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4. "combination of incompetence, corruption, and rotating villain"
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>Manchin and Sinema are a menace to Biden and the Democrats
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Meh...I mean, fuck these two. But if you follow closely, its not just these two and it is starting to seem like they are playing the villain role in their very safe seats.

Lobbyists are in overdrive, too.


Either way, this is a colossal fuck up in every single way. The GOP couldn't write a better script on how to come back than what has happened the last 3-4 months.


Whatever bill the corporate dems end up agreeing to (half-off little ceasers? means tested of course)....why in the fuck did they not lock it down months ago? In a more private fashion?


How does the party (leadership, Biden, whoever) mange to have no influence or power over the corporate Dems?


Why hasn't someone been out selling this thing? This is where the gaff combo of Joe and Kamala are holding things back. They are both in hiding. But no one else could go out and sell this thing to people?

FDR sold his programs. Who is selling these?


How did they not have a priority list and/or a plan b?


How are they so fucking awful at controlling the story? This thing has been chopped apart piece by piece day by day in front of us all.

How have they managed to let "3 trillion over 10 years" sound scarier than 10 for the military? How?


Why did they wait months for this?

Biden had the juice for a few months...beginning at Afghanistan (sure looks like people cared) his approval has been in the tank. He has no leverage.

Why didn't they start this thing right away?


The fucks ups go way back.

Really?? Sinema? Do they not vet people at all?

NC? Maine? How?


Biden made pretty explicit promises...especially that impact younger voters. He's about to break those promises. This is how young voters give up.


Between this means-tested, scaled back, all-too-public shit show....and nothing on voting rights, abortion, court reform, etc...and no real movement on holding Trump admin accountable.... these consultant-baked dweebs are about to get curb stomped.

They learned NOTHING from 2010. Nothing.

To the average American who doesn't pay attention to cabinet appointments and other nuances in American politics....not much has changed for them other than higher prices and supply chain issues.

Even the child tax credit is about to be a wake up call for some next April.

And ONCE AGAIN the party completely takes BLACK VOTERS for granted.


The thing is...all of the above could be explained with incompetence, but it could also be explained by corruption.

They are always *just short* of delivering help to those who actually need it, but those darn Moderates keep messing things up.

"Dems don't have the votes!"

How is that always the case when they are in power? How are they ALWAYS 1 or 2 votes shy of actually accomplishing shit?


In 2009 they had SIXTY vote SUPER majority and delivered....a Republican-written healthcare bill. Oh, and a weak, pared down stimulus. Thats it.

Not even a public option because Manchin...errr I mean, Leiberman. Always that one villain, aint that a bitch.


They didn't hold W admin accountable. No bankers went to jail. Nothing. They delivered a weak stimulus and a complicated GOP-written healthcare bill that was careful to not actually hurt the profits of the healthcare system.


History is repeating in front of our eyes.


And we will be told to "vote" asked to donate money, time, etc.


Red wave in '22 and President Trump/Cotton/Haley whoever in '24. And guess what? They will definitely nuke the filibuster to pass their agenda.

The party that is pro-coup isn't pro-filibuster. FOH


Its hard not to look at it all and not wonder if Dems really are in on the scam.




  

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So what is left in the "human infrastructure" spending bill? [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Oct-27-21 06:16 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
If the public likes what they get, they can make sure they vote Dem...
Oct 27th 2021
1
legislative version of The Human Fund
Oct 27th 2021
2
Hopefully they keep expanded CTC, universal preschool, some climate stuf...
Oct 27th 2021
3
In 2009 the death of Ted Kennedy literally killed the the more ambitious...
Oct 27th 2021
5
they are evil but compensated scapegoats for the Dem's agenda
Oct 27th 2021
6
I have to put out there (and I'm not going to debate it) but
Oct 28th 2021
7
Political affiliation is just a word.
Oct 28th 2021
11
power? They are stopping Dems from passing bills
Oct 28th 2021
26
Whittled down to a 1.5T down bill. LOL.
Oct 28th 2021
8
Over promise, massively under deliver
Oct 28th 2021
9
      I think it was more of the mistake of negotiating in public.
Oct 28th 2021
21
           Bidn rann on the 3.5+ trillion bill
Oct 28th 2021
23
                It’s more like $3T to $3.2T but I agree and said as much below
Oct 28th 2021
25
Sinema has recieved $500,000+ from Big Pharma.
Oct 28th 2021
10
I blame every last one of you who voted for the lesser evil
Oct 28th 2021
12
We need a viable 3rd party tho.
Oct 28th 2021
13
^
Oct 28th 2021
17
I voted for Biden, not Sinema and Manchin.
Oct 28th 2021
28
+1 to this and
Oct 29th 2021
33
pretty much
Oct 29th 2021
43
I was JUST thinking about this.
Oct 28th 2021
14
A LOT is still in - and NO REPUB would ever have done it
Oct 28th 2021
15
im just hoping they pass it soon
Oct 28th 2021
18
The only thing in there that resonates is subsidized childcare and Pre-K
Oct 28th 2021
22
I agree with all this. People act like the GQP would pass something like...
Oct 28th 2021
24
Exactly. Read the details for yourselves
Oct 29th 2021
30
the democrats sell pipe dreams to grab power
Oct 28th 2021
16
Negotiated with themselves…and still Lost
Oct 28th 2021
19
50 REPUBLICANS against. 48 DEMS pushing for EVERYTHING
Oct 28th 2021
20
i dont think anyone is saying nothing is better than something
Oct 28th 2021
27
      Big Head Bin is saying exactly that in #12.
Oct 28th 2021
29
           3rd party guy?
Oct 29th 2021
38
literally every time the dems get power from Clinton, onward
Oct 29th 2021
37
i see how dictators rise to power in democracies now.
Oct 29th 2021
31
Our democracy is looking brittle as hell.
Oct 29th 2021
32
and both sides are letting radicals into the game
Oct 29th 2021
34
      ^^Watch this troll account
Oct 29th 2021
35
      i noticed that too.
Oct 29th 2021
36
      Denny back
Oct 29th 2021
39
           ahhh.
Oct 29th 2021
41
           yup
Oct 29th 2021
42
           ohhhh shit nm
Nov 07th 2021
56
      ...
Oct 29th 2021
44
           Here is where the lie is.
Oct 29th 2021
45
                RE: Here is where the lie is.
Oct 29th 2021
46
                     lmao
Nov 07th 2021
58
                          it wasn't a coup it was a riot
Nov 08th 2021
70
                               Don't try to whitewash it, alt right.
Nov 08th 2021
71
                                    i guess your link solves everything right?
Nov 08th 2021
76
                                         and let's not pretend
Nov 09th 2021
78
                                         Lmao No your counter argument solves everything.
Nov 09th 2021
80
                                              it wasn't a coup
Nov 10th 2021
81
                                                   That's right it was not a coup. It was a Patriot Purge
Nov 10th 2021
82
                                                        it was a riot
Nov 10th 2021
83
                                                             Colin Powell, troll.
Dec 20th 2021
98
      "both sides" lolololol
Oct 29th 2021
40
      HORSESHOE THEORY!!!
Nov 09th 2021
77
jill stein would never
Oct 29th 2021
47
RE: jill stein would never get elected
Nov 07th 2021
54
"Nobody elected him (Biden) to be FDR"
Nov 04th 2021
48
^^That person is FULL OF SHIT
Nov 04th 2021
49
Yep.
Nov 05th 2021
51
yeah i mean democrats elected him to govern as a democrat.
Nov 05th 2021
50
Another example of why some Dems are dumb as fuck.
Nov 08th 2021
64
So what do we think about the bill?
Nov 06th 2021
52
Are free laptops still included in the bill?
Nov 06th 2021
53
the squad voted against the 'real' infrastructure bill (bif).
Nov 07th 2021
55
lol
Nov 07th 2021
57
ever heard of eric cantor?
Nov 07th 2021
62
      god i hated that twerp, but yeah that was crazy
Nov 08th 2021
69
      His own people the Tea Party helped get him out, right ?
Nov 08th 2021
72
Or the flip side
Nov 07th 2021
59
^^This is the right answer
Nov 07th 2021
60
good luck explaining to your voters why you voted with 200 republicans
Nov 07th 2021
61
      Explaining it to you
Nov 08th 2021
65
      So it was.....a "performative" vote?
Nov 08th 2021
66
           Motherfucker - I expained it
Nov 08th 2021
67
                You said "If they had to vote YES or the bill fails....
Nov 08th 2021
68
                     Pelosi could have held the bill
Nov 08th 2021
73
                     Yes. Consistent.
Nov 08th 2021
75
      Do you really believe this stuff? Or is it devils advocate or some shit
Nov 08th 2021
74
Homepiss, you're such a centrist little snob...
Nov 08th 2021
63
I think Reeq is actually Van Jones
Nov 09th 2021
79
Manchin's likely OUT of BBB now because of the INFLATION report
Nov 10th 2021
84
      Billionaire tax dead too. Dems are worthless
Nov 11th 2021
85
           Dems are in on the scam
Nov 19th 2021
89
Build Back Better bill passed the house
Nov 19th 2021
86
And it includes a $285 million dollar tax cut for the rich
Nov 19th 2021
87
      Yeah that's tone deaf...
Nov 19th 2021
88
Nah (c) Manchin
Dec 20th 2021
90
RUMORS
Dec 20th 2021
91
buying drugs instead of providing for kids is a West Virginian pasttime
Dec 20th 2021
92
      it's the same argument used for welfare
Dec 20th 2021
93
      smh.. sadly this is true af
Dec 20th 2021
94
      there were $11 billion dollars for the drug epidemic in the bill
Dec 20th 2021
95
      Nope. Absolutely untrue
Dec 20th 2021
96
      Can you link a source?
Dec 20th 2021
99
           Yes!
Dec 20th 2021
101
                Appreciate it, thanks!
Dec 20th 2021
102
      I was about to post the same thing, he is probably right in his experien...
Dec 20th 2021
97
I do like how the WH called him out…
Dec 20th 2021
100
It kinda seems like they've completely given up on this
Jan 14th 2022
103
i wonder if there are any parts that would pass on their own
Jan 14th 2022
104
      bunny rabbits and ice cream?? fog didn't lift yet?
Jan 14th 2022
105
Manchin: It's dead
Feb 01st 2022
106
I wish Manchin were dead.
Feb 01st 2022
107

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