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Remedial
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28. "It's not about a major label mentality."
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Thu Jan-23-14 01:46 PM by Remedial

  

          

>Everyone you named is probably making a living off of their
>art. Its a new day in the music business
>
>as Mos Def said YEEEEEARS ago
>"This thing called rhyming no different from coal mining...."
>
>They are working and getting paid well for it
>
>These folks have fan bases that are willing to support them
>and I don't think the fact that they aren't in Best Buy or on
>Interscope is a gauge of their success or failure.
>
>The money is in doing shows and monetizing your brand, and I
>think Nipsey, Gibbs, Stalley, Dom, etc have that ish down and
>are probably more than happy with their current and
>prospective situations

And, Macklemore is the PERFECT example of this. Independent ALL THE WAY. But selling albums like hot cakes. And, I know we can use that usual cop out of them being white and writing songs that cater to teeny boppers, but that would tremendously discount what they've accomplished.

First off, they took the money they made off of Thrift Shop and pushed the HELL out of Can't Hold Us, shooting an amazing video to go along with a really good song.

THAT'S where most black independent rap artists fall short. They won't take all this money that they're "supposedly" making and put it back into establishing their brand. Instead, we'll still get the same hood videos (which are much better in comparison to the Nick Quested ones from back in the day).

Shit, most of the time we won't even get a "proper" release from them. Just mixtape upon mixtape with a few of them getting an eventual lackluster physical release.

Mehn, Thrift Shop was the FIFTH single off of the Macklemore album. You know how much you have to BELIEVE in yourself and your project to put out a FIFTH single?!

I know I SHO AS HELL ain't gonna find those Freddie Gibbs or Nipsey Hussle mixtapes/albums on Target shelves outside of their hometowns.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

  

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What stalled the careers of Nipsey, Gibbs, Stalley, etc... [View all] , Remedial, Wed Jan-22-14 11:06 AM
 
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I'm only really a fan of Stalley so
Jan 22nd 2014
1
But, they should have KNOWN that before signing him.
Jan 22nd 2014
2
RE: But, they should have KNOWN that before signing him.
Jan 22nd 2014
5
      Nah, Honest Cowboy wasn't that good.
Jan 22nd 2014
7
Stalley soooo boring on records to me
Jan 23rd 2014
30
      If you've never heard Lincoln City Nights, give it a try.
Jan 23rd 2014
31
           I will, thanks
Jan 23rd 2014
32
The market for rappers of their breed
Jan 22nd 2014
3
True...
Jan 22nd 2014
4
      RE: True...
Jan 22nd 2014
6
           RE: True...
Jan 22nd 2014
9
You mentioned Pretty Ugly. Props for that.
Jan 22nd 2014
8
Pretty Ugly had PRESENCE!!
Jan 22nd 2014
10
PU was that dude for me in the early 00s
Jan 22nd 2014
11
him, Royce and Agallah WERE Grand Theft Auto III for me
Jan 22nd 2014
18
      K-JAH
Jan 23rd 2014
33
Gibbs's career isn't stalled though
Jan 22nd 2014
12
ESGN dropped last year and i loved it
Jan 22nd 2014
13
Nipsey has that
Jan 22nd 2014
15
      What's Nipsey's best project?
Jan 23rd 2014
34
i fuck with nipsey hussle
Jan 22nd 2014
14
I guess it depends how you define stalled
Jan 22nd 2014
16
RE: I guess it depends how you define stalled
Jan 23rd 2014
25
      True mainstream success is hard to attain
Jan 24th 2014
36
           RE: True mainstream success is hard to attain
Jan 25th 2014
43
                Out of curiosity
Jan 27th 2014
46
seems like they are all trying to implement the Curren$y blueprint
Jan 22nd 2014
17
Well said.
Jan 23rd 2014
27
stalley never had a chance.
Jan 22nd 2014
19
The Rawse cosign raised already too high expectations
Jan 23rd 2014
35
let go of the that (major label/'real' album) mentality
Jan 22nd 2014
20
      RE: It's not about a major label mentality.
Jan 24th 2014
39
      Thanks for filling me in.
Jan 25th 2014
41
      macklemore aint independent ...
Jan 24th 2014
40
           No need to reiterate another man's revelation.
Jan 25th 2014
44
                RE: No need to reiterate another man's revelation.
Jan 27th 2014
45
                     Everyone likes a great cop out...
Jan 27th 2014
47
forget all that, they're doing great. what happened to GANGSTA PILL?
Jan 22nd 2014
21
How are their careers stalled?
Jan 23rd 2014
22
Those dudes are doing well for a rapper in 2014
Jan 23rd 2014
23
yea, Lambo used the term "rich" recently to describe Gibbs
Jan 23rd 2014
24
I think something went down with Pill.
Jan 23rd 2014
26
The problem with being content with mediocrity is..
Jan 23rd 2014
29
      all the guys you listed have perfectly fine careers going.
Jan 24th 2014
37
           Understood.
Jan 25th 2014
42
Nipsey gave a good explanation of his career on Combat Jack's show
Jan 24th 2014
38

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