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Bambino Grande
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Tue Oct-12-21 09:34 AM

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"Why do you feel feminist users have shifted towards Twitter"


          


.... in search of a receptive and safe space? Additionally, do you feel structural changes to the OKP boards could bring them back?

(*dunno if this has been posted here b4, in that case - delete*)

http://www.feministonlinespaces.com/2019/04/online-ethnography-of-the-okayplayer-message-boards-by-tc/


online ethnography of the Okayplayer message boards by TC

In completing my online ethnography of the Okayplayer message boards I sought to answer two research questions which came from my earlier interaction with users on the site:

Why do you (the OKP user) feel feminist users have shifted towards Twitter in search of a receptive and safe space? Additionally, do you feel structural changes to the OKP boards could bring them back?

My work on the site was complicated, following the activity of my earlier post, by my ‘throwaway’ account’s deletion and account suspension. I received no email informing me of a moderation decision or notification of any violation of the site’s rules based on the content of my post, and can only assume that the post was either reported by another user or removed because I had disclosed that my poll was a component of a larger academic review of the site. In continuing my work I was required to use my personal account, which I primarily use to browse for music news and is not regularly used to participate in discussion, to probe at the margins of my research questions without revealing my motivations or findings.

In attempting to answer my questions I spent hours on the OKP boards, which are broken down into ‘OKP News Discussion’, ‘the lesson: In-depth music discussion’, ‘general discussion’, ‘Okay sports’, organix: life, style, art, food, health, travel’, ‘pass the popcorn’ (reviews), ‘make the music’ (music production), and ‘high tech’ (tech topics). I mainly spent time in the general discussion forum, which is both the most active and has the widest range of discussion topics. In participating under my personal account I attempting to engage users in conversation around social or political topics in which feminist perspectives are at the forefront, mostly the policy positions of prospective or actively campaigning candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination, a thread about overlooked news stories, multiple threads discussing various personal relationship situations of various users, some scattered music threads, and some other miscellaneous threads.

The consensus from users still active on the site seems to be that the boards started as a diverse group of alternative music and hip-hop fans who wanted to interact with fans outside of the filter of the music industry and the same recycled industry talking points, while engaging in conversation on political and social topics. Throughout the early 2000s the boards featured a range of feminist perspectives and vocal users; however the rise of twitter and instagram in the early 2010s drained many of these users. The users that remain are predominantly straight and cis male, and that instances of overt misogyny and bigotry go frequently unchecked within the comment threads. Multiple users who identified themselves as feminists of color overtly stated that the OKP boards are not a safe space, that the claims of feminist ‘lurking’ ring true in their opinion, and that trolls are just as prevalent on the OKP boards as elsewhere on the internet.


Users feel that there is little potential for change within the OKP boards, and that the structure of the boards themselves makes such a change impossible. This seems to be true especially on the OKP boards but also in traditional message boards more generally. As posts are linked by subtopic and responses are listed chronologically, there is very little back and forth conversation and more sweeping generalization than is found on more immediate platforms like twitter. This difference in velocity seems to impact bot the content and tone of messages, as users are relatively confident that their view will go unchallenged or will simply be brushed off. Additionally, there is no voting mechanism for replies and threads like the upvote/downvote structure on Reddit. As such, there is no means for disapproving of a post without replying to it directly, meaning that the only means for countering racism, misogyny, or trolling is through direct address which can be uncomfortable or counterproductive. It was also indicated to me by multiple users that, like me, found some of the moderation policies to be opaque and arbitrary. Lastly, the same 10-15 accounts are frequently found in most, if not all threads, drowning out voices with less activity and post frequency, both of which are indicated under user account names in the forum. This seems to establish unwritten rules of authority which ranked some voices over others with less history of participation.

To conclude, while there is a large, progressive population of OKP users who are receptive to feminists of color, the site at large, through its structure, moderation, and a few trolling users, is unsafe for feminists of color. While the okayplayer site succeeds in its aim to elevate the music blog beyond a digital industry billboard, it fails as an inclusive space for feminists of color.


  

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Why do you feel feminist users have shifted towards Twitter [View all] , Bambino Grande, Tue Oct-12-21 09:34 AM
 
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I think this board isnt very woman friendly
Oct 12th 2021
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hi. I'm an actual woman. IT IS THE SAME.
Oct 12th 2021
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      not challenging your voice, earnestly asking: how do you define "unsafe"
Oct 12th 2021
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      You’re a woman? I didn’t know that.
Oct 12th 2021
9
I think I remember a post the author made in GD to gather input:
Oct 12th 2021
2
This reminds me of the type of new "hip hop heads" that STUDY hip hop
Oct 12th 2021
3
and she pretty much plagiarized Afro Girl's post #40...smh...
Oct 12th 2021
4
Well, it was a qualitative research project. Plagiarism is a stretch.
Oct 12th 2021
5
the users who people actually want to interact with
Oct 12th 2021
8
Because this is the compelling content people want to interact with?
Oct 12th 2021
10
      RE: Because this is the compelling content people want to interact with?
Oct 12th 2021
11
      breh…lol
Oct 12th 2021
12
      that clip has 45,000 views on reddit, so yes, the evidence is clear that...
Oct 12th 2021
13
      reddit isn't a real place
Oct 12th 2021
25
           I generally avoid it
Oct 13th 2021
30
      good to know you're watching my boy
Oct 12th 2021
14
           Right. There would be more women on OKP if there were more RJCCs
Oct 12th 2021
15
                like the woman streaming on Twitch who I was playing with in that clip
Oct 12th 2021
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                Tell us more grown ass man about how you have the girl friends
Oct 12th 2021
24
                     I understand man. You thought that everyone's life was like yours
Oct 12th 2021
27
                That's the old RJCC. He's given his life to Chr!st since then.
Oct 12th 2021
17
                     Side note: I'm so glad to find out his name is NOT Reggie.
Oct 12th 2021
18
                     building block made it up when he was giving out nicknames
Oct 12th 2021
20
                     when me, zora and everyone else in that thread are cool
Oct 12th 2021
19
                          They saw the work He did in your life...
Oct 12th 2021
22
Serious answer.
Oct 12th 2021
21
this is mostly not the case
Oct 12th 2021
26
      The guys left because the girls left.
Oct 12th 2021
28
           Nah
Oct 12th 2021
29
natural evolution of tech/communication and ability to curate
Oct 12th 2021
23
Yup. Message boards in general took a hit
Oct 13th 2021
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