently on the MPC, but have rocked the 2000xl, 1000 & 2500
Mar 20th 2014
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RE: this thread on gearslutz has some jewels in it
Mar 19th 2014
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RE: the compressor he used on his drums
Mar 19th 2014
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RE: the compressor he used on his drums
Mar 19th 2014
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thx for posting. gonna check this out later this evening
Mar 20th 2014
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it was dillas ears man...
Mar 19th 2014
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RE: it was dillas ears man...
Mar 20th 2014
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in other words
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you're getting it twisted. i just used Dilla as one example. the ? was
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Starting around 2001/2002, Dilla had a do-it-all ability for mixing
Mar 19th 2014
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Those 2002 Batches were a revelation.
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a lot goes into it
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even if you sample your kicks in loud, and mess with the filter,
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      There's more to shaping a drum sound than loud sampling and a filter
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      If you don't mind me asking...
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QUESTLOVE, if you have any tips... you been in this since the early 90's
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Archival 15 (link)
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Here's the gear
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I've Been Trying To Make My Drums Hit Hard For Years...
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RE: I've Been Trying To Make My Drums Hit Hard For Years...
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      You're preaching to deaf ears...
Mar 20th 2014
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Unrelated bonus ish
Mar 20th 2014
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RE: the thing i'm most interested in
Mar 20th 2014
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ACP88..but its kinda overrated.
Mar 21st 2014
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Start with what you're sampling first
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RE: Start with what you're sampling first
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