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Nodima
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63. "everywhere"
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Fri Jul-16-21 01:04 AM by Nodima

  

          

Like, in some ways it's a pretty cynical move from Marvel. They're looking at all the re-cast superheroes and villains across time (I actually think Toby Maguire as Spider-Man is still the lock on the door even if Spider-Verse proved to be the key) and realizing that they've built the sort of beast that, even if it falters from it's phase 3 height, is basically an impenetrable fortress at this point. Marvel doesn't need to tell a decade-long story anymore (though it will) and it doesn't need central characters anymore (though it will have them), instead it has the constumes and the action and the "who knows who and who is where" question looming over everything now. They can tell just about any story they want and put any sort of actor in those suits, just like in the comics, but for now they've managed to maintain that everything is related to the core story they'd been telling for 15 years now.


The ending of this Loki series gives them an out for everything, from Steve and Tony dying to having to remember how they wrapped up the Hulk storyline or where they left Wanda in that cabin. Thanos can even come back as the villain for a movie if Brolin is available and they get desperate for a compelling performance. Everything is on the table now and anecdotally it seems like one 20 minute performance, essentially entirely table setting and monologue, from Jonathan Majors sold it to all but the most casual surface level MCU watcher.


From a corporate stance you could call it safe, I guess, but from a storytelling stance Marvel is really asking theater audiences to fully give themselves over to the machine in a way that really only comic book and maybe video game people are used to. And the consensus seems to be that the answer to that ask is "yes please!"


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Anyone watching Loki? [View all] , legsdiamond, Thu Jun-10-21 11:50 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
first episode preludes everything so nicely
Jun 10th 2021
1
when he opened the drawer and saw all those stones.. lmao
Jun 10th 2021
2
!!
Jun 10th 2021
3
this is what heaven is really like
Jun 10th 2021
7
his face was so defeated
Jun 10th 2021
4
Hell yeah...
Jun 10th 2021
5
I’m all in.
Jun 10th 2021
6
My question is... were they referencing Mephisto in that Chapel???
Jun 11th 2021
8
I thought so BUT.....
Jun 11th 2021
9
      or possibly Kang?
Jun 11th 2021
10
           They've already cast Kang for the films
Jun 11th 2021
11
                Kang is Johnathan Majors from Lovecraft Country
Jun 11th 2021
12
                I was kinda hyped about that. I like dude's acting style
Jun 11th 2021
14
                yeah I heard. I was wondering if they were beginning to set it up
Jun 11th 2021
13
                     I doubt they actually show him in the series
Jun 11th 2021
15
                          or his wife being in the show already
Jun 11th 2021
16
                          On another note, did they really show Chronopolis in Ant Man & The Wasp?
Jun 15th 2021
20
I haven't like a show this much in a minute.
Jun 12th 2021
17
Pretty strong opener. Love to see how this will tie in to future movies
Jun 15th 2021
18
thats the kind of first episode i hoped for from a marvel show
Jun 15th 2021
19
Count me in!
Jun 15th 2021
21
I'm not sure why Loki is a criminal
Jun 23rd 2021
22
you might have a point
Jun 24th 2021
23
It’s a light show but they’re tapping into free will
Jun 24th 2021
24
I’m all types of confused. Isnt the Loki the TVA captures
Jun 25th 2021
25
But that ain’t no time crime
Jun 25th 2021
26
      I’m not even going to attempt to act like I know all of this
Jun 25th 2021
29
      He is supposed to go back to Asgard
Jun 30th 2021
31
Doesn't matter... the one true timeline must be protected
Jun 25th 2021
27
I think that's the point...
Jun 25th 2021
28
      yup
Jun 25th 2021
30
So...the castle. Any thoughts on who they'll meet in there?
Jul 12th 2021
32
i think the context kind of hints at it
Jul 12th 2021
33
All signs point to....
Jul 12th 2021
34
my coworker predicted Dr Doom
Jul 12th 2021
35
and with the Fantastic Four coming to the MCU in 2023
Jul 12th 2021
36
The rumor was they'd be introducing him in a Black Panther flick
Jul 12th 2021
40
I'd lose my mind
Jul 12th 2021
37
he thinks its too big of a reveal for Loki
Jul 12th 2021
38
they not dropping Dr Doom in some D+ filler shit lol
Jul 12th 2021
41
I'm hoping for Immortus
Jul 12th 2021
39
another loki i bet
Jul 12th 2021
42
Either 'He Who Remains'
Jul 12th 2021
43
      RE: Either 'He Who Remains'
Jul 13th 2021
44
      another Loki variant would be wack af
Jul 13th 2021
45
      It would, but it would also be in keeping with the theme of the story
Jul 13th 2021
47
           I agree with you but with one wrinkle
Jul 13th 2021
48
           man.. I want them to push these shows past the same old formula
Jul 13th 2021
49
                They hit it put the park with this one
Jul 15th 2021
54
                     He should be pretty cool for movie fans
Jul 15th 2021
61
      Good job!!!
Jul 15th 2021
55
My favorite of the marvel shows so far
Jul 13th 2021
46
Hot damn
Jul 14th 2021
50
Wow they wasted no time!
Jul 14th 2021
51
Ok that casting was 10x better than I thought
Jul 15th 2021
52
Yeah he was killing it
Jul 15th 2021
53
i was sold on him after the last black man in san francisco
Jul 15th 2021
56
Yeah a lot of folks have told me to watch that today
Jul 15th 2021
57
      that movie was way too long
Jul 15th 2021
59
will just be cool when he is the destroyer and savior at the same time
Jul 15th 2021
58
My god he killed it!
Jul 16th 2021
66
They put their drawers into this series. I'm so hyped now lol
Jul 15th 2021
60
i'm confused..where is 'there'?
Jul 16th 2021
62
     
           Well said.
Jul 16th 2021
65
           Yessuh. You said it all.
Jul 16th 2021
67
           ^^All of this an more^^
Jul 16th 2021
68
           excellent. i appreciate your explanation
Jul 16th 2021
70
best marvel series by far
Jul 16th 2021
64
Bravo...
Jul 16th 2021
69
I loved it
Jul 19th 2021
71

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