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14. "please, Southern bias is all that could keep anyone from saying it ain't"
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that shit coulda been a classic just off Mannie Fresh's instrumentals let alone with Juvenile bringing to the genre brand new rhyme styles, effortless hooks & vocal dexterity that could only have been birthed from a city as deep/rich as in American musical heritage as New Orleans.

If he ain't a Hot Boy, den whadya call dat?!?

Just because some folks couldn't understand dude initially didn't mean he wasn't spitting on this.

Juvie had 'Ha' & 'Back Dat Azz Up' in his back pocket on his own before he was legal to vote while out rocking bars/clubs live before he even joined Cash Money/Hot Boys.

It's not an accident that this album & specifically those two singles were what the camp led with to introduce themselves to the world after the historic Universal deal.

It'd be ridiculous to pretend an album that introduced Cash Money and all its major players to the globe is somehow not a 'classic' but then say Dah Shinin, Stunts Blunts & Hip-Hop, Capital Punishment, Dare Iz A Darkside or Youngest In Charge are (and I love/grew up with each one of those records).

That'd be the height of Northeast arrogance to try to sell that lie that *this* was a regional classic & those aren't.

This album dropped the same season as Aquemini & was just as ubiquitous, you didn't have to be in the South (tho technically I was in Maryland but that shit don't really count) to hear this album.

Still holds up too.

400 Degreez is a monster on an impact & quality level, to me better but indisputably more 'important' than anything Cash Money (a label that's now over 20 years running while Bad Boy, Death Row or any other label of its kind has fallen by the wayside) has put out to this day.

Guerilla Warfare is a classic as well & probably Chopper City too (tho B.G. gets the 'root for the underdog' & 'we can understand his drawl & non-commercial approach' style points from others who fronted on Juvenile while he was leading the way).

They could have put singles off this for another full year if Baby didn't want to start rolling out other stuff to piggyback off 400 Degreez' momentum.

The album tracks (Gone Ride With Me, Run For It & especially the title-track which still destroys in a vehicle with good sound to this day) are even better than the songs that got that heavy-rotation MTV run back then.

  

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Is 400 Degreez a classic album to you? [View all] , gritty, Tue Jul-23-13 01:52 AM
 
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Down south, yeszir!
Jul 23rd 2013
1
Yessir!
Jul 23rd 2013
2
This is THE landmark album from the era when Louisiana ran rap music
Jul 23rd 2013
3
I don't even like southern rap like that and I think its a classic
Jul 23rd 2013
4
RE: Is 400 Degreez a classic album to you?
Jul 23rd 2013
5
yes that shit changed shit...Black rob came out with Whoa
Jul 23rd 2013
6
Interesting observation on the Ha influence on Whoa
Jul 24th 2013
13
      Puffy stay biting the south
Jul 24th 2013
22
           Puffy stay biting everyone, let's be real.
Jul 25th 2013
27
southern classic perhaps
Jul 23rd 2013
7
I like how Southern classics tend to be separated. ONLY Outkast,
Jul 23rd 2013
9
shit sold over 5 million talkin about southern classic
Jul 24th 2013
15
Riiiiiiiight, meanwhile cats up North was feeling it too
Jul 24th 2013
11
      RE: Scoreboard.
Jul 24th 2013
16
      more a commentary on this forum than anything else from where I sit
Jul 24th 2013
25
      agree with all that except for one part
Jul 24th 2013
19
      fair enough
Jul 24th 2013
24
      Great post, I couldn't have said it any better.
Jul 24th 2013
21
Rich niggaz >>>>>>>>>
Jul 23rd 2013
8
loud pipes big rims nigga that's my life...
Jul 25th 2013
28
they took over local ranks from Master P and No limit
Jul 23rd 2013
10
absolutely...
Jul 24th 2013
12
RE: Is 400 Degreez a classic album to you?
Jul 24th 2013
17
No Limit was officially dead once 400 Degreez dropped.
Jul 24th 2013
18
I'm sorry you can't call an album that went 5x plat a regional classic
Jul 24th 2013
20
fuck yeah man, most definitely.
Jul 24th 2013
23
yup
Jul 24th 2013
26

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