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Subject: "yup. it is masterful in terms of..."
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astralblak
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20029 posts
Tue Jan-07-14 10:55 PM
25. "yup. it is masterful in terms of..."
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internal rhyme structure
cadence
and delivery
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It Was Written > Illmatic
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Tue Jan-07-14 01:24 PM
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Yea. Stupid. Angry that I gave them the page view.
Brew
Jan 07th 2014
1
yup, just another dude who thinks popularity trumps art
philpot
Jan 07th 2014
4
so it wasn't stupid at all. it was well thought out. you...
astralblak
Jan 07th 2014
24
damn, you might not be as smart as i thought
philpot
Jan 08th 2014
48
My point was that...
Brew
Jan 08th 2014
49
I think I'm in the minority that agrees It Was Written > Illmatic
Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Jan 07th 2014
2
im with you.
guru0509
Jan 07th 2014
6
I loved IWW Illmatic was aight
Ray_Snill
Jan 08th 2014
38
I agree.
thesickboi
Jan 10th 2014
82
lol, how cute
philpot
Jan 07th 2014
3
you could say that the rapping on iww is better
makaveli
Jan 07th 2014
5
I don't think you could.
Brew
Jan 07th 2014
7
me either
Bombastic
Jan 07th 2014
20
I believe it is
Anonymous
Jan 07th 2014
22
I don't think I'd take it THAT far
Garhart Poppwell
Jan 08th 2014
32
*shrugs* I would
Anonymous
Jan 08th 2014
33
RE: you could say that the rapping on iww is better
Birminghams Savage
Jan 09th 2014
70
i think for a lot of people the subject matters takes away from it
makaveli
Jan 09th 2014
71
Nope. Largely cause of the doo doo stain that is Nas is Coming.
WarriorPoet415
Jan 07th 2014
8
i love that song. that beat booms in a quality system
astralblak
Jan 07th 2014
26
i like that song too
makaveli
Jan 10th 2014
80
That intro. Ugh.
cbk
Jan 08th 2014
29
Hah! I've thought that for a while
PCProductions
Jan 08th 2014
40
that shit always annoyed the fuck out of me
redbaron
Jan 09th 2014
74
naaah
naame
Jan 07th 2014
9
Yes. Lyrically that was Nas' at his bewildering best
kwez
Jan 07th 2014
10
what was he even saying tho?
philpot
Jan 07th 2014
11
RE: what was he even saying tho?
waiters07
Jan 07th 2014
12
a little sugar to help the poison go down?
philpot
Jan 07th 2014
13
This made me laugh.
Brew
Jan 07th 2014
14
RE: a little sugar to help the poison go down?
waiters07
Jan 07th 2014
15
are people dumb enough to follow dumb ass rappers?
philpot
Jan 07th 2014
16
i would say they are equal
Sylana
Jan 07th 2014
17
It's called contrarianism
PCProductions
Jan 07th 2014
18
I'm not mad at the premise
Luke Cage
Jan 07th 2014
19
I been arguing this on these here boards for like 15 years...lol
Nate Geezie
Jan 07th 2014
21
brevity ADDS to Illmatic's superior status actually
philpot
Jan 07th 2014
23
Sports Analogy Time! lol
Nate Geezie
Jan 08th 2014
35
sports/art analogies are bound to fall apart
philpot
Jan 08th 2014
37
With you 100%.
Brew
Jan 08th 2014
41
They aren't perfect, but it helps people understand my point of view
Nate Geezie
Jan 08th 2014
44
i can dig it
philpot
Jan 08th 2014
45
Great counterpoints. No argument from me. Just...
Brew
Jan 08th 2014
47
I'll take on your sports analogy theory
Luke Cage
Jan 08th 2014
46
I Feel You...
Nate Geezie
Jan 08th 2014
50
I get that you aren't shitting on Illmatic
Luke Cage
Jan 09th 2014
72
it must be a relief that some schmuck finally agrees w/you
redbaron
Jan 09th 2014
75
Naw, plenty of people agree with me...Just not in "The Lesson"
Nate Geezie
Jan 09th 2014
76
i wrote about this very thing when IWW turned 15 in 2011
astralblak
Jan 07th 2014
27
it's debatable for sure.
Aeon
Jan 08th 2014
28
Illmatic is the better album, BUT
the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Jan 08th 2014
30
it the closest Nas will get-there have been better albums lyrically
Garhart Poppwell
Jan 08th 2014
31
I know you're going to say Follow The Leader...but what else?
Anonymous
Jan 08th 2014
34
not what I said at all
Garhart Poppwell
Jan 08th 2014
51
I think people tend to grade originators on too much of a curve at times
Anonymous
Jan 09th 2014
54
that isn't what's happening here
Garhart Poppwell
Jan 10th 2014
78
I hear ya bro
the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Jan 08th 2014
36
both are classic to me. n/m
sweeneykovar
Jan 08th 2014
39
Say what you want about the lyrics, and they might be better
PCProductions
Jan 08th 2014
42
Illmatic and It Was Written are two sides of the same coin
Chanson
Jan 08th 2014
43
What are the Jay-Z jabs he's talking about?
Cineno
Jan 09th 2014
52
I read the the whole article but disregarded it at that moment
Anonymous
Jan 09th 2014
53
Glad I wasn't the only one
Cineno
Jan 09th 2014
57
that's that revisionist theory ish. Jay done made cats rewrite history
Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Jan 09th 2014
55
yeah i only remember shots being directed towards BIG
makaveli
Jan 09th 2014
56
you guys don't do your research, do you?
waiters07
Jan 09th 2014
58
Yeah I read that. Did you?
Cineno
Jan 09th 2014
60
what?
waiters07
Jan 09th 2014
61
My point is that....
Cineno
Jan 09th 2014
63
nah, we hate complex here
Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Jan 09th 2014
62
Dead Pesidents/Aint No & Cant Knock were all on the radio
philpot
Jan 09th 2014
65
RE: Dead Pesidents/Aint No & Cant Knock were all on the radio
Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Jan 09th 2014
67
lmao shut the fuck up IWW went like double plat
the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Jan 09th 2014
73
yeah, that Lauren feature got him a lot of love
philpot
Jan 10th 2014
79
But Phil...
Anonymous
Jan 10th 2014
81
im just challenging the notion that Jay wasnt popular at the time
philpot
Jan 10th 2014
83
"Lex('s) with TV sets, the minimum" - Nas on "The Message"
Chanson
Jan 09th 2014
59
it always bothered me that Common denied dissing Nas
makaveli
Jan 09th 2014
64
Why would he use an 11 year old song...
Brew
Jan 09th 2014
66
Common dissed a lot of people subliminally
Chanson
Jan 09th 2014
68
Yea but he usually made it clear why he was dissing them...
Brew
Jan 09th 2014
69
Nas reached his peak as an emcee on IWW
ChiefRocka
Jan 09th 2014
77
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