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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"I think there is revisionist history with regards to crime in the 90s. "
Wed Jan-23-19 10:09 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

Kamala Harris is the latest to get roasted for her record on being tough on crime, and while I don't know the details of her record and I am sure her more problematic stuff is post 1990s, I do think a lot of people seem to be forgetting how EVERYONE was on that let's get tough on crime talk in the 90s.

The idea that there were super-predators preying on people wasn't an outrageous notion at the height of the Country's murder rate in the mid 90s.

Menace to Society was praised for its realism in depicting life in the hood. Go back and watch it now and that movies seem like a cartoon exaggeration.

The CBC, despite their misgivings, ultimately supported the 1994 Crime Bill. John Lewis, closest thing we have to a living black saint, supported the Crime Bill.

Anyway, I understand it was more complicated than that. And I think more important than someone's old record is whether they see the errors of that approach and are able to adjust to new realities.


But when you have 20-year-olds who don't remember how we were all nuts about crime, berating politicians for their stance on crime two decades ago. I think that's also an oversimplification.

Anyway, on a similar note, there is this dope podcast called "crime machine" which talks about how smart policing helped drive down crime in the 90s and how the prinicipals of smart policing were subverted by Guiliani and morphed into Broken Glass Theory and the hideous stop and frisk practice and it reminded me of what reading the paper in the 90s was like and hearing crime story after crime story. It's a good podcast check it out.

Also made me think of the point I am trying to make here.







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I think there is revisionist history with regards to crime in the 90s. [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jan-23-19 10:07 AM
 
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#actually, the podcast is called Reply All
Jan 23rd 2019
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Such a good episode
Jan 23rd 2019
9
Yes, some of it was requested, but not exclusively
Jan 23rd 2019
2
Nah, even back then many of us saw that it was an excuse to pass laws...
Jan 23rd 2019
3
^^^
Jan 23rd 2019
17
^^ALL of this^^
Jan 23rd 2019
21
And then there’s this.
Jan 23rd 2019
27
In KH's case, my issue is more her convenient use of Blackness.
Jan 23rd 2019
4
it was cheesy to announce it on MLK’s holiday.
Jan 23rd 2019
5
100%
Jan 23rd 2019
6
^^What a stupid thing to say
Jan 23rd 2019
8
What about using Shirley Chisholm's campaign colors?
Jan 23rd 2019
10
is that a critism somehow?
Jan 23rd 2019
12
      Yep, it's a critique.
Jan 23rd 2019
13
           ^^Clown
Jan 23rd 2019
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                ^^Hates Herself
Jan 23rd 2019
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                     lol
Jan 23rd 2019
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                     ^^Hates you and the legion of "yous" on the Internet
Jan 23rd 2019
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                          I'd totally still vote for her
Jan 23rd 2019
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lol you went for her pandering
Jan 23rd 2019
15
Yes Hitlers Birthday. That would’ve been perfect
Jan 23rd 2019
26
Obama announced where Abraham Lincoln began his political career
Jan 23rd 2019
20
      it felt like a cheap copy of that in a way
Jan 23rd 2019
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      Obama also served in Illinois.
Jan 23rd 2019
29
      Nothing I pointed out is anti woman. It's anti-pandering, if anything.
Jan 23rd 2019
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      And u keep finding clown ways to accuse ppl of hating women
Jan 25th 2019
50
yet, I feel like that's gonna get swept
Jan 23rd 2019
14
I just read the one about the crime lab tech taking home cocaine
Jan 23rd 2019
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RE: In KH's case, my issue is more her convenient use of Blackness.
Jan 23rd 2019
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      I'm kind of confused about this
Jan 23rd 2019
34
           I dunno
Jan 23rd 2019
40
I thought the crime bill had money for social programs too...
Jan 23rd 2019
7
Yeah, the crime bill itself was tied to a bunch of things
Jan 23rd 2019
11
Studies had concluded, by the end of the 60s, prison was ineffective
Jan 23rd 2019
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In 2019 people are still getting car jacked, there are still drive bys,
Jan 23rd 2019
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RE: I think there is revisionist history with regards to crime in the 90...
Jan 23rd 2019
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Had to check, and wasn't surprised based off the content of this post:
Jan 23rd 2019
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🙄
Jan 23rd 2019
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      lol
Jan 23rd 2019
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      I'm not gonna pretend like who her partner is doesn't matter
Jan 24th 2019
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           *makes the jerk off motion*
Jan 24th 2019
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i dont love KH's record but overall i think its good
Jan 23rd 2019
38
black people were driving bulldozers over rap albums
Jan 23rd 2019
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yep
Jan 24th 2019
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Some older Black people. Some older Black people listened to rap
Jan 24th 2019
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      jesse jackson and the rainbow coalition were leading boycotts
Jan 24th 2019
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what you mean to say is that someone you like is catching shit for it
Jan 24th 2019
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I really don't have strong opinions for or against KH. So try again.
Jan 24th 2019
46
this is a better defense of Biden than KH imho
Jan 24th 2019
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It wasn't everyone.
Jan 24th 2019
47
Your main point seems to be not EVERYONE was on that tip.
Jan 25th 2019
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