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Post puberty?

What would High School and College female sports look in 5 yrs like if biological males are granted full access to compete as females?

What would happen to scholarships, records, the spirit of fair competition?

Would you be upset if your daughter was unable to make a team or looses in a tournament to a biological male?

Or

Do you feel that this phenomenon is a new normal matter that's being into an issue for no reason?

Are people being insensitive?

Should gender specific sports be eliminated? If so, why and what would be the long-trem unintended consequences (negative and positive)?



House Democrats Vote to Let Boys Play on Girls’ Teams

Michael Foust | ChristianHeadlines.com Contributor | Friday, May 3, 2019

https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/house-democrats-vote-to-let-boys-play-on-girls-teams.html

House Democrats easily defeated an amendment this week that would have prevented biological females from being forced to compete against biological males in sporting events.

The amendment to the Equality Act by Republican Rep. Greg Steube of Florida was voted down Wednesday in the Democratic-controlled House Judiciary Committee, 22-10. Steube says he will bring the amendment back up on the floor.

Opponents and even supporters of the Equality Act warn the bill could forever harm female sports on the high school and collegiate level.

This week, three current or former female athletes – Doriane Coleman, Martina Navratilova and Sanya Richards-Ross – penned an editorial in The Washington Post asserting the bill “would make it unlawful to differentiate among girls and women in sports on the basis of sex for any purpose.” Navratilova’s stance is particularly noteworthy. She is a lesbian and has drawn loud criticism from the LGBT community for her stance.

Steube said his amendment would strengthen women’s sports.

“I’m offering this amendment today to ensure that our daughters are provided an equal playing field in sports for generations to come, and that female athletes are not competing against male athletes for athletic scholarships and Title IX funding,” Steube said. “... I want to guarantee that biological women are not forced to compete against biological men at all levels of athletic competition.”


Science, he said, “has proven time and time again that there is a significant performance difference between biological males and females from puberty onward.”

Steube referenced a biological male weightlifter who broke four female world records in a female competition. The weightlifter won all nine events in which he lifted.

“From percentage of lean muscle to heart size, body fat, and joint angles, the bodies of men and women are distinctly unique and produce a vast and tangible athletic performance differences. In fact, there is an average 10-12 percent performance gap between elite biological male and female athletes,” Steube said.

Coleman, Navratilova and Richards-Ross agreed, saying the “reality is that putting male- and female-bodied athletes together is co-ed or open sport.”

“And in open sport, females lose,” they wrote.

“Some Equality Act advocates argue that this is hyperbole and outdated stereotype,” the three women wrote. “They say, as the ACLU has, that there is ‘ample evidence that girls can compete and win against boys.’ They are wrong. The evidence is unequivocal that starting in puberty, in every sport except sailing, shooting and riding, there will always be significant numbers of boys and men who would beat the best girls and women in head-to-head competition. Claims to the contrary are simply a denial of science.”

The women noted that Team USA female sprinter Allyson Felix – who has won multiple world championships – has a lifetime best of 49.26 seconds in the 400 meters. But in 2018, 275 high school boys ran faster on 783 occasions.


“The sex differential isn’t the result of boys and men having a male gender identity, more resources, better training or superior discipline. It’s because they have androgenized bodies,” they wrote.


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No. It is not fair competition
May 06th 2019
1
Yes
May 06th 2019
2
RE: Yes EDITED my Response
May 06th 2019
3
      Part of it is language. “Born male” is a dog whistle that
May 06th 2019
4
      Since when is stating “Born male” is a dog whistle and not a fact fo...
May 06th 2019
6
           “Born male” then transitioned is *literally* the reason for the term...
May 06th 2019
22
           Folks want it all
May 06th 2019
42
                BRUH!
May 06th 2019
48
           Technically, it’s assigned male at birth.
May 06th 2019
59
           I disagree and that's ok too.
May 06th 2019
62
           10/10 counter points. N/m
May 06th 2019
91
           i think 'assigned' is a misnomer in many cases also and ...
May 09th 2019
151
                well, two things:
May 09th 2019
155
           Born male seems a little reductive but adding a word like 'biologically'
May 09th 2019
150
      Those questions are answered in my first response
May 06th 2019
7
           Not to argue. I just asked you more questions based on your response
May 06th 2019
10
No. Folks that think so are probably the *real* women haters
May 06th 2019
5
That mma/ufc transgendered who knocks women out
May 06th 2019
12
I just hope this discussion helps us realize, as a society,
May 06th 2019
8
*to you
May 06th 2019
11
Correct
May 06th 2019
13
i get sensitive when i see statements like that
May 06th 2019
15
No, I already realize it.
May 06th 2019
16
Can you see any benefits from competitive sports?
May 06th 2019
14
Not a one.
May 06th 2019
18
      I'm interested in your perspective. It's a valid position.
May 06th 2019
19
      Nope. Don't even really play chess.
May 06th 2019
53
           RE: Nope. Don't even really play chess.
May 15th 2019
161
                Good Points
May 15th 2019
162
      Join the marching band that plays at sporting events?
May 06th 2019
20
      If they didn't have to play at sporting events they'd have better music.
May 06th 2019
30
      oh its not more nuanced...fuck
May 06th 2019
21
      You expect someone to have a nuanced discussion with Case?
May 06th 2019
33
           reply 15...i thought your reply had more nuance
May 06th 2019
36
                Yeah, I saw it, but again, I was just responding to Case's arguments.
May 06th 2019
44
      Are you male? If not, I wouldn't expect you to fully get this
May 06th 2019
25
      Which one of these things is exclusive to sport?
May 06th 2019
37
      Ugh. I am male. But this brings us back to the OP.
May 06th 2019
38
      Females and males are inherently different. Of course there will be 'nor...
May 06th 2019
45
           How about understand people as individuals?
May 06th 2019
51
                Fuck yeah
May 06th 2019
71
                     Then again, they're all Bernie supporters.
May 06th 2019
72
                          Ha, fair enough
May 06th 2019
75
                          Bernie got the lion’s share of the 2016 youth primary Dem vote
Mar 19th 2022
410
      Wow. That was the dumbest possible response.
May 07th 2019
118
      Professor Frink, everyone.
May 09th 2019
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           Yeah, I'm rolling my eyes at basically that whole stream of cliches.
May 09th 2019
156
                Not sure where this animosity came from
May 10th 2019
160
It's enjoyable to play competitive sports
May 06th 2019
32
That is a valid point.
May 06th 2019
43
      RE: That is a valid point.
May 06th 2019
50
      *nods*
May 06th 2019
74
      I think there's is a case to be made on both sides
May 06th 2019
52
           The slope has slipped though
May 06th 2019
79
Also, to the extent this is about college admissions or scholarships,
May 06th 2019
46
they're a good outlet. Hope you mean the money part
May 06th 2019
61
No. I didn’t read the article either
May 06th 2019
9
I agree with you on the topic, but you could post real news sources
May 06th 2019
17
So the news is not valid because you don't know the source
May 06th 2019
23
LMAOOOOOOOO...
May 06th 2019
26
SMH. Thanks for posting.
May 06th 2019
27
so is that a yes or no to knowing what peer review means?
May 06th 2019
29
      You're right. It's not and you won't find that on most news sites
May 06th 2019
47
           I don't think you know what 'reputable' means either.
May 06th 2019
54
                Tell me why Salem Web Network is not a reputable organization?
May 06th 2019
58
                     I'm sure it's reputable to people who believe in the message/mission.
May 06th 2019
70
                     Because they gave Michelle Malkin a show.
May 06th 2019
85
                          Really... LOL I guess.
May 07th 2019
103
Hahahaha
May 06th 2019
31
It's no where near objective. And you post it asking for an objective
May 06th 2019
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      MSNBC is not objective either. They have a serious Pro Dem Agenda.
May 07th 2019
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      Exactly! On that note, WHATABOUT....
May 07th 2019
117
      That said, why do you agree with Case on the subject?
May 16th 2019
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^^^^
May 07th 2019
119
Nope, it's just not fair...
May 06th 2019
24
Yes if they're taking the necessary hormones for re-assignment
May 06th 2019
28
Hormones can't reverse 17 years of development
May 06th 2019
35
      They can and they do
May 06th 2019
39
           Nah
May 06th 2019
41
           please tell me how hormones reverse bone density?
Dec 15th 2021
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           please tell me how hormones reverse bone density?
Dec 15th 2021
371
           please tell me how hormones reverse bone density?
Dec 15th 2021
372
Of All things to be concerned about?
May 06th 2019
34
It’s sports.. so it’s something people worry about in Americ
May 06th 2019
40
Yes, but that doesn't mean it's right
May 06th 2019
57
      ^^
May 09th 2019
145
The concern is for young women to be able to compete in a safe, fun...
May 06th 2019
55
This is a non-issue that occurs so rarely that
May 06th 2019
56
      I agree that it's a pretty small issue. And it's 100% true...
May 06th 2019
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      ^^
May 09th 2019
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Yeah, it's an invented 'issue.'
May 06th 2019
63
      What are the Political reasons?
May 06th 2019
65
           Really?
May 06th 2019
66
           It plays into people's worse fears about a "gay agenda"
May 06th 2019
68
           they're not hidden lol
May 06th 2019
69
No.
May 06th 2019
49
maybe in balanced male female teams. 1 on 1 though hell no
May 06th 2019
60
No, but fuck these obvious agenda filled articles all the same
May 06th 2019
64
What's the agenda?
May 06th 2019
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      here's a snapshot of the world demorcatcs/liberals want for us
May 06th 2019
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           I'm not clicking that. I'm at work.
May 06th 2019
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                there's nothing to click lol
May 06th 2019
78
In the interest of legal fairness, yes.
May 06th 2019
67
As a person who has competed professionally I'll say what I've always sa...
May 06th 2019
80
CHRISTIANHEADLINES DOT COM
May 06th 2019
81
LOL. Yep.
May 06th 2019
82
So, what competitive sports do they allow you to compete in?
May 06th 2019
83
      the one where I pretend to be a christian
May 06th 2019
84
           None. Shame on them
May 06th 2019
87
Except for combat sports I don't care one way or another about trans-lad...
May 06th 2019
88
nope.
May 06th 2019
89
If you believe that trans athletes shouldn't complete in combat sports -...
May 06th 2019
92
Not at all
May 07th 2019
95
Yes, all the way.
May 07th 2019
102
RE: If you believe that trans athletes shouldn't complete in combat spor...
Jan 05th 2022
381
RE: If you believe that trans athletes shouldn't complete in combat spor...
Mar 19th 2022
411
Absolutely.
May 06th 2019
93
I thought they debunked the Einstein brain having more neurons
May 07th 2019
94
The NCAA has 26-28 yr olds competing against 18 yr olds
May 07th 2019
96
Yeah, that’s not the same thing
May 07th 2019
97
It's not, but similar enough
May 07th 2019
98
      How many times have we heard a college adult
May 07th 2019
100
lol. Are middle age Mormons dominating collegiate athletics?
May 07th 2019
99
      So are you ok with trans folks competing if they're not dominating?
May 07th 2019
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      Yeah
May 07th 2019
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      BYU XC thrives on this loophole
May 07th 2019
106
           Where's the evidence? I don't see old BYU athletes being especially good...
May 07th 2019
107
           Fair - we may have to wait on current classes
May 07th 2019
109
           Runner up the last 2 years is pretty good
May 07th 2019
111
                I'm looking at the competitiveness of the individual athletes
May 07th 2019
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           If there was a legit advantage you would see more athletes
May 07th 2019
108
           Most athletes aren't making money in the ncaa
May 07th 2019
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           The reason is that it's against NCAA (DI) rules
May 07th 2019
112
           But you can also play minor league baseball
May 07th 2019
115
           Real question, how many trans female athletes have you seen
May 07th 2019
121
                Admittedly I know of only one. But that shouldn't matter
May 07th 2019
123
                     but isn't your argument about BYU that it doesn't matter
May 08th 2019
135
                          Let me make it simple. Most sports are segmented by sex for a reason
May 16th 2019
167
                               Can you be specific about these advantages?
May 16th 2019
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           we act like athletes haven't been coming back from missions
Jun 23rd 2021
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                lol. Yes, those old Mormons dominating collegiate athletics lol
Jun 23rd 2021
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                     So, it's not an issue if it's not incredibly common?
Jul 01st 2021
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                          What is the difference between a 23 year old runner and a 25 year old?
Jul 01st 2021
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                               don't post in sports anymore
Aug 03rd 2021
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what happens if "a guy" is impotent
May 07th 2019
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThirstyTintedBrahmancow-small.gif
May 07th 2019
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Nothing happens
May 07th 2019
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so it doesn't affect anything...
May 07th 2019
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Are you equating impotence with genetic composition?
May 07th 2019
130
i guess, what is the composition of a man?
May 07th 2019
131
      A miserable little pile of secrets.
May 09th 2019
157
If a woman is sterile, does that make her an impotent man?
May 09th 2019
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      i don't know, should it?
May 09th 2019
141
we get it already, you wish to delegitimize transgender life
May 07th 2019
116
Dude, you need a mentor and a strong role model.
May 07th 2019
120
      way to deflect from my point that we both know is the case
May 07th 2019
125
      You love flossing these wild accusations.
May 07th 2019
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           "accusations" like this is a one off incident
May 08th 2019
133
                Dude, I'm free to talk about any subject I want
May 08th 2019
134
                     you figured it out. Im bisexual, gay or transitioning into a woman
May 09th 2019
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                          That's on you.
May 09th 2019
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                               .
May 09th 2019
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      RE: Dude, you need a mentor and a strong role model.
May 15th 2019
164
An Article Discussing the Impact of Transgender Boys In Female Sport
May 07th 2019
126
Dailysignal? You want to link Sto*mf*ont and #Chan next?
May 07th 2019
132
      Does the source negate the truth, facts, and experience of an event?
May 08th 2019
136
           The article contains the line:
May 09th 2019
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           So. That doesn't negate the facts of the story.
May 09th 2019
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                Are there facts in the story?
May 09th 2019
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                What do you depute?
May 09th 2019
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                     There's nothing to dispute. Opinions aren't facts
May 10th 2019
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                LMAOOOOOOO
May 09th 2019
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           Also, you know it's crap because they're talking about track
May 09th 2019
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           ^^^^^^^^^
Jun 29th 2021
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           it matters in weeding out who's trying to have an honest conversation
May 09th 2019
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May 07th 2019
127
Yes, but with caveats/safety measures in place
May 09th 2019
149
I can't speak on every sport but in combat sports--hard no.
May 09th 2019
158
If it gets us a step closer to ending this experiment called America
May 15th 2019
163
The liberal media machine is amazing, it literally has
May 15th 2019
165
IRL or on OKP?
May 16th 2019
168
      OKP used to be very IRL, but I guess it's like Twitter is now.
May 16th 2019
170
i thought someone upped a 2006 post
May 16th 2019
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Surprise! It's 2019... LOL
May 16th 2019
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UPDATE! Trans woman competed as a man in 2018 wins 19 NCAA track title
May 30th 2019
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This is an interesting take
May 30th 2019
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She was sandbagging
May 30th 2019
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      Looks that way. Folks need to be honest w/ themselves
May 30th 2019
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If she ran this time in Division 1 she doesn't make it out of quarterfin...
May 30th 2019
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      She was mediocre/below average as a man. One of the best as a woman
May 30th 2019
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      Shit is wild
May 30th 2019
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      Well that’s prolly why it was Div II
May 30th 2019
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I believe some advocates don't really get the science of it all.
May 30th 2019
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Those folks are talking about Caster Semenya
May 30th 2019
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      Good point. Thanks.
May 30th 2019
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      What they did to Caster Semenya is horrible too
May 30th 2019
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           Agreed - she's coming back as a 3000m runner though
May 30th 2019
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NZ Weightlifter to become first transgender athlete to compete at Olympi...
Jun 21st 2021
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Good luck to her, but ole girl from China is gonna wash the fuck out of ...
Jun 21st 2021
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Cough cough
Aug 02nd 2021
308
Another 10 years of or so and half the women’s olympic sports
Jun 21st 2021
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      and when it isn't
Jun 21st 2021
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           lol
Jun 21st 2021
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Not sure.. but I think women should be deciding the rules for this..
Jun 21st 2021
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Definitely!!!
Jun 21st 2021
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agreed...its their competition..let them decide if they are cool wth it.
Jun 21st 2021
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Do you consider trans women women?
Jun 21st 2021
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      I consider them trans women (while respecting preferred pronouns)
Jun 21st 2021
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           how do you check.
Jun 21st 2021
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                RE: how do you check.
Jun 22nd 2021
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                     that wasn't good enough for caster semenya
Jun 22nd 2021
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                          RJ whats your take? should a 200lb man who still has a penis and decides
Jun 22nd 2021
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                               is your hypothetical situation an actual problem?
Jun 22nd 2021
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                               also it's really not that complex of an issue
Jun 22nd 2021
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Can someone explain to me what the worst case scenario is?
Jun 22nd 2021
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Jason Collins in the WNBA?
Jun 22nd 2021
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imagine being this dumb of a fuck
Jun 22nd 2021
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why don't you tell us?
Jun 22nd 2021
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      because you don't pay me
Jun 22nd 2021
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I'm not sure I understand the reference?
Jun 22nd 2021
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      i thk he's suggesting that if collins at (appx) 7ft 260lbs up and...
Jun 22nd 2021
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           there were two collinses. that never happened.
Jun 22nd 2021
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                the question was "worst case scenario" not what happened genius
Jun 22nd 2021
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                     why specifically is that the worst case scenario?
Jun 22nd 2021
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                          its called an opinion, what do YOU think is worse?
Jun 23rd 2021
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                               thermonuclear war, obvs
Jun 23rd 2021
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women's athletics becomes a haven for failed male athletes
Jun 23rd 2021
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LOL
Jun 23rd 2021
217
Sounds like the voter fraud "problem" Republicans are trying to "fix"
Jun 23rd 2021
220
the idea that people born as men will soak up all the women's championsh...
Jun 23rd 2021
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white men are narcissistic sociopaths
Jun 23rd 2021
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      then let them do it.
Jun 23rd 2021
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      lol
Jun 23rd 2021
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      you have no idea what person or event you're talking about
Jun 23rd 2021
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      Hormone therapy has a huge effect on physical abilities
Jun 23rd 2021
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           if you've developed and trained as an adult male
Jun 23rd 2021
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                She was an elite weightlifter as a man and won't medal in Tokyo
Jun 23rd 2021
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                     ...is this supposed to be a counter-argument to what I typed above?
Jun 23rd 2021
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                          1) You said women's sports will be haven for failed, mediocre male athle...
Jun 24th 2021
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                               Yeah, you didn't understand my original points, lol
Jun 24th 2021
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                                    This is right up there with "you're the real racist"
Jun 25th 2021
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                                         oh shut the fuck up
Jun 25th 2021
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                                              we know what you are
Jun 25th 2021
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                                              Lol dude show me the line of men lining up to become trans women
Jun 29th 2021
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                                                   I'm not talking about trans folks in general
Jun 29th 2021
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                                                        The pointr shared below is also the more likely white sociopath one imo
Jul 01st 2021
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                                                             i'm sorry, I don't follow what you're saying here
Jul 01st 2021
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Then let it happen.
Jun 23rd 2021
223
      I feel like people that have daughters who compete in competitive sports...
Jun 23rd 2021
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           lol
Jun 23rd 2021
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                RE: lol
Jun 23rd 2021
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                     nope
Jun 23rd 2021
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                          RE: nope
Jun 23rd 2021
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                               if you acknowledge that you don't have any place in the discussion
Jun 23rd 2021
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                                    What is your place other than the board troll?
Jun 23rd 2021
244
                                         I'm around
Jun 24th 2021
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_69TQPNIac
Jan 04th 2022
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There should be an even playing field,
Jun 22nd 2021
201
Not sure what gender identity has to do with sexual preference
Jun 23rd 2021
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It doesn’t matter if it’s nature or nurture.
Jun 23rd 2021
233
      She didn't have a choice on her gender as a child
Jun 23rd 2021
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           There is no way they can let her race in the women’s division.
Jun 23rd 2021
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this is the bullshit argument they are making against Simone Biles
Jun 23rd 2021
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huh? Phelps is in an event where speed determines the winner
Jun 23rd 2021
219
Phelps has some sort of abnormal lungs that makes him a much better
Jun 24th 2021
252
      Exactly. Also consider differences in average height btwn populations
Jun 24th 2021
254
      lmao.. no, I don’t agree with this argument at all
Jun 28th 2021
276
Yeah, you do have a point in regards to black women.
Jun 23rd 2021
234
your definition of sex is woefully inadequate
Jun 23rd 2021
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You’re speaking of a syndrome, not a constant.
Jun 23rd 2021
240
???
Jun 23rd 2021
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      Well said.
Jun 23rd 2021
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      Your belief has nothing to do with natural law.
Jun 24th 2021
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           I don't think pathologizing sexual and gender minorities is helpful here...
Jun 24th 2021
251
           So you want to remove pretty much all opportunities for women in sports?
Jun 25th 2021
273
                Not at all.I think desegregating would expand opportunities not restrict
Jun 25th 2021
274
                     Again...good intentions, but completely divorced from reality.
Jun 28th 2021
278
                          You're still centering the sex binary.
Jun 28th 2021
282
                               Agree to disagree, I guess
Jun 29th 2021
288
           NOPE. Lets open the gates ALL the way.
Jun 24th 2021
257
                The logic is Bob Beamon?
Jun 24th 2021
258
                     people will adapt.
Jun 24th 2021
260
                          So you want to be reactive instead of proactive??
Jun 24th 2021
265
                               It’s from all the bootlickin’ homie
Jun 24th 2021
266
                               Pull that arm back Stretch Armstrong
Jun 24th 2021
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                                    Life NATURALLY plateaus unless it’s UNNATURALLY
Jun 24th 2021
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                                         cats are really going a long way to make sense of nonsense
Jun 28th 2021
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                                              these dudes in here want to see women get fucked all the way up
Jun 29th 2021
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I've always understood gender to be a social construct.
Jun 24th 2021
253
The prob with "scientific" exclusionary arguments like this is
Jun 24th 2021
250
      Castor Semenya wasn’t singled out. She singled herself out because
Jun 24th 2021
255
           This is a terrible argument.
Jun 24th 2021
256
                What’s terrible?
Jun 24th 2021
261
                     I never said she looks like a man. And I feel like you're making my pt.
Jun 24th 2021
262
                          This isn’t an attack on black women, and this isn’t necessarily a
Jun 24th 2021
264
                               Ok. I mean, ya, that's some compelling history.
Jun 24th 2021
269
                                    He looks like a man. Should be ashamed of himself. Need trans sports
Jun 26th 2021
275
You would probably feel different
Jun 28th 2021
277
Really? Do tell.
Jun 28th 2021
280
Yeah, you should.
Jun 29th 2021
284
      RE: Yeah, you should.
Jun 29th 2021
286
           Right. Additionally, that *one* MMA fight keeps getting brought up
Jun 29th 2021
292
                lol Im an MMA fan so i have a different perspective here
Jun 29th 2021
295
                     lol fair enough
Jun 29th 2021
297
how do you know your daughter isn't right now?
Jun 28th 2021
281
^^^^^^^^
Jun 29th 2021
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The better ques is how you'd feel if your daughter was the trans athlete...
Jun 28th 2021
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      ^^^ key point ^^^
Jun 29th 2021
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      I'd tell them that the world doesn't operate based upon how they feel
Jun 29th 2021
289
      lol
Jun 29th 2021
291
      I would feel the same way
Jun 29th 2021
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           it's not the breaks if a girl loses to someone who she suspects is trans...
Jul 01st 2021
305
Hell 2 tha no
Jul 01st 2021
299
If your daughter has short hair and wins at sports
Jul 01st 2021
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You're *never* gonna get people to address this
Jul 01st 2021
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      they just want to feel like they have someone to shit on
Jul 01st 2021
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No.
Aug 03rd 2021
310
Penn female swimmer speaks out against trans teammate
Dec 10th 2021
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And?
Dec 10th 2021
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when did Mikediggz have a bigger than sports rant?
Dec 10th 2021
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      i thought it was a pretty straight fwd qstn lol...should the teammate
Dec 10th 2021
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           its because deep down they know.. lol
Dec 10th 2021
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Yes they have reason for concern
Dec 10th 2021
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kinda hard to dispute from what i see
Dec 10th 2021
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well, if someone anonymously speaks to the ny post
Dec 11th 2021
318
relax good brother...a quick google search will show that the
Dec 11th 2021
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      oh, so if "legit" sites pick it up from the known bigots
Dec 11th 2021
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           but youre still drifting away from the main topic tho...with all that we...
Dec 11th 2021
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                lol.. but Fox Nooooze
Dec 12th 2021
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                I answered the question of you obsessing about the moisturization of my ...
Dec 12th 2021
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                it's not an actual question
Dec 12th 2021
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                     wow RJ thats really presumptive of you bro.
Dec 12th 2021
331
                          that's a lot of typing to say that I'm right
Dec 13th 2021
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                               if u perceive that as a win cool but that particular point is moot
Dec 13th 2021
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                                    like some said up above. When records are smashed
Dec 13th 2021
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                                    old girl is slated to be the GOAT
Dec 13th 2021
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                                         could be 40 seconds you still wouldn't care
Dec 13th 2021
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                                              sure to hear u tell it...not sure how u make these big assumptions
Dec 14th 2021
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                                                   I don't have to tell it, you agreed.
Dec 14th 2021
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                                                        i didnt agree that it could be 40 seconds i still wouldn't care
Dec 14th 2021
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                                                             there is no main issue b, we already talked about that
Dec 14th 2021
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                                    who said there's a win?
Dec 13th 2021
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                                         so im automatically a bigot if i at all question a one size fits all
Dec 14th 2021
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                                              but you knew he was coming - Jungle Fever
Dec 14th 2021
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                                                   yep. this situation is a case study that illustrates worst case
Dec 14th 2021
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this is pretty much common sense
Dec 11th 2021
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*passes beer around*
Dec 11th 2021
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Who gives a fuck??????????????????????????????
Dec 11th 2021
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parents of cisgender daughters?
Dec 12th 2021
328
so you think that men should be looking up your daughter's skirt
Dec 12th 2021
329
      how many daughters do you have?
Dec 12th 2021
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           I have just one son, he posts on OKP as ThaTruth
Dec 13th 2021
333
                So none?
Dec 13th 2021
339
                     he is like those anti CRT clowns with no kids at PTA meetings
Dec 13th 2021
340
                          so are you taking your daughters in for their femininity verification?
Dec 13th 2021
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                               their medical documents are already in the healthcare system
Dec 14th 2021
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                                    sorry bro, proof needed. send your daughters with dr. nassar to get chec...
Dec 14th 2021
365
                                         you sound real MAGA right now
Dec 22nd 2021
377
You see this response alot when the answer is obvious.
Dec 13th 2021
336
      such a weird response
Dec 13th 2021
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      Why?
Dec 13th 2021
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      RE: Why?
Dec 13th 2021
342
      what if they're jewish buddy?
Dec 13th 2021
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           ^^^Did not answer whether he has kidsq
Dec 14th 2021
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                now you know damn well the loudest people in these debates usually…
Dec 14th 2021
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                it would explain your obsession with genitals in general, and mine speci...
Dec 14th 2021
363
The Penn University situation is a disturbing one.
Dec 14th 2021
349
But this isn't driven by a desire to win at sports though
Dec 14th 2021
352
      you nailed it.
Dec 14th 2021
355
      There is a simple solution. Only naturally born women should
Dec 14th 2021
361
           Unless it’s physical contact its just numbers
Dec 14th 2021
366
      You’re incorrect. Winning plays a role, which was stated as much
Dec 14th 2021
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      They aint winning though.
Dec 14th 2021
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           Lot of winning going on in that snippet you posted lol
Dec 14th 2021
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           They aint.. she is.. lol
Dec 14th 2021
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                How you get a 14 second advantage and end up fourth
Dec 14th 2021
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           The other problem is you really can't win.
Dec 14th 2021
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No
Dec 15th 2021
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No
Dec 15th 2021
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Why didn't you say you were a woman???????????
Dec 21st 2021
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      RE: Why didn't you say you were a woman???????????
Jan 20th 2022
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Would have never guessed JEOPARDY! would have been next.
Dec 21st 2021
375
Here’s the physiological breakdown from an elite cyclist who transitio...
Jan 03rd 2022
378
Well, interesting but that is one individual case.
Jan 04th 2022
380
Interesting thread....long thread but worth the read. Check THIS out
Jan 20th 2022
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Lia Thomas wins an NCAA swimming national championship
Mar 17th 2022
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RE: Lia Thomas wins an NCAA swimming national championship
Mar 17th 2022
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Not what I was expecting at all
Mar 18th 2022
386
it's weird how you suddenly became a massive fan of women's college swim...
Mar 18th 2022
388
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-06/20/11/asset/buzz...
Mar 18th 2022
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      EVERY. TIME.
Mar 18th 2022
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      boy can't even say he's scared
Mar 18th 2022
393
      evergreen
Mar 18th 2022
395
is that a particularly fast time?
Mar 18th 2022
396
weird, all the swim fans seem to have disappeared
Mar 18th 2022
402
My older brother won a national championship at Univ of Texas
Mar 19th 2022
409
      what is disingenuous is comparing your brother's time to women's
Mar 20th 2022
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      She went from being ranked in the 500s to top 5 in the 200 free
Mar 20th 2022
416
           So, now you want to do an apple/oranges comparison over rankings?
Mar 20th 2022
417
                Actually, I don’t. It’s really not worth the back and forth.
Mar 20th 2022
418
                     not worth the back and forth...yet, here you are...back 'n forth'n it
Mar 20th 2022
419
      I don't know who you're talking to
Mar 21st 2022
423
That list is the top 10 women of all time. Not the 2019 championships
Mar 19th 2022
406
      please read what I typed
Mar 19th 2022
407
           Fair enough
Mar 20th 2022
414
                who said she isn't fast?
Mar 21st 2022
424
Lia Thomas finishes 8th in 100-yard freestyle
Mar 20th 2022
415
      UNFAIR BRUH
Mar 21st 2022
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           heh and not a peep from your fanclub on Thomas' loss(es) n/m
Mar 24th 2022
454
I say yes only out of spite
Mar 18th 2022
387
how many listens can hormones help you get on your soundcloud
Mar 18th 2022
389
      More than can they can help with your height
Mar 18th 2022
405
           you have the link right there fam
Mar 19th 2022
408
Anybody that disagrees with this issue is phobic.
Mar 18th 2022
390
who said that?
Mar 18th 2022
394
Imagine how weird it is to take the position that
Mar 18th 2022
397
I just don't get the compromise position on this
Mar 18th 2022
398
you can't reply to anyone because your argument is made up
Mar 18th 2022
400
      I can reply to anyone but you sorry. Read sig
Mar 18th 2022
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      bro, I'm the only person you are replying to
Mar 18th 2022
404
      ∆∆∆ did not and can not respond substantively
Mar 20th 2022
420
           I literally said that the people who run the sport are in the best place...
Mar 21st 2022
425
so you admit you don't give a shit about these sports
Mar 18th 2022
399
also it's pretty simple
Mar 18th 2022
401
This thread is pure, unadulterated trash.
Mar 20th 2022
412
Great arguments ITT:
Mar 21st 2022
421
why is katie ledecky allowed to swim much faster times thanks to her
Mar 21st 2022
422
lol
Mar 21st 2022
426
You ain't the only one copy-pasting shit from twitter.
Mar 21st 2022
428
      you don’t care about women like RJCC CARES about women
Mar 21st 2022
429
      yeah, you care about women a lot
Mar 21st 2022
430
           lmao.. the fact you think someone believes women are property says a lot
Mar 22nd 2022
433
           you don't actually reference any women other than your wife or daughter
Mar 22nd 2022
439
                damn bruh.. you lost a step. These replies are lazy af
Mar 22nd 2022
442
                     time to change the subject now that you realize you fucked up
Mar 22nd 2022
444
                          your “I’m rubber, your glue” response was so powerful
Mar 22nd 2022
446
                               it's funny how you haven't gone back to your original subject and you wo...
Apr 02nd 2022
515
           what's the basis for this?
Mar 22nd 2022
435
                His list of ways to hate and downgrade women is extremely detailed
Mar 22nd 2022
437
                ...your post suggests you've created a list
Mar 22nd 2022
438
                sorry if you haven't been reading
Mar 22nd 2022
440
                     so it's about your imagination version of what people are saying. got it...
Mar 22nd 2022
441
                          I know bb, it's difficult for you to look around and realize the losers
Mar 22nd 2022
443
                          bro, you're up there dropping hypotheticals about looking up kids skirts
Mar 22nd 2022
447
                               shit is sad.. and weird af
Mar 22nd 2022
448
                               oh I forgot, y'all haven't ever actually spoken to a woman
Apr 01st 2022
507
                                    imagining more things doesn't erase your weirdo kid skirt references
Apr 01st 2022
510
                                         look man, if you want grown men evaluating little girls
Apr 02nd 2022
514
                                              look man, if you want to open the borders and give ms-13 obamacare
Apr 02nd 2022
519
                                                   five lines. every single one addresses a different point
Apr 03rd 2022
523
                                                        lmao @ you fucked up
Apr 03rd 2022
524
                          lol… he created his own metoo metaverse on OKP
Mar 22nd 2022
445
      i'm trying not to call you a liar my boy but you said you weren't replyi...
Mar 21st 2022
431
           the 17th fastest swimmer is convinced lia thomas kept her out of the fin...
Mar 21st 2022
432
bruh the use of black women as meat shields for white men is WIIIILD
Mar 22nd 2022
434
      Didn't say anything because people in here....
Mar 22nd 2022
436
NBC news compares Lia to Jackie Robinson (WTF)
Mar 23rd 2022
449
Mar 23rd 2022
450
      She will be woman of the year at the ESPY’s
Mar 23rd 2022
453
Lia Thomas has male genitalia and is allowed to parade
Mar 23rd 2022
451
lol concern trolling
Mar 23rd 2022
452
damn i thought she had transitioned (had the surgery)
Mar 24th 2022
455
      wild situation
Mar 24th 2022
456
           It's just a penis (c) Author Unknown
Mar 24th 2022
457
           Are we transphobic if this makes us uncomfortable?
Mar 24th 2022
458
           HE has a DICK and GONADS.
Mar 24th 2022
460
                *plays devil's advocate*
Mar 24th 2022
462
                No. I don’t have to respect that.
Mar 24th 2022
464
                You are a gutless piece of shit.
Mar 25th 2022
465
                     lmao
Mar 25th 2022
466
           I read that last line differently.. lol
Mar 24th 2022
459
                lol. Story just took a wild twist
Mar 24th 2022
461
                     that’s exactly how it reads.. lol
Mar 24th 2022
463
Utah lawmakers ban transgender athletes from competing
Mar 25th 2022
467
You down with this even if it's coming from the same group
Mar 25th 2022
468
I approve of the law, not the group.
Mar 25th 2022
469
      It's the same thing
Mar 25th 2022
470
Ah yes let's further demonize an already vulnerable group of people
Mar 26th 2022
471
They are not girls or women, and never will be.
Mar 26th 2022
472
      Everyone on this board knows you're stupid, except you.
Mar 26th 2022
473
           Thank you for the insults and name calling.
Mar 26th 2022
           You're a pompous little prick
Mar 27th 2022
475
           Thank you for the insults and name calling.
Mar 26th 2022
474
           How long have you fought for equal rights for women?
Mar 27th 2022
476
           ^
Mar 28th 2022
478
Every. Single. Day.
Mar 28th 2022
479
Lia was ranked 500+ as a male and 5th as a woman in the 200 freestyle
Mar 27th 2022
477
She might have been on test blockers already tho as a man
Mar 28th 2022
480
Help me understand, sincerely
Mar 28th 2022
481
They are trying to make it sex-neutral
Mar 28th 2022
482
      I get that. Thanks.
Mar 28th 2022
483
Transgender women are not natural women no matter
Mar 28th 2022
484
      Every. Fucking. Day.
Mar 29th 2022
485
      lol
Mar 29th 2022
486
      I give my opinion on topics. I don’t attack people, which is
Mar 29th 2022
491
           "I don't attack people" says the asshole who's misgendering transpeople.
Mar 30th 2022
499
                You’re attacking me on a personal level.
Mar 30th 2022
500
                     You can make your argument about sports without misgendering transpeople...
Mar 30th 2022
501
                     This is untrue:
Mar 31st 2022
502
                          ^
Mar 31st 2022
503
      Relying on Natural Law is Bogus.
Mar 29th 2022
487
           Relying on Natural Law is bogus?
Mar 29th 2022
488
           why do y'all keep using black people as meat shields for this bullshit?
Mar 29th 2022
496
                its weird how Black folk end up defending white males who transition
Mar 30th 2022
498
who is this argument even against?
Apr 01st 2022
506
Caitlyn Jenner, a transgender woman, is against transgender
Mar 29th 2022
489
is Caitlyn a 'she' because you agree with her?
Mar 29th 2022
490
Accidental
Mar 29th 2022
492
Caitlyn Jenner is trash and a trump supporter.
Mar 29th 2022
493
      Caitlyn Jenner is a former athlete and is a transgender.
Mar 29th 2022
494
      lmao
Mar 29th 2022
495
      Fox literally just hired her. Debuting on Hannity tonight
Mar 31st 2022
504
      there might be a reason it sounds terrible idk
Apr 01st 2022
505
           I’m on the side of biological women, who don’t want
Apr 01st 2022
508
                interesting coincidence about this
Apr 01st 2022
509
                     I am a Democrat.
Apr 01st 2022
511
                          Doesn’t matter. If you eat bacon and Tucker Carlson says he likes baco...
Apr 01st 2022
512
                               you out here cosigning the dumbest mf on the board, LOL
Apr 02nd 2022
513
how does all this work with Title IX?
Mar 30th 2022
497
It’s in violation of that civil rights law.
Apr 02nd 2022
516
      Correction:
Apr 02nd 2022
517
      I know allstah doesn't have as many brain cells as my car's spark plugs
Apr 02nd 2022
518
They claim it's about fairness and trophies.
Apr 02nd 2022
520
Fair point, but this isn’t a clear cut liberal vs conservative issue
Apr 03rd 2022
521
where did his reply say anything about liberal or conservative?
Apr 03rd 2022
522
Your perception is highly incorrect.
Apr 03rd 2022
525
      .
Apr 03rd 2022
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