as I thought it a good explanation as to why you do it, but didn't want to plagiarize. That' beside the point. Do you think you don't go to the President to plea your position if you know that you won't give them a photo opp?**********"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"