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Walleye
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12. "I know what I mean when I say it"
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It's aspirational. Empires are bad. Impersonal steamrollers that flatten everything good and interesting about people in the service of production and acquisitiveness. America being over would be lift a tremendous burden we've put on the rest of humanity and maybe offer an opportunity to make the world into something different, better.

As far as your very well-structured categories, that makes it a mix of #1 and #2. This American Empire was born out of two lies: free land, which was actually stolen from Native Americans; and free labor, which was actually stolen from Black people. Those lies didn't just make America. They continue to re-make it every day by establishing a mutually buttressing relationship between that made-up history and our self-image.

But there's got to be an "after" right? I mean, even if you're right that the sentiment is an exaggeration, it is literally the case that nothing lasts forever. Rome was eternal once too. So while history probably doesn't provide the best guess for what post-America is going to look like, it does provide *a* guess - and the simplest one is balkanization.

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Help me understand this overused & exaggerated statement [View all] , double negative, Wed Nov-18-20 12:05 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
It's a white dog whistle.
Nov 18th 2020
1
depends on whose saying it.
Nov 18th 2020
2
I read it as baseless fearmongering.
Nov 18th 2020
3
people are full of unnecessary panic and fear
Nov 18th 2020
4
it means the america we grew up and were sold in is dead
Nov 18th 2020
5
It means nothing.
Nov 18th 2020
6
It means someone Black won
Nov 18th 2020
9
white america
Nov 18th 2020
7
Really? It’s typical white folks crying
Nov 18th 2020
8
People use it regarding Trump
Nov 18th 2020
10
FOH. Trump isn’t some normal fucking candidate
Nov 18th 2020
13
with Obama it was "I want my country back"
Nov 18th 2020
11
      Had white women online reminiscing about the 1950’s
Nov 18th 2020
14
           100% of these Hillary voters here are Trumpers now
Nov 18th 2020
16
See USA pluto return
Nov 18th 2020
15
I think the end of America is coming soon
Nov 18th 2020
17

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