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26. "smh"
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>Disagreements over the creative direction of the show? Yes.
>

You mean "too much buffoonery" don't whitewash it.

>I never took those FAMOUS disagreements to mean they accused
>Lear of being just a plain racist, liar, hypocrite and thief.
>I took that that they had different ideas of where the show
>was going.
>



Rolle and Amos became openly critical – voicing their criticism in interviews with Ebony Magazine and TV Guide. Rolle’s comments about the JJ character in a 1975 Ebony article,

“He’s 18 and doesn’t work. He can’t read and write. He doesn’t think. The show didn’t start out to be that. Michael’s role of a bright, thinking child has been subtly reduced. Little by little – with the help of the artist – Jimmie Walker, I suppose they couldn’t do that to me – they have made him more stupid and enlarged the whole role. have been quietly slipped in on us through the character of the oldest child. I resent the imagery that says to black kids that you can make it by standing on the corner saying ‘Dy-no-mite!”


>I recall that Lear did place a working father into the show
>and did change scripts based on actor input - but ultimately
>had a different direction for the show than what some of the
>biggest stars on the show wanted.
>
>They fired Amos and leaned HEAVILY into JJ - which made the
>show much more like Happy Days. And then Ester Rolle left for
>two seasons and CAME BACK.
>

More like Happy Days lmao Esther Rolle left because of the buffoonery and the pay raise she didn't get.

>(It's not like What's Happening was leaning into hard social
>issues over and over.)
>

smh another deflection


>
>I didn't read "RACIST" in that I read "different" and even
>"wrong" but not racist. And never have a heard "lairs" and
>"thieves" from anyone other than Eric Monte.
>

You read excuses for racism not "different"

>Hey, you want to believe a Youtube video that's basically a
>transcript of Eric Monte saying that Norman Lear is lying
>thieving Jew who was destroyed his life because he was too
>black and talked too much - I don't see that from what I've
>heard.
>

Norman Lear could tell you everything Eric Monte said is true and you still would go out of your way to excuse it.

>BUT as LEGS points out: I'M WHITE.
>
>I'm firing myself from this thread now.
>
>
>

No surprise take your ball and run Forest run.

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Never knew the 1st Lionel Jefferson (Mike Evans) created Good Times [View all] , legsdiamond, Thu Jun-23-22 01:47 PM
 
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I remember watching something about that.
Jun 23rd 2022
1
yep little known fact
Jun 23rd 2022
2
Nope
Jun 23rd 2022
3
I didnt say anything about the white shows
Jun 24th 2022
12
Lear didn't steal anything
Jun 23rd 2022
4
What ?
Jun 23rd 2022
5
Lear is not credited as creator on either of these
Jun 23rd 2022
6
You missed a reply
Jun 24th 2022
9
      That link is weak
Jun 24th 2022
14
           Your reply is weak
Jun 24th 2022
16
                Norma Lear is a Jew and I am white
Jun 24th 2022
17
                     You really like Lear
Jun 24th 2022
18
                          he made MAUDE!!!!
Jun 24th 2022
19
                          lmao
Jun 24th 2022
20
                          Guess it's settled then.
Jun 26th 2022
21
                               Nah you will keep defending racism
Jun 26th 2022
22
                                    gotta love how they protect their own
Jun 27th 2022
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                                    They don't stop won't stop going all out to protect them
Jun 27th 2022
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                                    ..
Jun 27th 2022
25
                                        
SPLENDID times.
Jun 24th 2022
7
LOL
Jun 24th 2022
13
I laffed... n/m
Jun 24th 2022
15
The Edwards.
Jun 24th 2022
8
lol
Jun 24th 2022
10
lmao
Jun 24th 2022
11
indirectly
Jun 27th 2022
28
The Jeffersons were a spin off from All In The Family
Jun 27th 2022
27

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