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dalecooper
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14. "This has been going on a long time"
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Thu Apr-07-11 03:16 PM by dalecooper

  

          

TV and album covers and magazines ushered it in. Elvis for instance. Not that Elvis was bad musically, but what they were selling with Elvis was almost as much about his good looks and image as about his music. I don't think it was just the female audience that was dictating that approach. You may feel they were more responsible for it than men, but ultimately we all like looking at people that are attractive (even if not necessarily sexually attractive to us in particular) more so than people that are ugly; we all would rather feel like what we are listening to makes us cool than listen to the stodgy, boring, limp music of our parents (obviously I'm talking more about teenagers than adults, but teen listening habits tend to set tastes for a lifetime).

It may have increased over the years because of MTV, YouTube, the general increase in media exposure, etc. The culmination of trends in technology and pop culture mean that the image and looks side of an artist is much more present than ever before, and music acts almost like a soundtrack to that image rather than the way you want it to be, with the image just supporting the music or not mattering at all. But the overall thrust of my argument is this: it's not new, and its increasing importance was probably inevitable with the direction media and the surrounding tech went. I'd also argue that people are more honest about it now; before we were pretending it was all about the music when for 99% of people, it clearly wasn't. The honesty doesn't really bother me. It's just another way that we've become more transparent about our role as consumers (see also: people in The Lesson trumpeting sales figures rather than artistic merit).

On a side note, the extremely anti-female nature of this whole thread bugs me. It's really not the fucking apocalypse if men have feelings and shit.

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When did men start listening to artists because we liked them? [View all] , OldPro, Thu Apr-07-11 11:22 AM
 
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*grabs a front row seat*
Apr 07th 2011
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everything is all 'cult of personality' now
Apr 07th 2011
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Being likeable on tv or film can mean something though
Apr 07th 2011
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Apr 07th 2011
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*buys ad space in post*
Apr 07th 2011
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Context.
Apr 07th 2011
6
I Always Tell People To Seperate The Artist From Their Music
Apr 07th 2011
7
You getting warmer
Apr 07th 2011
9
we eye to eye OP
Apr 07th 2011
8
They've sold looks for a long time now
Apr 07th 2011
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RE: When did men start listening to artists because we liked them?
Apr 07th 2011
10
I'm sure you'd find many blues fans connected with the
Apr 07th 2011
12
Exactly.
Apr 07th 2011
13
Are you trying to pin this on rappers?
Apr 07th 2011
15
take it back further with Mj gloves and jackets
Apr 07th 2011
16
      For the record The Monkees were talented
Apr 08th 2011
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           "well at least two of them were" - Ha caught that.
Apr 09th 2011
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This post is needed.
Apr 07th 2011
17
well, look at sports, LA Dodgers fans......
Apr 07th 2011
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RE: This post is needed.
Apr 07th 2011
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      Oh shit! Look who the cat drug in!
Apr 07th 2011
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           RE: Oh shit! Look who the cat drug in!
Apr 08th 2011
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                tf? lol. Ain't this Mike?
Apr 08th 2011
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                     RE: tf? lol. Ain't this Mike?
Apr 08th 2011
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                          *daps*
Apr 08th 2011
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                               RE: *daps*
Apr 09th 2011
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it's a generational thing really...
Apr 07th 2011
19
that's what kills me about this "You're just Old" bullshit...
Apr 07th 2011
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I would somehow like to (again) blame Hip-Hop for it...
Apr 07th 2011
20
This right here was the worst.....
Apr 07th 2011
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TRUTH:
Apr 07th 2011
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my coworker rides hard *npi* for Whiz Khalifa and J Cole
Apr 08th 2011
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This isn't specific to Hip Hop
Apr 08th 2011
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      RE: This isn't specific to Hip Hop
Apr 08th 2011
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RE: When did men start listening to artists because we liked them?
Apr 07th 2011
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You're still mad at Odd Future?
Apr 07th 2011
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Where's Carly Simon when you need her lol
Apr 08th 2011
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      Still sexing Jon Forte' on the low -
Apr 08th 2011
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forever.
Apr 07th 2011
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this is basically some -old man yall kids stay off my lawn- shit
Apr 07th 2011
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Is this post amnesia or alzheimers?
Apr 07th 2011
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I equate it to...
Apr 07th 2011
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To me alot of it comes from mothers, alpha males and Tupac
Apr 07th 2011
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if you don't consider art as an extension of character,
Apr 07th 2011
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We've been getting conditioned to do so since at least 1959
Apr 07th 2011
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Not to be flip but,...
Apr 07th 2011
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When was this not the case?
Apr 08th 2011
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Agreed it's always existed - just more extreme now cause of technology
Apr 08th 2011
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      A lot of people are confusing style in music with style as music
Apr 08th 2011
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           But George and Rick didn't enjoy success
Apr 08th 2011
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                RE: But George and Rick didn't enjoy success
Apr 08th 2011
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                     You REALLY don't know this.
Apr 08th 2011
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                          We're actually talking about two different things here
Apr 08th 2011
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                               That's a false equivalency.
Apr 08th 2011
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                                    RE: That's a false equivalency.
Apr 08th 2011
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                                         'what the game is supposed to be about...'
Apr 08th 2011
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                                              We're getting dangerously close to a battle you and Warren fight
Apr 08th 2011
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                                                   it is true that image has always been here
Apr 08th 2011
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                                                        I'm about to be out & am short on time but let me clear something up
Apr 08th 2011
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that shit is more important than the music now
Apr 08th 2011
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I don't think it's a -new- thing
Apr 08th 2011
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It's a byproduct of increased artist accessibility.
Apr 08th 2011
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Twitter definitely plays a part.
Apr 09th 2011
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I can't separate the artist from his/her work
Apr 09th 2011
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RE: When did men start listening to artists because we liked them?
Apr 12th 2011
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This post is all kinds of wrong
Apr 12th 2011
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today people look for style over substance a lot
Apr 12th 2011
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