to be above them? Man if that aint some trickle-down trump-ism.



>>Just a follow-up question. So you great grand parent or
>>grandparent is of Carribean descent, and you are the victim
>of
>>redlining in Chicago, then you don't get any sort of
>redress?
>>Is that your thing?
>
>
>redlining redress affects a lot more than ADOS obviously. but
>ADOS need to have something that addresses their specific
>housing concerns.
>because after all, we built the country. if a Jamaican
>descendant wants access to decent housing I wont stand in
>their way.
>
>
>
>>
>>So I get the reparations, parents get it, but my children
>get
>>nothing? Why wouldn't they get 50%?
>
>sure children of a ADOS/other union can get
>it.
>my wife is carribean. my baby is ADOS/carribean.



Negro you just said in Post #87 that you have to be 100% DAOCS to receive the benefits. Now you are saying children of ADOS and Carribeans should receive benefits? Which one is it? You all over the place.





>
>
>>Dude there was a whole black puerto rican regime in WWII.
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Ricans_in_World_War_II
>>
>>Yeah there some white looking puerto ricans but there are
>alot
>>more black Puerto ricans.
>>
>>Harlem was a quarter Jamaican by the 1920s. The US led
>>Caribbean Defense Command was a "major" outpost of WWII. The
>>Caribbean has always accounted for the largest percentage of
>>the foreign born serving in the US Military. My father in
>law
>>is Bajan and served in the US Airforce during Vietnam. Get
>>Colin Powell to speak on it.
>>
>>But is your position that there were no Black People of
>>Non-DAOCS descent who served in WWII or victims of redlining
>>OR that if there are it doesn't matter, they shouldn't get
>>redress from that because they aren't DAOCs?
>
>Youre not ADOS, you don't have the claim.
>
>and I would push back against your Puerto Ricans in WWII wiki
>post. I said black immigrants. you know damn well Puerto
>Ricans are not what we're talking about of when we talk about
>black immigration from the Caribbean. You made a statement
>about "carribeans accounting for the largest percentage of
>foreign born soldiers" show me the data.


Foreign-born military personnel from Latin America and the Caribbean constituted 38.7 percent (23,926) of all the foreign born in the armed forces while 35.9 percent (22,226) were from Asia.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/immigrants-us-armed-forces#8


13% of all Foreign Born Veterans Identify as Black. For example, there are 17,000 Hatian Veterans in the Country.


https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/immigrant-veterans-united-states





That's 20 minutes of searching. If you want exact WWII numbers that will take some digging to get numbers. But it's out there if you care to look. But it's pointless because of your point below that it doesn't matter.

your Bajan FIL and
>Colin Powell speaks to what? droves of black immigrants in the
>army? I doubt it.

I bring them up as examples from a long history.






and yes it doesn't matter.

So yeah no use spending the time looking up the number of Black Immigrants in WWII if you say it doesn't matter.


>
>Youre not ADOS, you don't have the claim.
>
>>Cause it sounds like you are saying this is all about
>payback
>>for slavery, not redressing systematic wrongs caused by
>>racism. Is that right?
>
>That's right. it's all about American slavery. any systematic
>redress that happens ADOS is entitled to it FIRST. did black
>immigrants get caught in the crossfire of American racism?
>sure. but their claim is still with their home country.


This is where you lose me again. An Immigrant Black person is harmed by redlining and/or systematic racism while in the US, and you think there claim isn't against the US but their... origin country?



>
>
>
>It's interesting that you're focusing on Caribbeans
>as if they don't have whole ass countries that were built on
>slavery....
>why not advocate for them to hold their government's
>accountable?


The conversation is about the US Government and what and which black people it owes in the US.

Discussing Racism in other countries experienced by black people living in those countries is outside the scope of our conversation.


>
>affirmative action is on its last breath because of black
>immigrants.
>a program specifically designated for descendants of American
>slavery. why are we constantly giving others our resources?
>where are theirs???


Da Hell kind of revisionist history is this? AA is on its last breath because of racist white people suing it out of existance. That's where your energy should be focused. Battling those folks. Instead you are focus on other black people who have benefited from the program?

That's that petty small minded table scrap fighting I am talking about.

If this ain't some Trump America Nationalism playing out within the black community.



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