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Stadiq
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42. "Yikes...so...no. Got it. "
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Tue Jan-08-19 03:02 PM by Stadiq

          

>>My point is Dems need better sales people- people to
>deliver
>>their message/case to the Murrican public.
>>>(You know who hates them more than you? Republicans.)
>>
>>Exactly. A lot of Americans hate these two.
>>So...maybe...pick someone else to give the response...?
>>
>>>Calm down.
>>I'm calm...just wish the Dems had their shit together.
>
>There's your FUCKING narrative bias. Republicans spent a
>decade sliming Pelosi then you say "We shouldn't have Pelosi
>respond because people don't like her."

I'm not talking about Republicans not liking her. I'm talking about all kinds of people.

You every talk to a-political people?

>
>Republicans are attacking the most potent people the most
>viciously - and so you want to switch to someone else? Guess
>what - they'll just vilify those fucking people too.

I'm not talking about Republicans- I'm talking about a wide range of people.

I'm also talking about Chuck and Nancy's ability to speak to a national audience and keep their attention.

I'm not talking about folks being attacked after the fact- I'm talking about folks listening tonight.

>
>Republicans attack the strengths of the opponents - don't
>mistake Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer or Obama or Clinton or
>OCA or anyone else they attack as being weak. They'd praise an
>ineffective leader in the Democratic party --for their own
>goals.
>

Can you read?

I'm not talking about Nancy's effectiveness. I'm talking about the policy sell. I'm talking about who should talk to Amerikkka.

Chuck? Chuck is a moron. Give me Harry back. I don't like Chuck. Is that okay with you?




>If "they" hate them then they are effective.
>
>(Clinton has a "likability problem' but still got 6 million
>more people to vote for her than her opponent.)

?? And lost the election. Not sure what your point is here playa. You want to rehash the election now?

I'm sorry you're having such a bad day, just remember we just disagree on a few points.


>
>>>P.S. You didn't even remember that Nancy and Chuck got a
>>deal
>>>with Trump about DACA - a deal that Trump welshed on.
>>
>>You're absolutely right about this, I admitted it. So now I
>>can't have an opinion on who responds to Trump?
>
>Well you lack of knowing what's happened doesn't HELP your
>vague suggestion on who should give the rebuttal.

Difference between you and me is I can admit I fucked up.

You have misread things, or made assumptions about me, and are apparently unable to pump the breaks and slow down.

You've had a few shots and now a full on tantrum, mostly based on assumptions you wrongly made about me and/or you are easily triggered.

Why you so mad at me dog? I don't remember you, do we have beef or something?

>
>
>> Obama >>couldn't get a deal in principle.
>>
>>Are you okay? I'm not saying Obama should deal with Trump.
>>I'm not talking about who should deal with Trump.
>
>
>I'm saying those 2 did what Obama couldn't and now you want to
>"try someone else" to give the rebuttal? WTF man?! These are
>effective politicians who are leading the Democratic party in
>Congress. And you suggest trying to "find someone else" to
>give it? Obama's not a Democratic leader any longer - why
>would he give it?

Again, I am not talking about their effectiveness in negotiating. You get that now, or nah?

I am talking about who should respond on national TV.

My Obama suggestion was tongue in cheek.

Like I said in my other response maybe someone like one of the Castros, Gillum, Jerry Brown, etc.

Or someone else who can speak as an expert on border security.

Maybe team one of them with Nancy and let Chuck sit this one out.


I want the same thing as you playboy.


>
>>I'm talking about who should give the nationally televised
>>response to Trump's case for the wall.
>
>>You need to pump your breaks on your replies- you make a ton
>>of assumptions and don't seem to have 100% reading
>>comprehension.
>
>
>You seem to follow the fucking narrative you hear from
>DUMMIES.

Who do you think I'm following smart guy?

I can be too hard on the Dems, I admit, because of my own personal experiences with the party.

That being said, doesn't mean I'm always wrong.

There are better people on the roster to respond to Trump.

Wise-up of come up with a better plan than "Someone
>else- or the old President that Republicans hate 1000% and who
>Bernie bros and Jill Steiner said wasn't good enough." Name
>some names and give some better reasons.
>

Oh okay, you're that guy. Just because I criticize of the Dems, doesn't mean I am a Bernie bro (far from it) and fuck Jill Stein.

There you go, though, making those assumptions again.


>If Pelosi or Schumer were under criminal investigation I'd say
>let Steny Hoyer or Dick Durbin do it - but do either of those
>names get your pussy wet??????

And you tell me go grow up? LOL


>
>Grow up. Or make better suggestions.

I made a few. Not sure if they are the best suggestions, but I think there are better SPEAKERS to SELL the DEMOCRAT point of view.

>
>Why not have The Rock or Kevin Hart or Oprah give it? Because
>they aren't leaders in the Democratic party of course.


>To me the Speaker of the House (and the 3rd in line of the
>presidential succession) and the minority leader in the Senate
>are the leaders of the party that matter when having a policy
>debate.

Finally you made an actual point that wasn't washed in emotion and assumptions about me and/or my character.

Okay, maybe Nancy deserves to be there because she is fighting this fight.

But team her with someone else in my opinion. Is that okay if I have an opinion, or are you going to talk more about my pussy and shit?

>
>And to hell with people who don't think they are likable
>enough.
>
>


Well here is the question smart guy. Do you want the wall built or nah?

Do you want Dems to win elections, or nah?


Because at some point you have to consider likability. I'm definitely not saying it should be the only thing, but you have to consider it- especially on a large stage.


Reminder that we are essentially on the same team. I don't want to see the wall built, and I want Dems to win. Just like you.

I just think there are better options on the bench that would better give a response.


I hope your day gets better.

  

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yall know who else used a state of emergency to get what he wanted? [View all] , _explain555, Mon Jan-07-19 11:21 AM
 
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Oh and accordin to Ivana Trump, 45's fave readin was a book of Hitlers
Jan 07th 2019
1
I mean, why *wouldn't* a megalomaniac study Hitler?
Jan 07th 2019
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      lol
Jan 07th 2019
3
45 askin all stations for primetime slot Tues night for special address
Jan 07th 2019
4
"The shutdown is the second longest in the nation’s history"
Jan 07th 2019
5
tax payer shakedown
Jan 08th 2019
24
Wait... Tuesday night? Oh, hell naw... That's Clemson vs. Alabama
Jan 07th 2019
6
      Huh ?!
Jan 07th 2019
7
      Nigga, what you doing tonight?
Jan 07th 2019
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           Right - special prez addresses don't impact your DVR
Jan 07th 2019
9
                DVR? lol. And I just checked... t's on ESPN so I won't be able to watch....
Jan 07th 2019
11
                     Dogg the game is tonite. Monday. Like always. Haha.
Jan 07th 2019
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                     Ha! Having the last two Tuesdays off has really screwed with my calendar
Jan 07th 2019
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                          Ahahaha. Totally hear you.
Jan 07th 2019
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                     I'm sure you can find a live stream somewhere.
Jan 07th 2019
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                          Fuck Bama yo
Jan 07th 2019
16
                               Haha same as you except I'm Pats instead of Steelers.
Jan 07th 2019
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jade helm!!
Jan 07th 2019
10
I think all tyrants do. Tyrants have a playbook...
Jan 07th 2019
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Should dems bargain for DACA/more?
Jan 07th 2019
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^^They did this, Trump agreed, then rejected it
Jan 07th 2019
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i have to agree
Jan 07th 2019
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What I don't get is how GOP St. Ronald Reagan gave amnesty in 86
Jan 08th 2019
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      I don't think they worship triple 6 anymore
Jan 08th 2019
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Oops didn’t know this
Jan 07th 2019
20
      shit, im sayin otherwise. dis state of emergency shits a power grab
Jan 07th 2019
21
Not sure how this could at all hurt Dems.
Jan 08th 2019
38
      key point that gets lost in all this:
Jan 13th 2019
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Emperor Palpatine?
Jan 08th 2019
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It's a ploy to get out from under this horrible idea; nothing will happe...
Jan 08th 2019
27
^^THIS
Jan 08th 2019
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mf said he would keep govt closed months or YEARS. dat aint no
Jan 08th 2019
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      Tax refund season is the only reason he's doing it this way
Jan 08th 2019
40
Its official...Dems are gonna fuck this up
Jan 08th 2019
28
Hahahah. narrative much?
Jan 08th 2019
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Are you okay?
Jan 08th 2019
31
      She's the Speaker and he's the Sen. minority leader. Who else?
Jan 08th 2019
34
      someone who can make the case simply for
Jan 08th 2019
37
           I don't think there has to be one response. Put a bunch of people out t...
Jan 08th 2019
39
           i agree with your general point.
Jan 08th 2019
43
                word...good points
Jan 08th 2019
45
                     awww fuckkkkk i just thought of something!
Jan 08th 2019
47
                          ^this kind of creativity
Jan 08th 2019
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      What is wrong with you , my dude?
Jan 08th 2019
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                Again
Jan 08th 2019
50
                     Take a deep breath and please read slowly
Jan 08th 2019
51
bernie is doing his own response lol.
Jan 08th 2019
35
this is when it most seems like he's just thirsty
Jan 08th 2019
46
look at this new dailykos poll of potential dem nominees
Jan 08th 2019
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      RE: look at this new dailykos poll of potential dem nominees
Jan 08th 2019
52
Bernie is NOT a Democrat
Jan 08th 2019
49
bernie is a functional democrat fam. we have been through this lol.
Jan 13th 2019
64
I realize Bernie Saunders
Jan 09th 2019
59
      bernie saunders sounds like black progressive bass player.
Jan 13th 2019
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Should just be video of Rashida Tlaib played on a loop for 10 minutes
Jan 08th 2019
41
      or a video of the lies they use to instill fear
Jan 08th 2019
44
primetime addresses a waste of damn time
Jan 08th 2019
53
dude sounded like a 10 year old reading a book report
Jan 08th 2019
55
this was a real misstep for trump in one big way.
Jan 09th 2019
56
LOL
Jan 09th 2019
57
Too bad the Trump cult wakes up with an empty cache
Jan 09th 2019
58
Trump could take billions from disaster areas to fund wall
Jan 10th 2019
60
theyre cracking.
Jan 13th 2019
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RE: theyre cracking.
Jan 13th 2019
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i disagree with that.
Jan 13th 2019
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      RE: i disagree with that.
Jan 13th 2019
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      can we get a President Limbaugh/Hannity Time cover?
Jan 13th 2019
68
           that really should be standard strategy for dems.
Jan 14th 2019
69
trump says he wont be declaring national emergency lol.
Jan 14th 2019
70
is there a word for something thats even worse than a flop?
Jan 14th 2019
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the newest press stunt is kinda dumb.
Jan 19th 2019
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Problem is, Americans are dumb AF
Jan 19th 2019
74
      Haha my thoughts exactly.
Jan 20th 2019
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btw fox news is trying to manufacture another caravan 'crisis'
Jan 19th 2019
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LOL wowww. yeah how come da caravans only start comin right
Jan 19th 2019
75
I've been skeptical about the timings
Jan 20th 2019
79
seeking asylum isn't a crime, regardless
Jan 19th 2019
76
HAHAHA dying @ the first comment:
Jan 20th 2019
78
White House preparing draft national emergency order, has identified $7 ...
Jan 24th 2019
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prolly wanna rush shit in time for da next caravan
Jan 24th 2019
81
I can’t even fathom the amount of graft
Jan 24th 2019
82
might ultimately be a good thing (given current circumstances)
Jan 24th 2019
83
repub senators chew out mike pence behind closed doors.
Jan 24th 2019
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