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103. "Yea I'm with that - we essentially need to destroy capitalism, and rebui..."
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Sat Aug-29-20 10:17 PM by Brew

          

If that's what you're saying I agree with you wholeheartedly.

My only point was that in the short term, I have some level of empathy for folks who put their entire lives into small businesses, who may have lost their businesses over the course of the last few months in the protests, and who will ultimately get fucked by the insurance industry and be left with nothing as well.

Again I want to be clear, my empathy referenced above is in a vacuum - I support the protests a trillion percent. The loss of property means less than nothing to me relative to how passionate I am about the human suffering that results from systemic racism and police brutality.

But being that I care about human suffering, that compassion also extends, on some level, to folks who are losing their entire livelihoods through no fault of their own and who will ultimately end up getting fucked by the insurance industry as well.

All that said, your point is well taken that if you play in the sandbox, you get sand on you. But we're all forced to play that game. So again I'm just saying I save some sympathy for those who are otherwise good people who will end up losing everything in the course of all of this.

But if that's what it takes to dismantle the system, I'm with you. I guess we're all gonna have to experience a lot of discomfort in the process.


>>... is that (a) insurance companies will find some
>excuse(s)
>>to deny claims, and/or will run out of money and literally
>be
>>unable to pay (the smaller ones, obviously not the national
>>behemoths).
>
>>Then you're at the mercy of the state as a businessowner as
>>far as accessing/getting any kind of money. Which is never
>>guaranteed.
>
>greedy capitalism is a dirty game and when you play in the
>sandbox, you will eventually get sand on you.
>
>This is why the entire system needs to be dismantled. The
>insurance industry is completely corrupt. It is not designed
>to do what those of us who purchase it expect it to do. It's
>designed for one purpose: to not pay claims and for the
>company owners to enrich themselves.
>
>Therefore, the eventual outcome is always that we will not be
>made whole from insurance. i pay for car insurance because
>its required in order for me to own a car. I know for a fact
>that that will never work out in my favor. Cuz if i have an
>accident or any loss, my insurance payments will increase as a
>result.
>
>And who are the people likely the pay the most insurance
>premiums (hint: car insurance premiums are paritally based on
>your zipcode and your credit score)? Black people.
>
>>I want to be clear that I'm only offering some context to
>the
>>situations that many small businessowners may find
>themselves
>>trying to navigate, depending on which state they
>>reside/operate in, etc. I am 100% on the side of protesters
>>fucking burning it all down in response to these ongoing
>>racist atrocities.
>
>I totally get where you're coming from...that's why i took the
>time to write what i wrote just now...
>
>but we are all connected in this system, cuz even amongst
>"small business owners", they don't have equal access to the
>tools & mechanisms to stay in business, because systemic
>racism. So even their interests aren't always converging.
>white business owners can get access to lines of credit and
>other loan instruments that Black ones rarely do (see: the
>recent debacle with Paycheck Protection Program loans)
>
>again, the whole system has to fall and be rebuilt from a
>place of equity. people selfishly holding on to what they
>think is theirs won't help.
>
>d
>

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Are these “riots” going to cost us the election? [View all] , legsdiamond, Fri Aug-28-20 08:16 AM
 
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that's the plan I'm sure.......
Aug 28th 2020
1
agreed
Aug 28th 2020
11
Trump has a pretty-good excuse for why this isn't his fault...
Aug 28th 2020
2
Especially the cities.
Aug 29th 2020
98
1. The police are the rioters
Aug 28th 2020
3
I've been saying this a lot the last few weeks.
Aug 28th 2020
15
sometimes there are business owners who... own that property
Aug 28th 2020
28
      that's what insurance is for.
Aug 28th 2020
41
      This sentiment builds coalitions
Aug 28th 2020
58
      i said what i said.
Aug 28th 2020
69
      I agree with you. My only fear, from experience in the insurance industr...
Aug 28th 2020
71
      i don't fear that because its capitalism
Aug 29th 2020
94
          
                absolutely. everyone will lose something..there's no escaping that
Aug 30th 2020
104
                     No question. Agree with every word.
Aug 30th 2020
109
      insurance doesn't cover businesses that are uninsured
Sep 03rd 2020
169
      Race check. How many black grandparents you got.
Aug 28th 2020
63
           What ?
Aug 28th 2020
83
                You ain’t know
Sep 08th 2020
205
It's the only thing keeping Trump alive at the moment
Aug 28th 2020
4
it gives media an issue to push the horserace they been starving for.
Aug 28th 2020
5
The lack of a second stimulus should be the real story right now
Aug 28th 2020
7
      as well as the destruction of the post office during a pandemic.
Aug 28th 2020
9
           People don't get off the couch to vote for the post office
Aug 28th 2020
10
                people have never had the post office intentionally sabotaged
Aug 28th 2020
17
Who knows - swing states are filled with mindless gooberts
Aug 28th 2020
6
Yeah... the more destruction and chaos they see
Aug 28th 2020
8
      Yup. Trump "rescued" the Republican party with this
Aug 28th 2020
12
           White men.. and their wives.. and kids
Aug 28th 2020
13
           youre forgetting the intentional massive voter suppression
Aug 28th 2020
19
                YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP
Aug 28th 2020
20
                I'm talking about the RNC autopsy
Aug 28th 2020
27
                     the rnc hired a black chairman (steele) and fired him
Aug 28th 2020
30
                          Autopsy was 2013
Aug 28th 2020
33
                               my bad i meant post 2012.
Aug 28th 2020
37
It’s definitely not helping
Aug 28th 2020
14
btw it says a lot about our country that virtually nobody is predicting
Aug 28th 2020
16
berating people to stand with you
Aug 28th 2020
18
im not completely convinced all of these folks are authentic.
Aug 28th 2020
21
I'm not ruling out that some of them are agitators
Aug 28th 2020
25
does the media ever interview these 'protestors'?
Aug 28th 2020
32
      Good point
Aug 28th 2020
57
i've seen them live and in person
Aug 28th 2020
35
      trash as in fake?
Aug 28th 2020
38
           yeah like weird
Aug 28th 2020
39
                how/where are these things even organized?
Aug 28th 2020
42
                     idk
Aug 28th 2020
43
                          ah thanks for the details.
Aug 28th 2020
45
That’s why riots is in parentheses
Aug 28th 2020
31
      exactly
Aug 28th 2020
36
      Without a doubt
Aug 28th 2020
56
I worry it could
Aug 28th 2020
22
also its kinda weird that biden is being made to answer
Aug 28th 2020
23
Fucking Bizarro world
Aug 28th 2020
24
thats not wrong and oversimplifying. thats the republican coalition.
Aug 28th 2020
34
Yep :(
Aug 28th 2020
26
It's quite possible.
Aug 28th 2020
29
fam i dont even feel comfortable with 6 with the amount of cheating
Aug 28th 2020
40
a bit of good news i guess: night 4 ratings worse than night 3
Aug 28th 2020
44
I sure hope not...
Aug 28th 2020
46
Us
Aug 28th 2020
47
Yes.. as in the people voting for the Dem candidate in the election.
Aug 28th 2020
48
      as in the majority of america really.
Aug 28th 2020
49
      Lol this country is finished
Aug 29th 2020
93
           Yup.
Sep 07th 2020
190
i think it's going to have minimal to zero effect on the election itself...
Aug 28th 2020
50
RE: i think it's going to have minimal to zero effect on the election it...
Aug 28th 2020
51
and you just brought up why i think it may help...
Aug 28th 2020
52
damn Im just now seeing your post. Great minds.
Aug 28th 2020
64
Rand Paul getting run up on is not good
Aug 28th 2020
53
Yeah and the mob confirms their worst fears
Aug 28th 2020
54
I watched that video thinking homie got yammed up. Anti climatic
Aug 28th 2020
65
and he saying he would have been killed had the police not been there
Aug 28th 2020
68
I get what you're saying, but fuck Rand Paul.
Aug 28th 2020
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RE: Rand Paul getting run up on is not good
Aug 29th 2020
97
it's a lifeline to Trump for sure
Aug 28th 2020
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is it though
Aug 28th 2020
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https://twitter.com/kunklefredrick/status/1298344285079838720?s=21
Aug 28th 2020
59
yeah that's the one i was thinking of
Aug 28th 2020
61
you know the rnc was a flop when trump has to bring back the hits.
Aug 28th 2020
60
definitely playing it up...
Aug 28th 2020
62
Lines were drawn long before the protest
Aug 28th 2020
66
we had an election on these issues.
Aug 28th 2020
67
this isn't fucking true and people should stop saying it
Aug 28th 2020
77
imagine your *entire* political sense of reality is still based on polls
Aug 28th 2020
81
*shrug* meanwhile we're in the panic room every few days
Aug 28th 2020
85
      I guess this is what you're telling yourself
Aug 29th 2020
88
They’ve said it enough times in their heads
Aug 28th 2020
82
No no no baby you cant talk anymore till you tell us the truth.
Aug 28th 2020
86
      I need to be black to speak on healthcare? lmao
Aug 29th 2020
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           *updates database*
Aug 29th 2020
91
I know attacking people instead of their arguments is your mo
Aug 28th 2020
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      I didn't attack you at all.
Aug 29th 2020
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           bet
Aug 29th 2020
92
                sweet. so let's start with UBI
Aug 29th 2020
100
                Whats your argument, that UBI is far fetched or that people wont support...
Aug 30th 2020
107
                     where did I say either of those things.
Aug 30th 2020
119
                     weird how Brotha Sun can't answer this question
Sep 07th 2020
200
                     I hate that people like you claim to be progressives
Aug 30th 2020
123
                          You couldn't last 30 seconds without going straight ad hominem. lol
Aug 31st 2020
127
                               ...you committed an ad hominem in the quote
Sep 07th 2020
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                M4A look at the actual poll
Aug 29th 2020
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                i posted a poll on here where details of m4a are gradually revealed
Aug 30th 2020
105
                You are comparing SURVEY TAKERS to VOTERS
Aug 30th 2020
106
                     Oh come on. People aren't voting on policies, theyre voting on names
Aug 30th 2020
108
                          Man you are fucking condescending
Aug 30th 2020
110
                               The contempt is very much warranted.
Aug 30th 2020
112
                                    You make me feel like I'm Mr.T
Aug 30th 2020
116
                                         am i now your enemy because i tell you the truth?
Aug 31st 2020
128
                                              You are simply a loud fool
Sep 01st 2020
131
                                                   :( dont quit on me. i didnt even get on my dr yakub soapbox yet.
Sep 01st 2020
135
bruh talking with liberals about actual political goals/policy
Sep 07th 2020
191
      you see it
Sep 07th 2020
194
           so what makes you not a liberal btw
Sep 07th 2020
199
biden is up over 9 pts on 538 again.
Aug 28th 2020
70
Like mista 5k said to you in another post, stop ...
Aug 28th 2020
73
i think people are doing a lot of cherrypicking right now.
Aug 28th 2020
74
      Yea I don't doubt any of that at all.
Aug 28th 2020
80
commentators say "it's a lifeline" because they have to say something
Aug 28th 2020
78
      so much political news coverage now is pundits guessing
Aug 28th 2020
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           the way pundits talk about politics is so removed from anyone's reality
Aug 29th 2020
89
I wish it were a little harder for right wing talking points
Aug 28th 2020
75
bruh
Aug 29th 2020
95
      they just accept whatever they hear on the news, it's actually insane
Aug 29th 2020
102
No. Not if people just show the fuck up and vote.
Aug 29th 2020
96
Yes. VOTE. They better leave USPS alone
Aug 29th 2020
99
No
Aug 30th 2020
111
abc/ipsos polled the impact of the conventions:
Aug 30th 2020
113
btw all this talk about tightening...bidens lead on 538 is still 8.8.
Aug 30th 2020
114
      I'm a believer in the existence of the Shy Trump voter.
Aug 30th 2020
115
           the hidden trump vote is a dispelled myth.
Aug 30th 2020
117
           I hope you're right.
Aug 31st 2020
126
           who is this person who votes for trump
Aug 30th 2020
120
           a lot of these polls are online responses too.
Aug 30th 2020
122
                RE: a lot of these polls are online responses too.
Aug 31st 2020
124
           The “I haven’t decided yet” voter
Aug 31st 2020
125
                I'm not saying they all have flags, but they don't need flags
Sep 01st 2020
130
btw maybe the worst addition to mainstream political discussion
Aug 30th 2020
118
"the vegas line isxyz" is the dumbest shit even in sports broadcasting
Aug 30th 2020
121
biden raises over $350 mil in august (prez monthly record).
Sep 01st 2020
129
btw the previous record is $193 mil by obama in sep 2008.
Sep 01st 2020
134
Damn...
Sep 01st 2020
139
biden campaign officially reports $364.5 mil fundraising haul.
Sep 02nd 2020
143
Not a single post about Reichstag Fire (Decree)?
Sep 01st 2020
132
weimar/nazi germany rally provocations is prolly more accurate.
Sep 01st 2020
133
Did you miss the “Antifa” News today?
Sep 01st 2020
136
      no.
Sep 01st 2020
137
      I guess I did ?
Sep 01st 2020
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           RE: I guess I did ?
Sep 01st 2020
140
omg i've seen that building
Sep 01st 2020
141
      I have been inside it too!
Sep 02nd 2020
160
I just requested my mail in ballot...
Sep 02nd 2020
142
i will be doing early voting
Sep 02nd 2020
144
Hell no, I’m voting in person. Can’t trust it in NC
Sep 02nd 2020
145
what about the board of elections office?
Sep 02nd 2020
148
      Ahh, I thought you changed residency already.
Sep 02nd 2020
161
I voted absentee for the primary but I'm going to go in in Nov.
Sep 02nd 2020
146
I ordered one too, as did my wife, but ...
Sep 02nd 2020
147
nope
Sep 02nd 2020
149
nancy pelosi just handed trump a campaign gift (c) chris cillizza (cnn)
Sep 02nd 2020
150
It’s Chris Clizza man.
Sep 02nd 2020
151
The New Tan Suit
Sep 02nd 2020
152
case in point for how sexist the good ole boy dc press is.
Sep 02nd 2020
153
      Sickening.
Sep 02nd 2020
155
RE: nancy pelosi just handed trump a campaign gift (c) chris cillizza (c...
Sep 02nd 2020
158
Wow...so it's the protests and not the Dems
Sep 02nd 2020
154
Umm.. okay
Sep 03rd 2020
165
      I think reacting this way towards people that feel that is a mistake.
Sep 03rd 2020
168
           Biden's in a catch-22 no?
Sep 03rd 2020
170
           Thanks for saying that
Sep 03rd 2020
175
so a ton a reputable polls dropped today.
Sep 02nd 2020
156
Question: What is the advantage in painting this election as anything
Sep 03rd 2020
167
I agree- seems very echo chamber ish
Sep 03rd 2020
172
question: what's this weirdo shit you're doing?
Sep 03rd 2020
176
huh? What are you talking about?
Sep 03rd 2020
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      except your post isn't about his post with the polls
Sep 03rd 2020
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im not sure you understand what an echo chamber actually is.
Sep 03rd 2020
182
the question in the op was about the riots influencing the election.
Sep 03rd 2020
181
btw emerson was absolute dogshit in the primaries
Sep 03rd 2020
183
      umm
Sep 04th 2020
184
? The PA and NC polls do not make me feel good at all
Sep 03rd 2020
171
cdc sends states notice to prepare for vaccine rollout by early nov.
Sep 02nd 2020
157
I work at a hospital - we expected this in October
Sep 03rd 2020
166
as with all things in trumpland
Sep 03rd 2020
177
      I do think a vaccine will be released to hospital workers before the ele...
Sep 03rd 2020
180
           yup.
Sep 05th 2020
186
mmmmmmyeah
Sep 03rd 2020
173
trump encourages his voters to illegally vote twice.
Sep 02nd 2020
159
oh so the group
Sep 03rd 2020
162
Not sure what you mean by this.. his base is trash
Sep 03rd 2020
163
      didn't want to make another post
Sep 03rd 2020
164
Arnold Offers to Pay to Reopen Closed Polling Places Across the South
Sep 03rd 2020
174
Changing my vote to yes.
Sep 04th 2020
185
the thing that worries me
Sep 05th 2020
187
Can't Really Push the Lawlessness Angle When
Sep 06th 2020
188
y'all some weirdos.
Sep 07th 2020
189
Lmao.. is this a yes or no?
Sep 07th 2020
192
      It's a "this is a dumb ass question"
Sep 07th 2020
193
           Remember all the BLM protest and rallies after the election in 2016?
Sep 07th 2020
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                Uh, i remember all of them, and they kinda led to these riots, partially
Sep 07th 2020
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                     I know what led to these protest
Sep 07th 2020
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                          No. Matter of fact, as the evictions & poverty rise
Sep 08th 2020
201
                               Which leads to another fear of mine
Sep 08th 2020
202
                                    so you just gonna ben shapiro from topic to topic? Cool
Sep 08th 2020
203
                                    If they gotta, after 2000 Gore, and 2016 Hillary, they just gotta
Sep 08th 2020
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