>i didn't say 'preemptive strike' even though it's arguably a>stronger "album" than 'psyence fiction.' I actually read private press as preemptive strike so yeah that was one. the other was>i don't really count>that as a group album even though it didn't bear the shadow>name.I mean yeah we know it but still technically won't make it.Oddly enough I think if you take e, ps & pp it paints a pretty clear electronic picture.________Big PEMFin H & z's█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am one thing, a musician." © Miles Davis"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."