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>>I'm not confusing the issue, you are. The OP named >Radiohead >>as a band that hides poor musicianship behind good >>songwriting. I responded saying they can play. >> >>Now you're looking for "excellent musicianship", lol. All I >>said was they can play. That video more than showed that. >>They weren't playing like Weather Report because they're a >>rock band. They're not supposed to! >> >>Buddy, we're cool. I'm calm. Don't get upset over a little >>snark. Let's hug it out. >> > >Haha, ok then we're cool. But I'm still not confusing the >issue on this one - the OP in question did say he was looking >for "great" musicianship, and his exact words were none of >them were *great* at what they do , he never once said they >were poor musicians - that's on you! And to a certain degree, >he has enough of a point. People react to Radiohead in such >an extreme way, and I'm just trying to be objective to what I >see - so I was reacting to that too. And for the record I >like Radiohead a lot, I got respect for them for sure.
Fair enough! Although there's a special kind of musicality that it takes to arrange & perform the types of compositions Radiohead come up with. The most important aspect of musicianship is listening. A lot of "virtuosic" cats have a problem doing that. In that respect, they may have chops for days, but I consider them lesser musicians.
And also, I don't really see cats throwing that virtuoso label on Radiohead like that, save for Rolling Stone.
>>It tends to be the go to question for douchey musicians (not >>calling you one) to try to flaunt their self perceived >>superiority over other cats on this board, as if its the end >>all/be all for being able to talk music. >> >>Yes, it's relevant but what a lot of musicians that harp on >>chops & the like fail to understand is most artists aren't >>making music for musicians. I mean, would you rather >Paranoid >>Android sounded like a Victor Wooten record? :/ >> >> >> > >I see. Yea, definitely did not mean it like that, and chops >is definitely not at all what determines whether I like >something or not. I mean, I love hip hop so what does that >say?!
Hmmmm... Well hip hop's got its own definition of technical skill & "chops". The hip hop version of this argument has always been "Q-Tip is not a great MC" or something like that because he doesn't have a crazy tongue twisting vocal gymnastic style. I tend to defend him just like Radiohead in this case, as what he does suits the song PERFECTLY.
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