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>>My point is Dems need better sales people- people to >deliver >>their message/case to the Murrican public. >>>(You know who hates them more than you? Republicans.) >> >>Exactly. A lot of Americans hate these two. >>So...maybe...pick someone else to give the response...? >> >>>Calm down. >>I'm calm...just wish the Dems had their shit together. > >There's your FUCKING narrative bias. Republicans spent a >decade sliming Pelosi then you say "We shouldn't have Pelosi >respond because people don't like her."
I'm not talking about Republicans not liking her. I'm talking about all kinds of people.
You every talk to a-political people?
> >Republicans are attacking the most potent people the most >viciously - and so you want to switch to someone else? Guess >what - they'll just vilify those fucking people too.
I'm not talking about Republicans- I'm talking about a wide range of people.
I'm also talking about Chuck and Nancy's ability to speak to a national audience and keep their attention.
I'm not talking about folks being attacked after the fact- I'm talking about folks listening tonight.
> >Republicans attack the strengths of the opponents - don't >mistake Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer or Obama or Clinton or >OCA or anyone else they attack as being weak. They'd praise an >ineffective leader in the Democratic party --for their own >goals. >
Can you read?
I'm not talking about Nancy's effectiveness. I'm talking about the policy sell. I'm talking about who should talk to Amerikkka.
Chuck? Chuck is a moron. Give me Harry back. I don't like Chuck. Is that okay with you?
>If "they" hate them then they are effective. > >(Clinton has a "likability problem' but still got 6 million >more people to vote for her than her opponent.)
?? And lost the election. Not sure what your point is here playa. You want to rehash the election now?
I'm sorry you're having such a bad day, just remember we just disagree on a few points.
> >>>P.S. You didn't even remember that Nancy and Chuck got a >>deal >>>with Trump about DACA - a deal that Trump welshed on. >> >>You're absolutely right about this, I admitted it. So now I >>can't have an opinion on who responds to Trump? > >Well you lack of knowing what's happened doesn't HELP your >vague suggestion on who should give the rebuttal.
Difference between you and me is I can admit I fucked up.
You have misread things, or made assumptions about me, and are apparently unable to pump the breaks and slow down.
You've had a few shots and now a full on tantrum, mostly based on assumptions you wrongly made about me and/or you are easily triggered.
Why you so mad at me dog? I don't remember you, do we have beef or something?
> > >> Obama >>couldn't get a deal in principle. >> >>Are you okay? I'm not saying Obama should deal with Trump. >>I'm not talking about who should deal with Trump. > > >I'm saying those 2 did what Obama couldn't and now you want to >"try someone else" to give the rebuttal? WTF man?! These are >effective politicians who are leading the Democratic party in >Congress. And you suggest trying to "find someone else" to >give it? Obama's not a Democratic leader any longer - why >would he give it?
Again, I am not talking about their effectiveness in negotiating. You get that now, or nah?
I am talking about who should respond on national TV.
My Obama suggestion was tongue in cheek.
Like I said in my other response maybe someone like one of the Castros, Gillum, Jerry Brown, etc.
Or someone else who can speak as an expert on border security.
Maybe team one of them with Nancy and let Chuck sit this one out.
I want the same thing as you playboy.
> >>I'm talking about who should give the nationally televised >>response to Trump's case for the wall. > >>You need to pump your breaks on your replies- you make a ton >>of assumptions and don't seem to have 100% reading >>comprehension. > > >You seem to follow the fucking narrative you hear from >DUMMIES.
Who do you think I'm following smart guy?
I can be too hard on the Dems, I admit, because of my own personal experiences with the party.
That being said, doesn't mean I'm always wrong.
There are better people on the roster to respond to Trump.
Wise-up of come up with a better plan than "Someone >else- or the old President that Republicans hate 1000% and who >Bernie bros and Jill Steiner said wasn't good enough." Name >some names and give some better reasons. >
Oh okay, you're that guy. Just because I criticize of the Dems, doesn't mean I am a Bernie bro (far from it) and fuck Jill Stein.
There you go, though, making those assumptions again.
>If Pelosi or Schumer were under criminal investigation I'd say >let Steny Hoyer or Dick Durbin do it - but do either of those >names get your pussy wet??????
And you tell me go grow up? LOL
> >Grow up. Or make better suggestions.
I made a few. Not sure if they are the best suggestions, but I think there are better SPEAKERS to SELL the DEMOCRAT point of view.
> >Why not have The Rock or Kevin Hart or Oprah give it? Because >they aren't leaders in the Democratic party of course.
>To me the Speaker of the House (and the 3rd in line of the >presidential succession) and the minority leader in the Senate >are the leaders of the party that matter when having a policy >debate.
Finally you made an actual point that wasn't washed in emotion and assumptions about me and/or my character.
Okay, maybe Nancy deserves to be there because she is fighting this fight.
But team her with someone else in my opinion. Is that okay if I have an opinion, or are you going to talk more about my pussy and shit?
> >And to hell with people who don't think they are likable >enough. > >
Well here is the question smart guy. Do you want the wall built or nah?
Do you want Dems to win elections, or nah?
Because at some point you have to consider likability. I'm definitely not saying it should be the only thing, but you have to consider it- especially on a large stage.
Reminder that we are essentially on the same team. I don't want to see the wall built, and I want Dems to win. Just like you.
I just think there are better options on the bench that would better give a response.
I hope your day gets better.
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