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>Doggystyle + his work on The Chronic, and Murder Was the
>Case. Obviously Doggfather was a step down but it was
>decent.
>
>Most rappers batting averages go down significantly if they
>keep releasing albums for decades: KRS, LL, those last two
>Rakim albums, Cube, PE, etc.
>
>Only 80s/90s rapper who really maintained that batting average
>for his whole career that I can think of is Scarface.
>
>Frankly, I don’t even consider LL, Rakim, KRS’s late
>career stuff when considering their GOAT status. To me once
>you reach a certain point in your career, everything that
>comes after is treated like bonus points that can only help
>your grade but not hurt it.

I think Snoop was more hit than miss up til like 2006ish, after which I think he started coasting. But I think you're right that he was at his absolute strongest in the years just before he signed to No Limit, which would've been about 97/98 as you partly noted. Can't forget to include Smokefest '96 which was released during that brief free agency period after he left Death Row but before he signed with NL. That album was 100% heaters. I have my copy somewhere.

But anyway, after the clunker that was Da Game is to be Sold ... or whatever the fuck that mess was called, he dropped Top Dogg, Paid Da Cost, R&G, then Blue Carpet, all of which were good-to-great albums.

Ego Trippin' had it's moments but that's the album when I feel like he started coasting a bit, taking some risks only he and a few others could take based on status, and dropping albums that had a small handful of bangers but were mostly filler. And as you noted, I think he had and continues to have every right to do that considering what he gave us prior to that, and that he now only gets credit, doesn't get dinged.
i.e. the aforementioned Ego Trippin' had "Press Play" and "Those Gurlz" and a couple others, which are absolute all time Snoop songs, surrounded by mostly forgettable songs that do nothing to hurt his reputation. But those songs absolutely get added to his collection of career bangers.

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Snoop should be in everybody's top 5 [View all] , 81 DUN, Mon Jul-05-21 01:43 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
One of the main symptoms of the Delta Covid variant
Jul 05th 2021
1
Scared to put your list. Cuz I will match them song for song with Snoop
Jul 05th 2021
2
I never really liked that song but...
Jul 05th 2021
3
Q-Tip >> Snoop
Jul 05th 2021
4
I don't disagree. Snoop still top 5 tho
Jul 05th 2021
8
The Last Meal was the first full snoop Album I listened to
Jul 05th 2021
5
He’s in mine
Jul 05th 2021
6
i love snoop but that link is more proof that he peaked with doggystyle
Jul 05th 2021
7
I haven't fully listened to Doggystyle in decades.
Jul 05th 2021
9
      holds up incredibly imo
Jul 05th 2021
10
Top 5 for guest verses or collabs....maybe
Jul 05th 2021
11
I'd just like to say his BUSH album was a lot of fun.
Jul 05th 2021
12
RE: I'd just like to say his BUSH album was a lot of fun.
Jul 06th 2021
13
yes
Jul 06th 2021
20
Yes, very much so. I'll go as far to say it's his best post-DS album
Jul 06th 2021
27
Entirely untrue. All subjective of course, but - not true. lol
Jul 07th 2021
42
agreed, I played the hell out of Bush and Tuxedo that year
Jul 06th 2021
31
FIXED IT: Snoop should be in everybody's top 500
Jul 06th 2021
14
Snoop gave us a Snoop & Dam Funk album. Nas gave us Nas & Hitboy
Jul 06th 2021
26
Nas also gave us Nas and Damien Marley
Jul 06th 2021
32
      I'm talkin bout producers colabs.
Jul 06th 2021
35
           Damian Marley produced that album
Jul 06th 2021
38
there's no way anyone can put him lower than 20-30
Jul 06th 2021
29
      Do you know how many great MC's there have been all time??
Jul 06th 2021
34
           Nas Hitboy the album
Jul 06th 2021
37
I would put Snoop in my Top 15 just on catalog alone...
Jul 06th 2021
15
torn deltoid
Jul 06th 2021
16
he is a personal favorite
Jul 06th 2021
17
i see some over the top snoop disrespect in here
Jul 06th 2021
18
Seriously, how many people who debuted in the early 90s
Jul 06th 2021
22
Its more a response to the original posts over the top-ness
Jul 06th 2021
30
      this is not accurate
Jul 07th 2021
40
           yeah.. Nas can spit but Snoop got him in the hits dept.
Jul 07th 2021
41
                No fucking question.
Jul 07th 2021
43
RE: Snoop should be in everybody's top 5
Jul 06th 2021
19
Well said, great points all around.
Jul 06th 2021
21
i saw him play with the roots 7 or 8 years ago
Jul 06th 2021
23
Saw him last year and it was a party
Jul 06th 2021
33
Last time I saw him he brought DPG, Warren G, and Lady of Rage w/him.
Jul 07th 2021
44
Chuurch (c)
Jul 13th 2021
47
Snoop is like...not in the conversation, but also, very important
Jul 06th 2021
24
While I don’t agree
Jul 06th 2021
25
I think he has one of the best solo catalogues in HipHop
Jul 06th 2021
28
Snoop can get in the cypher too. Remember Lyricist Lounge show?
Jul 06th 2021
36
Yeah i love that clip
Jul 06th 2021
39
lmaoooooooooooooo no. Snoop is dope, but top 5??? no.
Jul 13th 2021
45
he's the most popular rapper of all time. everybody knows him
Jul 13th 2021
46
Why is it acceptable to put Notorious BIG in a top 5
Jul 13th 2021
48
Because of batting average.
Jul 14th 2021
50
      I wonder what quality later BIG albums would be if he lived...
Jul 14th 2021
51
      Snoop’s work up to ‘97 is comparable
Jul 14th 2021
53
      RE: Snoop’s work up to ‘97 is comparable
Jul 14th 2021
55
      good additions
Jul 14th 2021
56
           Q-Tip, Posdnuos. Dave too...
Jul 14th 2021
57
     
           Yeah I went ‘97 because of the Biggie discussion above
Jul 14th 2021
60
                Oh right my bad.
Jul 14th 2021
61
      RE: Because of batting average.
Jul 15th 2021
64
This thread is still in existence?
Jul 14th 2021
49
He's the Rolling Stones of Hip Hip like it or not
Jul 14th 2021
52
Snoop bigger than any ranking you can ascribe him
Jul 14th 2021
54
LOL well said.
Jul 14th 2021
59
Here is a list of post Doggystyle Jams
Jul 15th 2021
62
The whole 'Bush' album is almost perfect
Jul 15th 2021
63
      I agree.
Jul 15th 2021
65
      it's very good
Jul 15th 2021
66
      you're aaaa-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....
Jul 15th 2021
67
Does he get a pass for making use of ghost writers every now and then?
Jul 19th 2021
68

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