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Subject: ""i listen to hip hop, not rap.""

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Joe Corn Mo
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Tue Jul-23-13 01:50 PM

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""i listen to hip hop, not rap.""

what does this phrase mean to you?
how do you feel about people using this phrase?

i typically hear this phrase from white people, and i never quite know what they mean.
how do people that use that phrase distinguish rap from hip hop?
and why don't they listen to rap?

i have asked his question of people that use the phrase,
but the answers didn't quite make sense to me.

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"i listen to hip hop, not rap." [View all] , Joe Corn Mo, Tue Jul-23-13 01:50 PM

Subject	Author	Message Date	ID
i hate that phrase so much that it isn't even funny	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	1
i don't know enough about rap to dislike the phrase...	Joe Corn Mo	Jul 23rd 2013	3
its basically this	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	6
This, entirely.	kid_charlemagne	Jul 23rd 2013	22
the Green Day is not punk thing is corny too...	Jakob Hellberg	Jul 23rd 2013	12
i would laugh in the face of anyone over age 22 who said that shit.	SoWhat	Jul 23rd 2013	2
Lol-right??	bski	Jul 25th 2013	92
It's retarded, but been perpetuated by trusted voices	CMcMurtry	Jul 23rd 2013	4
it's actually 'rap is something u do, hip-hop is something u LIVE' which	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	7
Ahhh, ok, it's been a while since I heard Kris' spiel, I'm a little rust...	CMcMurtry	Jul 23rd 2013	8
He's not dissing rap	Zarathuckya	Jul 23rd 2013	38
I instantly disregard anyone who says that kind of dumb shit	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	5
^This	Nick Has a Problem...Seriously	Jul 23rd 2013	9
BINGO	Luke Cage	Jul 23rd 2013	16
co sign	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	17
I went through a phase where I said that (or something similar)...	Ishwip	Jul 23rd 2013	10
That phrase made perfect sense in sweden in the late 80's-early 90's...	Jakob Hellberg	Jul 23rd 2013	11
FALCO	box	Jul 23rd 2013	14
Well, let's put it like this:	Jakob Hellberg	Jul 23rd 2013	19
that's interesting.	Joe Corn Mo	Jul 23rd 2013	18
Type of dudes to say "There's a dif between Blacks and Niggers" fuck em	Brotha Sun	Jul 23rd 2013	13
This HERE.. EXACTLY!	JG.	Jul 23rd 2013	85
Cultural Invaders	Luke Cage	Jul 23rd 2013	15
I'll take Shit People Said At Age 16 In 1998 for 200, Alex.	Ryan M	Jul 23rd 2013	20
question: is graffitti part of "rap"?	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	21
rapping is what an MC/rapper/rhymesayer/etc does	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	24
this is why i think there is a distinction between "rap" & "hip-hop"	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	26
its not that complicated man	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	27
maybe some prefer the use of the term "hip-hop" because ...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	29
maybe they do	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	33
see, me? i prefer the term hip-hop & when i use rap...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	36
I did that years ago	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	40
why is it dumb?	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	41
oh it's trying to be cool, and superior, it just fails & comes off silly	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013
exactly	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	46
i mean y'all keep saying all this stuff, it's "silly", it's "dumb"	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	51
my posts #44 and #6	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	52
both of those posts are unconvincing...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	55
I think people that try to act like	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	59
hmmm...sounds like a perhaps exaggerated phenomenon...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	62
wait...what....maybe I'm reading your post wrong.....	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	65
that statement i made has to be qualified...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	68
because saying that someone is a "rapper"	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	44
actually...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	53
can u give examples of a rapper clownin someone by callin them a rapper?	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	61
rappaz r n dainja	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	63
followed 5 minutes later on the album by 'MCs Act Like They Don't Know'?	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	70
RE: followed 5 minutes later on the album by 'MCs Act Like They Don't Kn...	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	71
very true	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	74
RE: rappaz r n dainja	Luke Cage	Jul 23rd 2013	76
RE: this is why i think there is a distinction between "rap" &...	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	39
This is not really true:	Jakob Hellberg	Jul 23rd 2013	35
yes, actually it is	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	42
Only people who primarily listen to rock / dance etc... say this.	kid_charlemagne	Jul 23rd 2013	23
RE: Only people who primarily listen to rock / dance etc... say this.	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	25
Like as a distinction between 'mainstream' and 'underground'?	kid_charlemagne	Jul 23rd 2013	30
you hit the nail on the head my friend	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	31
it makes perfect sense actually	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	34
bullshit	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	45
yeah i can't let this shit fly either....	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	49
one thing ive noticed in this post...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	50
I actually don't know how you have read through	Kosa12	Jul 23rd 2013	54
im reading a lot of "that's so lame"	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	56
try reading again, maybe stepping back from emotion or challenging	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	58
im very guilty of it too but...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	64
I mean I've laid it out fairly plainly the whys/whats/whens as I see it	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	57
so the statement lacks substance...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	66
wouldn't say it's full outrage but when one takes a genre label	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	67
the OG south BX pioneers...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	69
U have to ask em but Superappin by Flash/The Furious Five dropped in '79	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	73
rapper's delight....	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	75
Now what you hear is not a test, I'm rapping to the beat	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	77
wait...that's why i brought that song up	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	79
you're making it more complicated than need be tho, 'rapping'	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	83
you're somehow missing my ?	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	84
I guess so, ask it to me as if I was a five-year-old & perhaps	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	86
...	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	88
RE: ...	Bombastic	Jul 25th 2013	93
During the height of the backpacker period I might have	Steve O Tron v2	Jul 23rd 2013	28
I like both country and western	maro	Jul 23rd 2013	32
I said shit this when I was like 16, 17 lol	ChiefRocka	Jul 23rd 2013	37
That phrase screams "I'm an asshole"	PCProductions	Jul 23rd 2013	43
Also screams "I really want to be a part of KRS' Church of Hip Hop"	Ryan M	Jul 23rd 2013	47
basically, it's the rap fan version of the incredibly long coffee order	Bombastic	Jul 23rd 2013	48
WHY?	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	60
Because it's pedantic and condescending?	PCProductions	Jul 23rd 2013	72
that's been said...repeatedly	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	78
Overcharacterization of music is always an eye-roller to me	PCProductions	Jul 23rd 2013	80
so its an asthetic/sensibility thing?	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	82
Not at all dude	PCProductions	Jul 23rd 2013	87
ok i can dig it	philpot	Jul 23rd 2013	89
RE: "i listen to hip hop, not rap."	ajiav	Jul 23rd 2013	81
The past 6 or 7 years have really deaded this attitude, huh?	Madvillain 626	Jul 23rd 2013	90
thanks for all of these responses.	Joe Corn Mo	Jul 23rd 2013	91

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