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"Sanders/Warren watch in 2020 Dem Primary: The demographics"
Tue Aug-20-19 11:34 AM by Vex_id

          

Though Biden has been the polling/DNC favorite for months - I believe his stock will continue to plummet - to where the real battle will be between Warren & Sanders. Interestingly, Dem Establishment figures have lectured for years on the necessity in producing moderate candidates that appeal to Conservatives/Independents - but what's happening on the ground is self-explanatory: Outside of Biden (who has a half-century of name recognition while riding on the Obama legacy coattails) - the two strongest candidates are Progressives with a capital P: Sanders & Warren.

So let's look at their respective support base.

In the aftermath of the 2016 primary, much of the analysis was focused on the inability of the Sanders campaign to draw from a broad enough swath of the electorate to knock off the Clinton juggernaut machine - and rightfully so.

Fast-forward to today, and many still speak of the Sanders campaign as if it's 2016, persisting with a narrative that he struggles to attract a diverse base - but the data actually shows quite the opposite, particularly in contrast to Warren - whose support is significantly older, more affluent - and decisively whiter. In contrast, Sanders draws his support from a more diverse, younger, and working class group of voters.

A recent Pew poll confirmed: only 49% of Sanders supporters are white, compared with 56% of Biden voters, 59% of Harris voters, and a remarkable 71% of Warren voters. When it comes specifically to black voters, Sanders only trails Biden - and has neutralized Harris at ~10% - while Warren trails significantly behind.

While the "Bernie Bro" myth persists in the minds of many still bitter from the contested 2016 primary - its accuracy has been obliterated by what's actually happening on the ground with Democratic primary voters.

So - given that Sanders is starting to put together a primary voter coalition that reflects the diversity of the democratic electorate - will we start to see the corporate media think-pieces that make the case for Sanders over Warren? Unlikely.

My personal view is that both Sanders and Warren are excellent candidates to thwart Trump and I'd be happy with either one emerging. That said, it's very interesting to see many analysts (including here on OKP) push Warren despite her affluent, older, whiter (and often more male) support - when they were criticizing Sanders at every opportunity in 2016 for not producing a diverse enough base.




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Sanders/Warren watch in 2020 Dem Primary: The demographics [View all] , Vex_id, Tue Aug-20-19 11:27 AM
 
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I like both
Aug 20th 2019
1
RE: I like both
Aug 20th 2019
2
Fair, but he's spry as hell
Aug 20th 2019
6
This Pew Research chart is THE most comprehensive comparison I've seen
Aug 20th 2019
3
Yes - it's excellent. That's the pew research cited in the OP
Aug 20th 2019
4
np! I suspected as much :)
Aug 20th 2019
11
thats a big percentage of black/latino voters that are undecided
Aug 20th 2019
5
EXACTLY. I think the MSM has been reporting black voter sentiment wrong
Aug 20th 2019
12
      i think youre right
Aug 20th 2019
14
Also interesting: Tulsi/Yang/Castro have largest % of non-white donors
Aug 20th 2019
7
They are not the same!
Aug 20th 2019
8
I think you are right in the sense that Warren will pivot
Aug 20th 2019
9
RE: I think you are right in the sense that Warren will pivot
Aug 20th 2019
10
      Without question, Bernie is most unpalatable for big media/elites
Aug 20th 2019
17
           RE: Without question, Bernie is most unpalatable for big media/elites
Aug 20th 2019
18
Yup.
Aug 20th 2019
16
The idea that Warren is some corporate shill is ridiculous to me.
Aug 20th 2019
19
      I think that's hyperbolic. I haven't seen anyone state that
Aug 20th 2019
22
There's lots of bad stats being parroted imho, about multiple candidates
Aug 20th 2019
13
I think these numbers now don't mean much
Aug 20th 2019
15
yeah but how do you explain this?
Aug 20th 2019
20
"Stronger Together" ?
Aug 20th 2019
21
I see you Vex
Aug 20th 2019
23
in the spirit of the Matrix 4....
Aug 21st 2019
24
      HA!
Aug 21st 2019
25
warren edges out sanders imo. the age demos doom bernie.
Aug 22nd 2019
26
You know what? My hunch is Sanders doesn't do "poorly" with 50+ per se,
Aug 22nd 2019
28
iono fam lol. it tracks with some tangible voter behavior we have imo.
Aug 22nd 2019
30
      Lol, I hear you. All good points. And to your question re: Sanders' lag:
Aug 22nd 2019
31
      Hmm, you just made me think of another thing too:
Aug 22nd 2019
32
           I think you might be neglecting the media
Aug 23rd 2019
35
                Nah, I'm sorry but that's bullshit. Sanders has some of the HIGHEST
Aug 23rd 2019
36
                     sis these people are crazy. sounding straight up like trump supporters.
Aug 25th 2019
43
                     The link is not bullshit, FAIR is a solid assessor of such things but .....
Aug 25th 2019
47
So now drawing from a diverse electorate is largely negligible?
Aug 23rd 2019
33
      oh is this just about diversity for diversitys sake
Aug 25th 2019
42
           since when does drawing from a diverse electorate
Aug 26th 2019
49
Krystal Ball: Elites have chosen Warren as The One
Aug 22nd 2019
27
lol first it was kamala, then beto, then mayor pete, now lizzy.
Aug 22nd 2019
29
      or they're just shit candidiates who've sucked on the campaign trail
Aug 23rd 2019
34
      I fell for the Beto hype.. dude is a dud.
Aug 23rd 2019
37
      Liz has been the "establishment" pick all along
Aug 23rd 2019
38
      the real treasure was the friends we made along the way?
Aug 25th 2019
45
      It was Kamala in the beginning. The Establishment really REALLY
Aug 26th 2019
56
           agreed in part
Oct 18th 2019
78
      I wanna agree with you wholeheartedly BUT things do change
Aug 25th 2019
46
It's a red flag party!
Aug 23rd 2019
39
once she announced that she's taking donor money in the
Aug 23rd 2019
40
You have interesting sources for a Bernie Bro
Aug 23rd 2019
41
michael tracey? are you intentionally being a stereotype?
Aug 25th 2019
44
      For those who need their sources & voices corporate approved
Aug 26th 2019
48
           as a person who don't really fuck with the corporate media on certain to...
Aug 26th 2019
50
           yeah warren courting donors pretty much renders her policies moot
Aug 26th 2019
52
Welp - that didn't take long. Biden drops to 3rd
Aug 26th 2019
51
LOL... now to see what WaPo and 'em do in response
Aug 26th 2019
53
The is THE opportunity for Kamala and Cory. If/when the Black
Aug 26th 2019
55
yup. Expect Kamala to come out swinging.
Aug 26th 2019
60
eh i could see apathy before siding with either of them
Aug 26th 2019
63
Right! I cited WaPo for irony's sake lol
Aug 26th 2019
61
he cant drop fast enough
Aug 26th 2019
54
      Without having the numbers in front of me, I thought I saw that Bernie
Aug 26th 2019
57
      upon further review it looks like they split it
Aug 26th 2019
58
      I still believe the Biden margin was bloated from the jump
Aug 26th 2019
59
      i guess its name recognition
Aug 26th 2019
62
      He is such trash
Aug 26th 2019
64
Biden 32; Sanders 20; Warren 18 as of 9/16
Sep 17th 2019
65
y'all still think Biden got this or nah?
Oct 16th 2019
66
we in trouble
Oct 16th 2019
67
RE: we in trouble
Oct 18th 2019
69
      NONE of the options are any good.
Oct 18th 2019
71
      which ones would be good presidents?
Oct 18th 2019
72
           Warren.
Oct 18th 2019
73
      no one, Vex
Oct 18th 2019
80
           RE: no one, Vex
Oct 19th 2019
82
                Im following you...
Oct 22nd 2019
87
It's Biden or Warren at this point.
Oct 16th 2019
68
Do you honestly think Biden is going to be a factor this time next year?
Oct 18th 2019
70
      Nah... Biden is going to be around until the end.
Oct 18th 2019
75
           Interesting optimism re: Biden. His campaign's basically a failed enterp...
Oct 18th 2019
76
                that why i do think the performance we saw from amy and pete
Oct 18th 2019
77
                I’m not sure he will win but I think he will be the last one out
Oct 18th 2019
81
nope.
Oct 18th 2019
79
welp, 4 more years coming smh
Oct 18th 2019
74
Over 20,000 people rallying right now in Queens w/ AOC
Oct 19th 2019
83
yeah. this time, they can't really pull the 'Bro' card
Oct 19th 2019
84
      well-said. Still, far too few peel back the layers like you just did:
Oct 19th 2019
85
Emerson poll 10/22: Biden 27%; Sanders 25%; Warren 21%
Oct 22nd 2019
86
CNN N.H. poll: Sanders 22%; Warren 18%; Biden 15%
Oct 29th 2019
88
at what point do you call bluff on the Biden polling?
Nov 04th 2019
89
2016 proved (once again) that polls are not to be trusted.
Nov 04th 2019
90
      RE: 2016 proved (once again) that polls are not to be trusted.
Nov 05th 2019
91
Monmouth poll (10/30-11/4) Biden 23%; Warren 23%; Sanders 20%
Nov 06th 2019
92
Quinnipiac (Iowa): Warren: 20%; Pete: 19%: Sanders 17%
Nov 07th 2019
93
Warren plummeting in new nation-wide polls (12-3)
Dec 03rd 2019
94
going to link the polls?
Dec 03rd 2019
95
I don't think it's helpful to continue to cite singular polls as they co...
Dec 03rd 2019
96
      LOL
Dec 06th 2019
99
           Cool.
Dec 06th 2019
101
this is what happens when you waffle on M4A...
Dec 04th 2019
97
Get her out of there she's trash.
Dec 06th 2019
98
for what it's worth: these two should be the last two remaining IMO
Dec 06th 2019
100
It should - but Biden's artificial strength still impacts the race
Dec 06th 2019
102
Sanders ascending in delegate rich California
Dec 09th 2019
103
Politico: Dem Insiders: Bernie Could Win Nomination
Dec 27th 2019
104
They are finally realizing the inevitable
Dec 27th 2019
105
RE: They are finally realizing the inevitable
Dec 30th 2019
106
He's not
Dec 30th 2019
107
      so who is the strongest candidate?
Dec 30th 2019
108
      He's the best candidate of your lifetime.
Dec 31st 2019
110
           lol
Dec 31st 2019
112
I'm shocked that an insider is saying this.
Dec 30th 2019
109
      It seemed to have been more of a warning shot
Dec 31st 2019
111
           bingo.
Jan 03rd 2020
122
Sanders raises 34.5 million in fundraising surge (WSJ)
Jan 02nd 2020
113
14.4* million people voted in the 2016 democratic primaries
Jan 02nd 2020
114
RE: Sanders raises 34.5 million in fundraising surge (WSJ)
Jan 02nd 2020
115
that makes more sense
Jan 02nd 2020
116
RE: Sanders raises 34.5 million in fundraising surge (WSJ)
Jan 02nd 2020
118
LOL and Andrew Yang raised 16.5 million.
Jan 02nd 2020
117
warren struggling to hit "only" 20 million
Jan 02nd 2020
119
its kinda funny how much the media was hyping up
Jan 02nd 2020
120
      yea I saw that.
Jan 02nd 2020
121
Dem Primary shaping up to be a Biden v. Bernie showdown | 1/7
Jan 08th 2020
123
Time to make something of Biden's Iraq war vote
Jan 08th 2020
124
      Bernie is bodying Biden on Iraq, fairly regularly now
Jan 09th 2020
126
When even Chris Cillizza is conceding to Bernie's strength
Jan 09th 2020
125
Is it time for Warren to consider backing Bernie to thwart Biden?
Jan 09th 2020
127
lets get some votes cast first
Jan 09th 2020
128
Agreed - but at what point should this happen?
Jan 09th 2020
129
      it should be considered before super tuesday
Jan 09th 2020
130
      Pete needs to chill
Jan 09th 2020
131
           Maybe Pete needs to drop out and endorse Biden.
Jan 09th 2020
136
           If you say so.
Jan 09th 2020
142
           Pete's got another re-brand in him
Jan 09th 2020
143
                Pete's fundraising has been quite effective. ~$25 mill in Q4 I believe
Jan 09th 2020
144
      LMAO what?
Jan 09th 2020
138
           The reason for asking a question is generally to elicit a response
Jan 09th 2020
141
RE: Is it time for Warren to consider backing Bernie to thwart Biden?
Jan 09th 2020
132
The Sunrise endorsement is an important one
Jan 09th 2020
148
LOL, just like it was Warren's job to thwart Hillary.
Jan 09th 2020
133
Oh, Warren was running for President in 2016?
Jan 09th 2020
134
      LOL, struck a nerve.
Jan 09th 2020
135
      lol this is low - even for you.
Jan 09th 2020
137
           You probably have female friends, too!
Jan 09th 2020
145
                Damn Strav you ok? Can you read?
Jan 09th 2020
146
                     No, the way to not say sexist things...
Jan 09th 2020
147
                          RE: No, the way to not say sexist things...
Jan 09th 2020
149
                               No, you won't, will you?
Jan 09th 2020
150
                                    another deflection.
Jan 09th 2020
151
      wait, what? Not to jump into your spat but stop playing dumb
Jan 09th 2020
139
           What happened to "vote blue no matter who"?
Jan 09th 2020
140
                you really are your own worst enemy, bro
Jan 13th 2020
162
Wait, what? Why should "she" be the one to drop out for "him"?
Jan 10th 2020
152
*likes this reply*
Jan 10th 2020
154
great points, as always.
Jan 10th 2020
156
      Lol, thx. And I hear ya. Just one point re: where we disagree
Jan 10th 2020
158
Oh an btw, if Bernie and/or the far left is finally acknowledging that
Jan 10th 2020
155
Why are we watching the 2 least remarkable candidates?
Jan 10th 2020
153
Yea, I know. I'm floored by how remarkable Biden's candidacy is
Jan 10th 2020
157
who do you believe?
Jan 13th 2020
159
Warren
Jan 13th 2020
160
The timing of this isn't peculiar at all, is it?
Jan 13th 2020
161
Vex come out to play....ugly and desperate- u describing warren
Feb 18th 2020
545
Bernie, obviously.
Jan 13th 2020
163
You were saying?
Jan 13th 2020
178
CNN’s Sanders Hit Piece Doesn’t Pass the Smell Test - FAIR
Jan 13th 2020
164
shit, didn't catch that this was about her saying this is what happened
Jan 13th 2020
165
bernie on the topic back when she was a republican
Jan 13th 2020
166
Those are different questions though
Jan 13th 2020
169
Warren went on record and confirmed it
Jan 13th 2020
168
Even before Warren confirmed, I definitely did not believe Bernie.
Jan 13th 2020
170
You going too far
Jan 13th 2020
171
Thank you for sharing your opinion. We disagree.
Jan 13th 2020
172
      Welcome
Jan 13th 2020
174
I think your reaction to this proves that this doesn't move the needle m...
Jan 13th 2020
173
      You movin the goal post
Jan 13th 2020
175
      !!!!
Jan 13th 2020
179
      That vague quote was sufficient for you?
Jan 13th 2020
180
           whats vague about : ‘he said he didn’t think a woman could win, I
Jan 13th 2020
184
           Because she didn't say what he actually said.
Jan 13th 2020
186
           It's not vague if she corroborates the sources for the story
Jan 14th 2020
202
      I agree, actually lol. I don't think it will move the needle much either...
Jan 13th 2020
176
      Yea I know another Pete supporter who is always on edge
Jan 13th 2020
183
           Wow lol. So personal and str8 out of trump’s twitter:
Jan 13th 2020
188
                So you're cool with Warren appropriating Indigenous people
Jan 14th 2020
189
                     :-/
Jan 14th 2020
192
                     welp lol
Jan 23rd 2020
457
                     vex come out to play, certainly this can’t be who u would want to be
Feb 18th 2020
546
                     ^^^this is who you want to be “kingmaker”?
Mar 06th 2020
610
                     smh he uses Trump talking points to go after Warren a few weeks ago
Mar 06th 2020
612
                          Ok ur eyes are clear too. He’s calling me a liar for point this out lm...
Mar 06th 2020
613
      With you on all this.
Jan 14th 2020
199
LET'S ARGUEEEEEEEE
Jan 13th 2020
177
obv no way to know for sure but I'm leaning Bernie
Jan 13th 2020
181
? Are you aware that warren confirmed that was said. Explicitly
Jan 13th 2020
185
      lol are you even listening to yourself?
Jan 14th 2020
190
      She clearly noted that they disagreed about *that*, which likeminded
Jan 14th 2020
193
           Yep
Jan 14th 2020
194
           lol how is that not a personal attack?
Jan 14th 2020
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           100%
Jan 14th 2020
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           RE: she managed to not personally attack him
Jan 14th 2020
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                Whatever y’all are attributing to her directly and as her motives is
Jan 14th 2020
241
                     There's enough evidence in the public space to refute the claim
Jan 16th 2020
302
      Sure. just as I'm aware he denies saying it
Jan 14th 2020
195
Paul Begala *and* Joe Lockhart are my TV right now
Jan 14th 2020
196
They both lying but him more than her.
Jan 14th 2020
216
Bernie.
Jan 15th 2020
259
After seeing and hearing the hot mic audio, Warren seems sincere.
Jan 16th 2020
307
      Oh please. She knew the mic was on. And maybe even ...
Jan 16th 2020
308
Dammit. Wrong post. Sorry
Jan 13th 2020
167
warren is my top choice but I prefer Bernie to Biden or mayor Pete
Jan 13th 2020
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RE: warren is my top choice but I prefer Bernie to Biden or mayor Pete
Jan 14th 2020
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      RE: warren is my top choice but I prefer Bernie to Biden or mayor Pete
Jan 14th 2020
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           RE: warren is my top choice but I prefer Bernie to Biden or mayor Pete
Jan 14th 2020
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                He's calling her limited
Jan 14th 2020
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                     Vex isn't a sexist- he loves his mom
Jan 14th 2020
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                          True
Jan 14th 2020
217
                          Dog, we know you hate Bernie, but chill.
Jan 14th 2020
221
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 14th 2020
238
Yikes, some of these replies are bizarro world...and trumpian
Jan 13th 2020
187
Yep bizarro world
Jan 14th 2020
203
oh gtfoh, lol
Jan 14th 2020
209
      Nah
Jan 14th 2020
210
           You're taking mansplaining to a whole new level: Why do you believe
Jan 14th 2020
214
                Welcome to message board
Jan 14th 2020
218
                     This is weird. We were literally both arguing in favor of Warren but
Jan 14th 2020
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                          LOL it's not ok to make ridiculous comments just because you agree
Jan 14th 2020
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                               Ohhh, you just don't UNDERSTAND what I mean.. ok, all good lol
Jan 14th 2020
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                                    I understand
Jan 14th 2020
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                                         No, you honestly don't.
Jan 14th 2020
229
                                              Yes I do
Jan 14th 2020
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                                                   No, seriously, you don't lol. It's ok tho and it might even be my fault.
Jan 14th 2020
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                                                        Ok
Jan 14th 2020
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lol trumpian
Jan 14th 2020
215
blah i dont like this
Jan 14th 2020
205
This 100%
Jan 14th 2020
212
All of this
Jan 14th 2020
239
Agreed.
Jan 17th 2020
346
i hope bernie and liz dead this shit on live tv during the debate.
Jan 14th 2020
207
Biden is the clear beneficiary of this
Jan 14th 2020
208
Was just chatting with a friend about this. Very, very, important foreig...
Jan 14th 2020
211
Exactly. If this overshadows substantive debate on Iran/FP
Jan 14th 2020
222
RE: Biden is the clear beneficiary of this
Jan 14th 2020
220
      Beyond the troubling implications of this, the strategy is horrible
Jan 14th 2020
223
           RE: Beyond the troubling implications of this, the strategy is horrible
Jan 14th 2020
225
and of course CNN* only served to make it worse
Jan 15th 2020
260
Its just locker room talk
Jan 14th 2020
219
What's with all the "Bernie's A Misogynist" Talk?
Jan 14th 2020
230
Lookup Bernie's rape essays.
Jan 14th 2020
235
bad history with women? what do you mean?
Jan 14th 2020
237
it's the third comment on twitter from who?
Jan 14th 2020
244
They can fill libraries with all the things you haven't seen...and they ...
Jan 15th 2020
264
      cool, zero examples.
Jan 27th 2020
477
bernie threw his weight/influence behind an anti-abortion candidate.
Jan 14th 2020
248
Ha, the walkback begins after this backfired on Warren
Jan 14th 2020
234
yea it's pretty clear that this isn't playing well with voters
Jan 14th 2020
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no What’s clear is that Bernie’s rabid and vocal supporters are suck...
Jan 14th 2020
240
the beauty is all we have to do is wait and see how this plays out
Jan 14th 2020
247
Warren is my preferred president of the bunch
Jan 14th 2020
242
Agreed. As stated in the original post
Jan 14th 2020
246
IT ISN'T PLAYING WELL WITH VOTERRRRRRRSSSSSSS
Jan 14th 2020
243
let's find one example of you ever "coalescing progressives"
Jan 14th 2020
245
Yeah, you guys put that bitch in her place, didn't you!
Jan 14th 2020
249
The Story Elizabeth Warren Isn't Telling (The Atlantic)
Jan 14th 2020
250
damn...maybe she can help convert more people in their 40s
Jan 15th 2020
276
nice oppo swipe
Feb 18th 2020
547
I'ont like the way Warren is trying to flip this
Jan 14th 2020
251
Oh, I thought that was charming
Jan 14th 2020
252
CNN is basically a Warren campaign proxy tonight lol
Jan 14th 2020
253
if I were to wager who they wanted the most, it's not Warren.
Jan 15th 2020
262
yea you're right.
Jan 15th 2020
267
      i feel like they see the writing on the wall with biden
Jan 15th 2020
271
I think it's more of...anybody but Bernie
Jan 15th 2020
263
Thankfully, barely anyone can stomach to sit through these debates
Jan 15th 2020
268
definitely seemed like
Jan 15th 2020
266
      and you're not even a Sanders supporter, right?
Jan 15th 2020
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           if i voted only with my heart it would be a bernie vote
Jan 15th 2020
272
                well-said
Jan 15th 2020
279
                     its not a move i would have made but i obviously dont run campaigns
Jan 15th 2020
280
i hate how this is prolly gonna overshadow the parnas leaks tonight.
Jan 14th 2020
254
The leaks will still get play
Jan 14th 2020
255
iono fam. this alone will prolly fill up the news cycle for a week:
Jan 14th 2020
256
      Steyer get your punk ass out of the way
Jan 15th 2020
258
Bernie should have boycotted the debate, he never gets a fair shot with
Jan 15th 2020
257
      I legit thought you were serious for a second
Jan 15th 2020
277
nope, it's quite Clintonian
Jan 15th 2020
261
Imagine if a man refused to shake a woman's hand post debate
Jan 15th 2020
265
These fucking cunts, right?!
Jan 15th 2020
269
LOL its like they can't consider for a second
Jan 15th 2020
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      i definitely wouldnt be surprised if shes holding back
Jan 15th 2020
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      denzelboom.gif
Jan 15th 2020
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      ^^^^
Jan 15th 2020
282
ITWAM
Jan 15th 2020
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audio of their exchange caught by mics
Jan 15th 2020
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      Warren confronted him
Jan 15th 2020
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      Watching that really drives home that she was really shocked and
Jan 15th 2020
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      Exactly
Jan 15th 2020
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      she def stepped to him like a nigga that did indeed say that shit.
Jan 15th 2020
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      Lmao. She def did. She had the hands clasped and everything
Jan 16th 2020
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      Steyer’s reaction makes me laugh everytime. And good for him being
Jan 16th 2020
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           He said it was a "treat" to meet Bernie lol.
Jan 16th 2020
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                that had me dying
Jan 16th 2020
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                     LOL
Jan 16th 2020
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      LOL@more shit Bernie didn't say
Jan 16th 2020
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           Correct.
Jan 16th 2020
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           motherfuckers falling for the kayfabe, you love to see it
Jan 16th 2020
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                Actually, I don't
Jan 16th 2020
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                     sarcasm but yeah
Jan 19th 2020
370
CNN trying to create a rift and Liz fell of it...
Jan 15th 2020
275
He had a right to refuse to answer that question in the affirmative
Jan 16th 2020
294
IMO, she shouldn't have taken the bait
Jan 16th 2020
299
      RE: Tom Boody/Cheatriots
Jan 16th 2020
300
           Baseball culture is more puritanical though
Jan 16th 2020
303
she’s mad at Bernie for calling her a liar whilst calling him a liar?
Jan 15th 2020
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Something he strangely didn’t seem bothered by at all. U call me a
Jan 15th 2020
288
He had a retort too like 'actually' but instead said
Jan 16th 2020
293
      ^^^ exactly
Jan 16th 2020
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      likely scenario:
Jan 16th 2020
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      approached dude aggressive too..on some "let's make sure they see this"
Jan 16th 2020
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           100%
Jan 16th 2020
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           shes terrible at the only thing Trump is good at
Jan 16th 2020
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           I like CNN stringing the story out for a full day
Jan 16th 2020
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           Exactly - that ambush was scripted - as were the CNN "journalists"
Jan 16th 2020
311
                that ambush was scripted - so warren faked that ambush too.
Mar 06th 2020
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Btw: this post was originally authored in August of 2019
Jan 16th 2020
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On the Elizabeth Warren minority voter problem
Jan 16th 2020
313
      What ? Using Trumps rhetoric
Jan 16th 2020
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      RE: What ? Using Trumps rhetoric
Jan 16th 2020
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           Sanders better focus on Biden
Jan 16th 2020
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      young Black women LOVE lizzy. Not sure about sanders but I love
Jan 17th 2020
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           Here's a poll from 12.8 that disagrees
Jan 17th 2020
322
                Oh ok. Just for the record I have zero interest in trying to convince
Jan 17th 2020
326
                     He already thanked you for the anecdotes ..
Jan 17th 2020
327
                     So now we're just saying "well I know people" to override actual data?
Jan 17th 2020
328
                          Haha.. of course people who like Warren will know people who like her
Jan 17th 2020
329
                          bentagain: "Polling consistently shows Warren has a problem with ...
Jan 17th 2020
331
Can anyone show me where the Bernie folks went after male as hard
Jan 17th 2020
320
i honestly dont think theyve ever gone that hard at trump.
Jan 17th 2020
321
^^^
Jan 17th 2020
324
not nearly as hard as you go at Bernie waving the #NeverSanders flag
Jan 17th 2020
330
      What is the definition for “going hard”
Jan 17th 2020
332
      RE: What is the definition for “going hard”
Jan 17th 2020
338
      you just gonna make a career outta being the LOUD AND WRONG GUY
Jan 17th 2020
339
      Oh damn you went into the vaults lol
Jan 17th 2020
340
           yeah fam i coulda swore we had convos about this
Jan 17th 2020
343
                Yep - I was def a Bernie Bro. And still am to the extent that you mentio...
Jan 17th 2020
349
                RE: yeah fam i coulda swore we had convos about this
Jan 17th 2020
353
                     It's like a whole different world and life these last 4 years.
Jan 17th 2020
355
                          RE: It's like a whole different world and life these last 4 years.
Jan 19th 2020
366
      When do I or anyone say never sanders? I like him enough and think
Jan 17th 2020
347
I mean from observing they go after Mayo, Yang, and Biden pretty hard
Jan 17th 2020
323
I just haven’t seen it. Just being honest. The snakes and neverwarren
Jan 17th 2020
325
      I agree and Biden is the front runner
Jan 17th 2020
333
           RE: I agree and Biden is the front runner
Jan 17th 2020
337
                RE: I agree and Biden is the front runner
Jan 17th 2020
342
                Bernie is really not the problem, you are. and other supporters like you...
Jan 17th 2020
344
                     LOL what
Jan 17th 2020
350
                     LOL you're mad af.
Jan 17th 2020
352
                          Not mad. Repulsed. Ur rabid
Jan 18th 2020
356
                          Why aren’t Bernie Bros attacking Biden (c) Lizzo stans
Jan 18th 2020
359
I honestly haven't. not sure how much of it is situational though
Jan 17th 2020
335
I need someone to do this poll.
Jan 17th 2020
334
Id be scared to see the results
Jan 17th 2020
336
I actually don't think this will be significant
Jan 17th 2020
341
I mean it happened it 16...25% of sanders voters in the DEM primary
Jan 17th 2020
345
Who needs polls like that when you can blame the iron sickle cyclops?
Jan 17th 2020
348
      LOL
Jan 17th 2020
354
Sanders gets a boost; Warren slips in first post-debate polls
Jan 17th 2020
351
The whole Bernie said this in 2018
Jan 18th 2020
357
      I am a Warren supporter and it was not a good move.
Jan 18th 2020
358
      RE: I am a Warren supporter and it was not a good move.
Jan 19th 2020
361
      yea it's been real disgraceful to see how it's been played by Warren
Jan 19th 2020
364
Sanders campaign researched possibility of dual VP/Treasury secretary
Jan 18th 2020
360
Sanders team "ATTACKS" Biden on social security
Jan 19th 2020
362
Months later
Jan 19th 2020
363
Yea clearly you haven't been paying attention
Jan 19th 2020
365
      Nah you are letting Warren take up all your attention
Jan 19th 2020
367
           Again, if you just started following the primary two weeks ago
Jan 19th 2020
368
                lmao wrong again
Jan 19th 2020
369
                     Wow. You’re really bad at this
Jan 19th 2020
371
                     You sound desperate
Jan 19th 2020
372
                     Ur such a privileged white know it all. Tell us the errors of our ways
Jan 20th 2020
375
                          when all else fails, tribe & divide.
Jan 20th 2020
376
                               this is how you respond to being called on your white privilege?
Jan 22nd 2020
405
                                    what would've been an appropriate response to that?
Jan 22nd 2020
414
                     doesn't "take a more aggressive stance" imply that
Jan 20th 2020
378
                          It implies a weak or soft stance
Jan 20th 2020
379
                          yea that's what really bad about these Johnny Come Lately "analysts"
Jan 22nd 2020
415
Lol as I said, Bernie has been on message. But hopefully u rabid
Jan 20th 2020
373
this feeds right into the sanders campaign’s talking points! (Ny times...
Jan 20th 2020
374
Pramila Jayapal endorses Sanders
Jan 20th 2020
377
they are. and with the impeachment hearings requiring both in DC
Jan 20th 2020
380
      No doubt. Sanders has amassed an impressive field of surrogates
Jan 22nd 2020
382
BBs: is warren ok now that Bernie and her were laughing and arm n
Jan 22nd 2020
381
If Warren doesn’t finish top 3 in Iowa
Jan 22nd 2020
383
That can’t be a real question.
Jan 22nd 2020
385
!!!! Certainly none of the top 4.
Jan 22nd 2020
387
      they call for Warren to drop out before Yang, Tulsi, etc
Jan 22nd 2020
392
No need to curse or get nasty, ur being such a Bernie bro, bro....and
Jan 22nd 2020
386
if Warren doesn't WIN Iowa she should commit seppuku
Jan 22nd 2020
409
      lmaoooo
Jan 23rd 2020
421
she knew she was wrong..
Jan 22nd 2020
384
oh please. I can see y’all really just want that b*tch to go away and
Jan 22nd 2020
388
      naw, that wack ass virtue signaling see thru and she would be DESTROYED
Jan 22nd 2020
389
      lol now thats some quality trolling
Jan 22nd 2020
390
      You're in here
Jan 22nd 2020
393
      Lol at “y’all” — so pressed
Jan 22nd 2020
398
           no one has called her a bitch...
Jan 22nd 2020
406
                yea it's beyond cheap
Jan 22nd 2020
413
                oh It’s in the atmosphere. It’s on the tip of all the BBs tongues. T...
Jan 23rd 2020
431
she aint getting the nom tho
Jan 22nd 2020
395
      maybe Not. A lot can change tho. Doubt sanders will get it either
Jan 22nd 2020
402
didn't watch last week's debate but watching some of these clips. yikes
Jan 22nd 2020
391
Fam it was disgraceful.
Jan 22nd 2020
396
For-profit news outlets probably shouldn't get debates
Jan 22nd 2020
397
yikes! Warren continues to plummet to a distant third
Jan 22nd 2020
394
https://media.giphy.com/media/cysC0vt63VQZ2/giphy.gif
Jan 22nd 2020
399
Separating you guys from Trumpers is getting harder and harder to do.
Jan 22nd 2020
400
U see it! Deplorables. Trapped in their own toxic world
Jan 22nd 2020
401
The whole press is out to get them!
Jan 22nd 2020
403
      Lol so mad and wrong - and I’m here for it.
Jan 22nd 2020
404
Warren's camp takes a shot at Bernie
Jan 22nd 2020
407
not just about the polls...but since you bring up polls
Jan 22nd 2020
410
and betting markets are saying:
Jan 22nd 2020
417
damn biden is leading in 4 outta 5 early states
Jan 22nd 2020
418
don't even waste your breath fam
Jan 22nd 2020
412
its been frustrating and disappointing to see it play out
Jan 22nd 2020
408
LOL I love this.
Jan 22nd 2020
411
it is kinda funny how confused they are when you arent blindly loyal
Jan 22nd 2020
420
theres a lot of self assuring and bubble blowing on the left of the left...
Jan 22nd 2020
419
So what is causing her recent slump? The debate performance?
Jan 23rd 2020
422
      What "recent" slump?
Jan 23rd 2020
425
           I appreciate the detailed answer
Jan 23rd 2020
427
           yeah her support was heavily reliant on college educated whites
Jan 23rd 2020
434
you hate to see it 😆
Jan 22nd 2020
416
Bernie Sanders surges into first in CNN national poll
Jan 23rd 2020
423
same poll shows bloomberg performing better than bernie against trump.
Jan 23rd 2020
432
      Same poll shows bloomberg performing *the same as* bernie against trump.
Jan 23rd 2020
437
           you harping on margin of error?
Jan 23rd 2020
438
                Exactly!
Jan 23rd 2020
440
                     It seems like that was Reeq's point from the start, though.
Jan 23rd 2020
441
                          Cool. If that's the case, then the same applies to the other headline
Jan 23rd 2020
442
                               On that, we completely agree.
Jan 23rd 2020
444
                                    True. And for that reason I only make a fuss when it's close
Jan 23rd 2020
446
S. Carolina elected official now backing Sanders over Biden
Jan 23rd 2020
424
LOL at "elected official."
Jan 23rd 2020
426
I mean, it's pretty well known that the exact demographic
Jan 23rd 2020
428
also interesting to see them tout the support of a conservative dem.
Jan 23rd 2020
430
      Yes, the support of a conservative dem is the point of posting the artic...
Jan 23rd 2020
433
      but they consistently trash conservative dems.
Jan 23rd 2020
435
           I get you.
Jan 23rd 2020
436
      she's also Black, so there's at least a modicum of sense involved
Jan 24th 2020
466
Goodness. What a headline. Watershed moment for sure
Jan 23rd 2020
429
Don't forget: the 'mainstream media' is trying to stop Bernie!
Jan 23rd 2020
439
Another example of how many here can’t be objective
Jan 23rd 2020
443
      This just in! Bernie has a black friend!
Jan 23rd 2020
445
           LOL!!!!
Jan 23rd 2020
450
           Dude
Jan 23rd 2020
453
           He sure does have a lot of Black voters
Jan 23rd 2020
456
                note: this was also done to Obama in 2008.
Jan 24th 2020
467
                Yep. Never forget the Clinton islamophibic Hail Mary either
Jan 25th 2020
470
                Poor Vex lol.
Mar 06th 2020
615
If Bernie promised a Warren as head of treasury and had a young POC
Jan 23rd 2020
447
Lmao at enthusiastically voting if he does everything you want.. lol
Jan 23rd 2020
448
Isn't that (at least theoretically) exactly the point ?!
Jan 23rd 2020
449
thats 2 dem senators being replaced by repub governors
Jan 23rd 2020
451
damn bruh
Jan 23rd 2020
454
      Yep. But true.
Jan 23rd 2020
455
RE: reply 360
Jan 23rd 2020
452
that was on the table before she lied and backstabbed him...
Jan 23rd 2020
461
      LOL, "lied and backstabbed" him.
Jan 23rd 2020
463
the bernie bros and warren woes trenches are dug in deep
Jan 23rd 2020
458
This was a refreshing read
Jan 23rd 2020
459
Anybody interested in a palate cleanser?
Jan 23rd 2020
460
Nothing cleanses the palate like some good old fashioned
Jan 23rd 2020
462
Lol. Is he supposed to be responsible for everything McKinsey has ever d...
Jan 23rd 2020
465
Tulsi Gabbard Sues for Hillary Clintion for Attention and 50 million
Jan 23rd 2020
464
SMH. Tulsi gotta go on 'hit dog' mode for nothing
Jan 24th 2020
468
      She gotta get that Fox show locked down
Jan 25th 2020
471
NYT: Sanders Seizes Lead in Volatile Iowa Race
Jan 25th 2020
469
yup, he's become the frontrunner
Jan 25th 2020
472
feel the beeern
Jan 25th 2020
473
.
Jan 26th 2020
474
its really starting to look like its biden vs bernie
Jan 27th 2020
475
Until it’s not lol. What did polls show before the Iowa caucus in 08?
Jan 27th 2020
476
oops, i thought i said "if the polls are accurate"
Jan 27th 2020
480
you should look back at previous elections
Jan 27th 2020
478
      going back to 2000 the one leading in polls in the last wk won in iowa
Jan 27th 2020
481
Bernie Sanders and His Internet Army (NYT LOOOONG SWIPE)
Jan 27th 2020
479
Damn
Jan 27th 2020
482
its a problem, and he needs to do more
Jan 27th 2020
483
      What would you suggest?
Jan 28th 2020
484
      Sure they can (if they are leaders)
Jan 28th 2020
485
      ^^^^^^ and he’s already done it with zephyr
Jan 28th 2020
486
      ^^^^^^ yep
Jan 28th 2020
487
      Well then he is a figurehead... because it ain’t happening.
Jan 28th 2020
490
      Here's a helpful trick for the Bernie fans:
Jan 28th 2020
488
           I’m not a Bernie fan
Jan 28th 2020
489
           don't hire and/or promote the people who lead the groups
Jan 28th 2020
500
           Maybe don't try to turn extremists into your supporters.
Jan 28th 2020
504
                Is Bernie living in Waco in a compound?
Jan 29th 2020
510
                     You're the one who said some of his supporters are "extremists."
Jan 29th 2020
511
           There were clear dog whistles Trump was using at rallies
Jan 28th 2020
491
           ^this. Trump is no better than his supporters. in most cases even worse
Jan 28th 2020
493
           This *should* be obvious.
Jan 28th 2020
494
           Lmao.. the Trump comparison is so lazy.
Jan 28th 2020
497
           sure but there are similarities in the cult-like approach
Jan 28th 2020
505
                I'm mostly referring to the media response to "Bernie bros" ...
Jan 29th 2020
508
           Apprehensiveness about their future? What ?
Jan 28th 2020
496
           to be fair, Trump egged on his cult
Jan 28th 2020
492
                What did Obama say? “I can’t control who likes me, Hillary”
Jan 28th 2020
495
                Lol you mean right before he publicly denounced Farrakhan?
Jan 28th 2020
499
                     You missed the point.
Jan 29th 2020
507
                     you used that quote. isnt that what it was in reference to?
Jan 29th 2020
523
                          The point is a politician can’t control who likes them nor how they ac...
Jan 29th 2020
533
                               your sig always gets me, man lol
Jan 29th 2020
534
                     Hilary campaigned on hopes of Obama's assasination..
Jan 29th 2020
509
                          not sure what that has to do with anything but
Jan 29th 2020
525
                Yes but to be fair again: it's easy for us to see how Trump eggs them on...
Jan 28th 2020
503
                     great points. I am curious about your characterization of bro-ism
Jan 29th 2020
513
                          yeah it gets hard to dismiss bernie fans' gripe with the msm.
Jan 29th 2020
529
      I think he knows that a lot of people are mad.
Jan 28th 2020
498
           100% agree on the demographic points
Jan 28th 2020
501
           who exactly has said there aren't women who like bernie?
Jan 28th 2020
502
           ^^^
Jan 29th 2020
512
           Yep.
Jan 29th 2020
514
           Bernie could possibly be at 40% if the BBs were muzzled.
Jan 29th 2020
515
                Do you have any evidence of this, at all ? Or are these just words ?
Jan 29th 2020
516
                Right? I’m sure they turn off people who support other candidates
Jan 29th 2020
522
                i only hear about BBs on OKP
Jan 29th 2020
536
                     Everyone else you talk to is a Bernie Bro.
Jan 29th 2020
537
                I know of several man
Jan 29th 2020
527
                     I want to be clear on this: you actually know people who ...
Jan 29th 2020
528
                          LOL
Jan 29th 2020
530
                          Don’t expect a direct answer to your question lol
Jan 29th 2020
532
                               I said "LOL" and then vex wrote fanfic about...something
Jan 29th 2020
535
                          Pat Cipollone over here.
Jan 29th 2020
531
                Yep
Jan 29th 2020
518
Bern #1 in NH poll
Jan 29th 2020
506
Biden leads in Iowa, with Sanders in close second
Jan 29th 2020
517
The second choice thing could be critical.
Jan 29th 2020
519
      That was my takeaway
Jan 29th 2020
520
      I'm looking forward to the tweetstorms calling the Iowa party snakes.
Jan 29th 2020
524
           lol
Jan 29th 2020
526
      thats a good point
Jan 29th 2020
521
      wrong again:
Feb 12th 2020
540
brown shirts (c) chuck todd
Feb 11th 2020
538
Report card time, once again (Oh how I love this)
Feb 12th 2020
539
I was 100% wrong on Biden. I thought he and Bernie would fight it out
Feb 12th 2020
541
      Respect.
Feb 12th 2020
542
           I’m not a Biden fan, just thought he had the best shot due to old whit...
Feb 12th 2020
543
                looks like Biden's firewall in South Carolina has already crumbled
Feb 14th 2020
544
^^^ Mijente endorses Sanders
Feb 20th 2020
548
#yosoyunbro
Feb 20th 2020
549
      #bermanos
Feb 20th 2020
550
           fuck i kinda love it. #sisepuede
Feb 20th 2020
552
           Berniefoos
Feb 20th 2020
554
                https://images.app.goo.gl/zqea7vCEnUf2uLjQ6
Feb 20th 2020
556
                     lol u stupid, foo
Feb 20th 2020
557
                     lol u stupid, foo
Feb 20th 2020
558
                     #holmesnotfoo
Feb 20th 2020
559
           this could catch on
Feb 20th 2020
555
Warren flips on Super PACs
Feb 20th 2020
551
About what we should expect from a former Republican..
Feb 20th 2020
553
bernie supporters who clown 'establishment' dems for blaming russia
Feb 20th 2020
560
thats called a bernie hawk 900º
Feb 20th 2020
561
nice.
Feb 20th 2020
562
its astonishing to witness, man
Feb 20th 2020
563
okay, educate me a bit
Feb 20th 2020
564
RE: okay, educate me a bit
Feb 21st 2020
581
      got ya, thanks
Feb 24th 2020
598
if you notice...he doesnt really have any slick/witty answers
Feb 20th 2020
565
      Bernie is best when he is able to say “I wrote the damn bill” over a...
Feb 20th 2020
567
      and again we should all be concerned about winning
Feb 21st 2020
582
the article in your link actually says...FB deactivated accounts
Feb 21st 2020
569
Interesting catch. Should his campaign prioritize and allocate
Feb 21st 2020
570
How Sway!?!
Feb 21st 2020
575
      I'm playing devil's advocate, because his critics keep saying he's
Feb 21st 2020
579
           what’s being done about Charlie Kirk’s 52% tax rate meme?
Feb 24th 2020
597
lol right.
Feb 21st 2020
572
The article says "some of the most divisive tweets and memes..."
Feb 21st 2020
577
      Pete’s campaign did appear to be compromised by it’s
Feb 21st 2020
580
Sanders briefed by U.S. off. that Russia is trying to help his pres camp...
Feb 21st 2020
583
      "Russia *might* be trying again..." (c) Bernie ...he says...
Feb 21st 2020
584
i didn't watch the entire debate but warren
Feb 20th 2020
566
Agreed, bowser, London breed (sf), and Stacy Abrams all looking
Feb 21st 2020
571
He basically gave them hush money.
Feb 21st 2020
573
      disgusting
Feb 24th 2020
599
Talk of a brokered convention is heating up
Feb 20th 2020
568
thats unfortunate
Feb 21st 2020
574
Scared Bernie will win and show up on Wall St like this
Feb 21st 2020
576
lmao
Feb 21st 2020
578
they're planting the seed so that the dum-dums will go along with it
Feb 21st 2020
585
The one thing I do like about Sanders's messaging:
Feb 22nd 2020
586
Sanders dominating Nevada - precisely *because* of demographics
Feb 22nd 2020
587
the last dem president.
Feb 22nd 2020
588
      Exactly - who ran on a progressive platform.
Feb 22nd 2020
589
           obama ran on a progressive platform?
Feb 22nd 2020
590
                Relative to the field? Absolutely
Feb 22nd 2020
591
                     interesting. bernie wanted obama primaried/removed after only 2 years.
Feb 22nd 2020
592
                          RIGHT. Bernie was also one of the first to endorse
Feb 22nd 2020
593
                          before it was popular? bernie didnt endorse obama
Feb 23rd 2020
594
                               Damn
Feb 23rd 2020
595
                          lol still trying to unearth ancient petty beefs from a decade ago?
Feb 23rd 2020
596
Sanders Demographic data out of Nevada
Feb 25th 2020
600
29% of white vote ????????????????????
Feb 25th 2020
601
      those numbers were pretty odd
Feb 25th 2020
602
      how are they odd?
Feb 25th 2020
604
           they lacked context
Feb 25th 2020
607
      um. winning 30% of the vote in a jam-packed primary is significant
Feb 25th 2020
603
      OMG!!! Sanders struggles with white voters!!!
Feb 25th 2020
608
      The fuck does this mean?
Feb 25th 2020
606
I prefer Warren over Bernie but i'm cool with either
Feb 25th 2020
605
Bern is the 1st candidate to win the popular vote
Feb 27th 2020
609
cool I guess hang that on the wall this November?
Mar 06th 2020
611
There were 12 candidates at the time tho
Mar 06th 2020
616
will the school have an assembly for this award?
Mar 06th 2020
617

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