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"Nevada Primary"


          

Politico says it’s a race for 2nd. Bernie got it locked.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/17/bernie-sanders-nevada-breaks-pack-115450

LAS VEGAS — Bernie Sanders is becoming harder to stop. Nevada is where his opponents are starting to realize it.

Advisers to three rival campaigns privately conceded over the weekend that the best anyone else could hope for here is second or third. Some of them gape at the crowd sizes at Sanders' events — like the swarm of supporters who accompanied Sanders, his fist raised, to an early caucus site in Las Vegas on Saturday, the first day of early voting in the state.


While few expect that Sanders can carry more than a third of the vote in Nevada, nearly everyone believes that will be enough to win in a field where the moderate vote remains splintered. It is becoming a source of celebration for Sanders' supporters and an urgent problem for those who want to prevent him from claiming the nomination.
“He’s going to win with 28 percent of the vote. We’re not talking about him getting 50 percent of the vote,” said Andres Ramirez, a Nevada-based Democratic strategist and former vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee’s Hispanic Caucus. “But the rest of the field is so fragmented, and he has his base locked, that he can continue winning just by holding onto his base.”

There are signs the field may become even more fragmented in Nevada this week.
"The rest of the field is so fragmented, and he has his base locked, that he can continue winning just by holding onto his base.”

- Andres Ramirez, a Nevada-based Democratic strategist
Pete Buttigieg, who topped the field with Sanders in Iowa and finished less than 2 percentage points behind him in New Hampshire, is not polling well in Nevada or in the next voting state, South Carolina. Amy Klobuchar surged in New Hampshire but is starting from behind in Nevada. Biden is the opposite — humiliated in Iowa and New Hampshire but with better prospects here.


An aide to one of Sanders' opponents described the new "default state of the race" as one featuring Sanders in his own orbit and everyone else in theirs.

The carousel of rising and falling centrists is pushing Sanders ahead. Each of his competitors is now scrambling to emerge as the one credible alternative to him — and to do so convincingly before Super Tuesday, when the free-spending billionaire Michael Bloomberg begins to assert himself in that same centrist lane.

It may be too late. In Nevada this weekend — the first state with a sizable Latino vote — Democratic activists were still murmuring about the inability of Klobuchar and Tom Steyer to name Mexico’s president during interviews with Telemundo late last week. Polling suggests Buttigieg and Klobuchar are not exciting broad swaths of voters in Nevada and South Carolina. Warren finished a distant fourth in New Hampshire. Hoarse when she addressed a Clark County Democratic Party gala at the Tropicana on Saturday night, she said she’d caught a cold.

At the Clark County event that evening, Sanders ignored them all, framing the primary as a race only between him and Bloomberg, who is rising in national polls.

“Regardless of how much money a multi-billionaire candidate is willing to spend on his election,” Sanders told activists in Las Vegas, “we will not create the energy and excitement we need to defeat Donald Trump if that candidate pursued, advocated for and enacted racist policies like stop-and-frisk, which caused communities of color in his city to live in fear.”

The dim prospects of anyone beating Sanders in Nevada were laid bare last week, when the state’s powerful Culinary Workers Union elected not to endorse in the presidential primary. Despite its criticism of Sanders’ signature policy proposal, Medicare for All, the union was not convinced that any other Democrat could defeat Sanders, even with the union’s endorsement, according to a source familiar with the union’s deliberations.


Nor will Harry Reid, the former Senate majority leader, get involved. After casting his caucus vote early on Saturday at the East Las Vegas Library, he said he marked “uncommitted.” While praising every candidate, he said he did not plan to consider endorsing until after Super Tuesday.


No Democrat, of course, views Nevada as a last stand. Multiple candidates are campaigning here with an eye on the primaries to come, airing advertisements in later-voting states or leaving Nevada in spurts to expand their footprints in the West.

Biden, following demoralizing finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire, said he believes he has “a shot at winning” Nevada but that he does not have to. Other campaigns say an impressive debate performance on Wednesday could lift them, citing Klobuchar’s post-debate surge in New Hampshire as an example.

Buttigieg began organizing relatively late in Nevada but fielded a successful caucus operation in Iowa that his supporters believe he may be able to replicate here. Buttigieg said Sunday that the contest is a "jump ball."

Still, the imperative to draw some momentum from the Feb. 22 caucuses hangs heavily over every campaign — and Sanders is tilting the landscape.


Emerging from a long line outside a caucus site on Saturday, Clark County Democratic Party Chairwoman Donna West said the election remains “wide open,” citing Klobuchar as an example of a candidate who is “coming on strong.”

Yet, Sanders was impossible to ignore.

“I mean, they have 250 staffers, and I’m sure they brought more in from Iowa,” West said. “They are staffed up … The gentleman who was behind me in line said the only campaign he’d heard from was the Sanders campaign.”

The Nevada Poll released on Friday had Sanders running at 25 percent, followed by Biden at 18 percent and Warren at 13 percent. And as other campaigns arrived at the Tropicana for the Democratic gala on Saturday night, they opened their programs to find the Vermont senator — in a full-page ad on the inside cover — staring back at them.


Megan Jones, a Nevada-based Democratic consultant who advised Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign, said it is possible that Biden or Warren could revive their candidacies in the caucuses.

Still, she said, “Any of these candidates are going to be hard pressed to get 30 percent of the vote.”


Even for Sanders, Jones said, “There’s no doubt that he has the best organization for the long haul. But if he doesn’t get above 25ish, 25 percent in any of these states, what does that mean? I think it might mean that we go to a brokered convention, or I think Bloomberg, while I think he definitely is in it to win it, I think he also is in it to make sure Bernie doesn’t.”

Norman Solomon, a co-founder of the pro-Sanders online activist group RootsAction.org, said Bloomberg does represent a “rising fear,” if only because of the money he can spend.

But he likened moderate Democrats’ inability to settle on a candidate in the early-voting states to an identity crisis — in part of Sanders' making.

“The establishment,” he said, “seems almost clueless about what they have to offer.”

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Nevada Primary [View all] , legsdiamond, Mon Feb-17-20 09:42 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
get them votes in.
Feb 17th 2020
1
Meanwhile, Amy Klobuchar can’t name the President of Mexico
Feb 18th 2020
2
Terrible. Didn’t Pete also whiff on the same question?
Feb 18th 2020
4
      Nah, it was Steyer
Feb 18th 2020
5
      at least Steyer knew MLO's politics though lol
Feb 18th 2020
7
      Ahh yes, thanks for the correction.
Feb 18th 2020
13
      Pete did well in his interview.
Feb 18th 2020
6
           I really don't think this is true
Feb 18th 2020
8
                I doubt he has hard fluency in any of them
Feb 18th 2020
10
                lol.. why did I need so many more words to say this same thing??
Feb 18th 2020
12
                Agreed. That said, it does seem to have been sensationalized by others,
Feb 18th 2020
11
Bern at 35%
Feb 18th 2020
3
Not gonna be Warren. She shit all over herself.
Feb 18th 2020
9
      She’s at 19%
Feb 18th 2020
18
           No. It's Bernie vs everybody else.
Feb 19th 2020
32
looks like another mess ahead
Feb 18th 2020
14
Well what do you know: Bloomberg qualified for Nevada debate
Feb 18th 2020
15
Ngl:I'm interested to see how/whether the debate format helps him or not...
Feb 18th 2020
16
      im definitely curious to see how her performs in the debate
Feb 18th 2020
17
      He strikes me as the type to take the bait
Feb 18th 2020
19
      I'm also interested in how moderators will adjudicate the debate
Feb 18th 2020
23
2 important articles
Feb 18th 2020
20
Propagandists ? damn
Feb 18th 2020
21
RE: Propagandists ? damn
Feb 18th 2020
24
      Not Krystal Ball
Feb 18th 2020
25
im reading through the first one at the primary source
Feb 18th 2020
22
i just noticed the first link is broken
Feb 18th 2020
26
Re: the Yale/Galvani study - Since so many other candidate's proposals
Feb 18th 2020
27
thanks for that link
Feb 19th 2020
35
Other thing is, I've been following these studies re: the healthcare
Feb 18th 2020
28
      What are the other plans?
Feb 19th 2020
30
      Ummm, on his website looks like a 7-pronged strategy:
Feb 24th 2020
96
      a couple of points
Feb 19th 2020
34
      Ugh. #94 lol
Feb 24th 2020
95
      Pete Buttigieg’s Health Care Plan Is A Joke
Feb 19th 2020
37
           I really had to come back to this when I had time. Wow.
Feb 24th 2020
94
                How many people died while you were writing that
Feb 25th 2020
100
                     How many people would die from untimely access to care due to
Feb 25th 2020
107
1st time voter Boots Riley
Feb 18th 2020
29
thats interesting
Feb 19th 2020
31
      RE: thats interesting
Feb 19th 2020
38
           dope, thanks
Feb 19th 2020
39
wait, Andrew Yang dropped out of the race
Feb 19th 2020
33
Booo him?
Feb 19th 2020
36
Van Jones still has the hots for him at least
Feb 21st 2020
44
      now bernie fans love cnn/van jones
Feb 24th 2020
97
Debate Check In
Feb 19th 2020
40
Who is Robb Stark ?
Feb 19th 2020
41
http://www.mayopete.io/
Feb 20th 2020
42
LOL
Feb 21st 2020
45
All signs point to a very high turnout in the Nevada Caucus
Feb 21st 2020
All signs point to a very high turnout in the Nevada Caucus
Feb 21st 2020
43
Worth the Price? Doc about Biden's role in Iraq War (link)
Feb 22nd 2020
46
My girl Liz needs to finish top 3 (hoping for second), hoping as many
Feb 22nd 2020
47
Good write up/article from nytimes, showing how much each spent
Feb 22nd 2020
48
Bernard killing this shit.
Feb 22nd 2020
49
He has the Latino vote on lock in Nevada
Feb 22nd 2020
50
      This isn’t unique to Nevada
Feb 22nd 2020
51
           I still want to see it play out before waving the victory flag
Feb 22nd 2020
52
Since Iowa
Feb 22nd 2020
53
Why can't Bernie win ?
Feb 22nd 2020
54
RE: Why can't Bernie win ?
Feb 22nd 2020
56
      To think this ignores MOUNDS of data.
Feb 22nd 2020
58
      yea - I was hoping for some actual empirical-based argument
Feb 22nd 2020
59
      I can't see him losing any state Hillary actually won
Feb 23rd 2020
69
      Sanders is best positioned to gain traction in a red leaning electoral m...
Feb 22nd 2020
61
      Americans are extremely scared of change...
Feb 22nd 2020
62
           This just isn’t true.
Feb 22nd 2020
68
                Then why are so many voters still thinking Bernie can’t win?
Feb 23rd 2020
72
                     Because they don't pay attention to the facts.
Feb 23rd 2020
73
                          Bernie Bro is a myth ?
Feb 23rd 2020
74
                               It’s legit scary how nutz some of these folks are
Feb 23rd 2020
76
                               A Bernie "bro" is likely to be a woman and/or a POC
Feb 23rd 2020
77
                               They've decided that it's true and they don't care about the reality
Feb 23rd 2020
79
                               Yes, he has the most diverse base by a mile.
Feb 23rd 2020
78
      Interesting
Feb 22nd 2020
67
RE: Since Iowa
Feb 22nd 2020
55
Good question.
Feb 22nd 2020
60
      Bloomberg?
Feb 22nd 2020
64
      Those dudes ain’t winning
Feb 22nd 2020
65
      Bloomberg's on the ballot I'm skipping it.
Feb 23rd 2020
70
      LOL. Bernie does better against Trump than Bloomberg and Pete
Feb 23rd 2020
71
      I think I know what you mean.
Feb 23rd 2020
84
      And to your point about wanting a clear mod/ctr-left winner already:
Feb 23rd 2020
85
I don’t think he can win either but this seems to be the cards
Feb 22nd 2020
63
Thus far, Sanders is dominating both the pop vote *and* alignment
Feb 22nd 2020
57
FEEL THE BERN🔥✊🏽🔥✊🏾🔥✊🏻🔥✊🏿🔥✊🏼
Feb 22nd 2020
66
The Dems comparing Bernie to nazis today lost big in 2016
Feb 23rd 2020
75
I wish I could compile all the shit said about Obama in '08
Feb 23rd 2020
80
the fearmongering around bernie from people who know better
Feb 23rd 2020
81
Ok Reeq :/
Feb 23rd 2020
83
      Huh? You pretty much nailed it with the Nazi comparison
Feb 24th 2020
86
      Lol, right. I think we agree.
Feb 24th 2020
93
      there's fair criticism and then there's fearmongering
Feb 24th 2020
88
      I hear ya, and fair points. Just want to respond to this one exchange:
Feb 24th 2020
92
           Stop falling for the manufactured "Bernie Bro" trope...
Feb 25th 2020
99
                Has anyone provided receipts
Feb 25th 2020
101
                Fam.. there is an OKP who dates a woman who identifies
Feb 25th 2020
104
                I'm not falling for anything lol.I do my research,I observe,I don't like...
Feb 25th 2020
105
                     So.. when folks say they are harassed does Twitter delete the text
Feb 25th 2020
106
                          I'm not sure tbh. A lot of people screenshot tho, so the worst ones
Feb 25th 2020
109
                               Ok. I found a few.
Feb 25th 2020
111
      cmon sis you know im not a sanders cheerleader.
Feb 25th 2020
108
           I hear ya.
Feb 25th 2020
110
yup. you already know Trump's trying to make this election
Feb 23rd 2020
82
      pretty much... LOL, that's riling up the GOP base
Feb 24th 2020
89
      any statement that begins with "people arent stupid enough to"
Feb 25th 2020
113
           yeah that door got permanently kicked down in 2016.
Feb 26th 2020
115
LOL @ this Buttigieg stunt
Feb 24th 2020
87
huge win by burning man
Feb 24th 2020
90
bernies san antonio speech was pretty good
Feb 24th 2020
91
RIP to the 'How You Gonna Pay for That' trope
Feb 25th 2020
98
Biden thinks he's running for senate???? Drop out Joe :(
Feb 25th 2020
102
Yeah this is a bad look
Feb 25th 2020
103
lmao poor unky joe
Feb 25th 2020
112
my man just wants a glass of milk and some graham crackers.
Feb 25th 2020
114

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