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19. "I really thought he was clever about it"
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Sat Jun-04-22 06:07 AM by Nodima

  

          

But, for the sake of typing on the internet, here's all this:

The Black friends that insisted with all their heart I watch Che's first season have all been really, really lukewarm on the new season while I was still pretty into it. And pretty much as a chorus, it's been because they felt he was too sensitive about being canceled. I tried to point to how many of the actual skits (ie. pretty much all of them) are begging to be canceled, even from the very beginning with the timely abortion clinic bit, and how a lot of the comedy of the new season is building off this idea of being painfully unfunny to an SNL audience, but...


Then I also think about having similar conversations w/r/t the new Kendrick album and last Chappelle special specifically before he ruined my reaction to it with his own follow up jokes or whatever you'd like to call 'em...


Are we/me actually becoming less reliable because we/me have been conditioned to want Black entertainment to be dangerous? Does the danger feel less abstract sometimes because of Twitter and 24 hour news cycles?


I think the idea that comedy is being gutted by "cancel culture" is farcical because I'm laughing as much as I ever have at people being funny for pay, but I do get why these guys specifically feel a weight. (Sidebar: Even if you're a madman like Bill Burr, as long as you don't Louis C.K. your female friends I think it's harder to worry about white grievances while, as most comedy shows, playing to white audiences - this might also be really stupid).

I often leave the bar at night thinking back on my favorite jokes among friends and wondering how long it would've taken a stranger with a camera phone out to ruin my life if they felt it'd build their clout. And I'm just telling jokes to kill time between one shift and the next with people doing the same.


Anyway, went on a slight tangent, but...I was really struck by this conversation I had tonight with those dudes who essentially forced Damn Michael Che Season 1 on me, and loved it enough they not only watched it once on their own then once again with me then scattershot over the year at multiple little hangs when we needed background comedy...only for me to get to this new season right away, love it, and then hear a pretty mediocre response from the same guys as they slowly approached it.

Maybe that doesn't even have to do with the idea of cancellation, but my gut reaction has been that this is the first time in Black comedy where the comedians are addressing fear of their takes as much as or more than the takes themselves.

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I think every Black male entertainer hates cancel culture [View all] , legsdiamond, Thu Jun-02-22 01:20 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
I get that in some ways it limits expression on sensitive topics
Jun 02nd 2022
1
Any public figure whose job it is to be intersting/entertaining
Jun 02nd 2022
2
I see the bait that you are laying
Jun 02nd 2022
3
ha.. nah, just noticing lately there has been a push back
Jun 03rd 2022
11
     
           yeah.. I think its the fear of jokes today being judged 10 years later
Jun 06th 2022
25
           I've been wondering, do other people not have "inside jokes"?
Jun 06th 2022
26
who is atlanta? fuck i'm old.
Jun 02nd 2022
4
The Donald Glover (Childish Gambino) show. The OKP thread says...
Jun 02nd 2022
6
oh got it...thanks lol
Jun 03rd 2022
15
Lol, it’s on Hulu. Check it out
Jun 05th 2022
23
      dude said who is Atlanta.. lmao
Jun 06th 2022
24
it's an annoying thing to try to talk about
Jun 02nd 2022
5
Not Katt Williams.
Jun 02nd 2022
7
Cancel culture is code for loud and wrong
Jun 02nd 2022
8
RE: Consequence Culture
Jun 03rd 2022
9
That's what it really is.
Jun 07th 2022
31
After Marc Maron completely destroyed the notion of cancel culture
Jun 03rd 2022
10
who? lol
Jun 03rd 2022
12
No he didn't he only covered it from the perspective of successful ones
Jun 04th 2022
21
the demographic most likely to be demonized/punished for everything
Jun 03rd 2022
13
They should hate it because it's racist and inconsistent.
Jun 03rd 2022
14
yuuup
Jun 03rd 2022
18
#13 and #14 are on the money
Jun 03rd 2022
16
I mean sexual assault is sexual assault
Jun 03rd 2022
17
Black folks also hate the '94 crime bill and Stop & Frisk
Jun 04th 2022
20
Went to a bar back in the early 00s. It was hot, I had a tank top on...
Jun 06th 2022
29
      bouncer made me tuck in a sweater one time
Jun 06th 2022
30
Oh, you worried 'bout a critic? That ain't protocol.
Jun 05th 2022
22
Black Comedy has always been about being subversive and now there
Jun 06th 2022
27
I think I know what you are talking about
Jun 06th 2022
28
There are quite a few topics that are "subversive," though the thing is....
Jun 08th 2022
32
      I think we are the first generation to go this hard tho
Jun 08th 2022
33
           Yup we have a transcript now.
Jun 08th 2022
35
i saw a Martin Lawrence tik tok last night...
Jun 08th 2022
34
RE: they played a clip of his in the wake of #Slapgate
Jun 09th 2022
36
that's the EXACT clip i saw.
Jun 09th 2022
37
      RE: that's the EXACT clip i saw.
Jun 09th 2022
39
Def Comedy Jam does not hold up at ALL
Jun 09th 2022
38
i feel like most comedy doesn't age great
Jun 09th 2022
41
      its like watching NBA from the 80’s and being mad it isn’t in HD
Jun 09th 2022
42
I ALWAYS thought Martin was funnier acting in TV shows and
Jun 09th 2022
40
      his show for sure holds up
Jun 09th 2022
43
           I got them all recorded on YouTubetv
Jun 09th 2022
44

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