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so why do we keep doing this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/07/the-overblown-stigma-of-genital-herpes/374757/


The Overblown Stigma of Genital Herpes

For many people living with this common disease, the most debilitating symptoms are shame and isolation.
Even after his friends hype him up, Jamin Peckham still backs out sometimes. It’s not that he’s shy or insecure about his looks. Instead, what keeps this 27-year-old from approaching the cute girl across the room is a set of hypotheticals that most people don’t deal with.

“My mind runs ahead to ‘the disclosure talk’ and then all the way down to, ‘What if we have sex and what if I give it to her?’” said Peckham, an IT professional who lives in Austin, Texas.

Peckham has had genital herpes for six years now and got it from an ex-girlfriend who didn’t know she had it. He hasn’t been in a relationship with any girls since his diagnosis, though he’s been rejected by a few girls who asked to be friends after hearing about his condition. Due to this, Peckham said that he has to work harder than ever to secure a romantic relationship.

Some think of people like Peckham as immoral, assuming only people who sleep around get genital herpes. The stigma of the virus, which exists at the heart of this faulty mindset, is usually worse than the symptoms themselves, as it affects dating, social life and psychological health.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, about one out of six people in the United States aged 14 to 49 have genital herpes caused by the HSV-2 infection (the herpes simplex virus often responsible for genital herpes). The overall genital herpes statistic is probably higher, the CDC stated, since many people are also contracting genital herpes through oral sex caused by HSV-1 (the kind of herpes usually responsible for cold sores). Taking that into account, genital herpes statistics are usually quoted at closer to 25 percent for women and 10 percent for men, but most of these people don’t even know they have it.
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In terms of a person’s health, genital herpes is usually nothing to worry about. According to the National Institutes of Health, many people with genital herpes never even have outbreaks or their outbreaks decrease over time (one or two outbreaks a year is not uncommon). The virus can lie dormant in your system for years without coming to the surface. The initial outbreak is often the worst, occurring a few days to a couple of weeks after being infected. Symptoms may include a fever, headache, and muscle aches for a few weeks. But for the most part, outbreaks consist of painful fever blisters or sores on or near the genitals (or, in less common cases, sores appearing elsewhere) for a few days, as well as burning, itching, swelling, and irritation that may be triggered by stress or fatigue. The virus never goes away, and some take antiviral medicines to relieve or suppress outbreaks.

The only times that having genital herpes can be dangerous are when having sex with someone who has HIV (since it can increase your chances of getting HIV) and during pregnancy. A genital herpes outbreak during the third trimester of pregnancy and during delivery may be deadly for the baby if he or she contracts it from the mother (neonatal herpes, it’s called), but it’s incredibly rare (one per 3,000 to 20,000 live births) and preventable with medication and a C-section, according to an article published in American Family Physician.

Genital herpes is contracted during sexual contact, usually spread through fluids on the genitals or mouth. You can only get genital herpes from someone who already has it, can get it during just one sexual encounter, and can get it with or without a condom. Condoms merely lower your risk, according to the CDC. You can even get it if the other person doesn’t have symptoms, since the virus sheds about 10 percent of the time for asymptomatic HSV-2 infections, according to a 2011 study published in the Journal of American Medical Association.
Film and TV no doubt keep the stigma alive. Almost every Judd Apatow movie includes a joke about herpes.

Herpes has a unique stigma among sexually transmitted diseases. HIV/AIDS is stigmatized, but few laugh at people who have it because it’s a serious illness. HPV can lead to cancer, on occasion, and women get tested regularly for it, making it no joke to most. Chlamydia, syphilis, crabs, scabies, and gonorrhea are sometimes the target of jokes, but these STDS are typically curable, so people won’t have to endure the annoyance for too long. Genital herpes, though, isn’t curable, is thought of as a disease only the promiscuous and cheating-types get, and is a popular joke topic.

Despite the fact that herpes has been around since the time of the Ancient Greeks, according to Stanford University, the widespread stigma seems to be just decades old. Herpes is the “largest epidemic no one wants to talk about,” Eric Sabo wrote in the New York Times. Both Project Accept and HSV Singles Dating blame an antiviral drug marketing campaign during the late 1970s to mid-1980s for herpes’ stigma. But it’s difficult to pin down exactly when and why our negative associations started.

Regardless of where the stigma came from, film and TV no doubt keep it alive. Leah Berkenwald pointed out in an article for Scarleteen that almost every Judd Apatow movie includes a joke about herpes. Living Sphere has a large list of films, TV shows, and books that mention genital herpes, with many of the films and TV shows poking fun at people who have it. Sometimes the jokes directly suggest people with genital herpes are whores or cheaters or they indirectly make the connection, such as the classic Hangover line, “What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Except for herpes.” The prevalence of these jokes can keep people with genital herpes from opening up.

Jennifer Lemons, a 42-year-old writer and comedian from Richmond, Virginia, isn’t offended when she hears herpes jokes, but says she used to be more sensitive before she got the facts. She’s come to peace with her genital herpes, which she was diagnosed with three years ago, after feeling shame about it. Once she realized how common it was and how you can get it after just one sexual encounter, she began sharing those facts to combat herpes jokes.

“If people had all the info, it wouldn’t be funny anymore,” Lemons said. “You have to figure, if indeed the stat is one in four, and you’re telling a joke at a party where there are 20 people, there are probably a couple people there who are not calling you out, but whose feelings are hurt.”
"They begin thinking of uncomfortable conversations with people they’ll have to have and whether they’ll pass it along to the next person."

Lemons approaches her romantic life pragmatically: “If you don’t like it, don’t date me,” she’ll say to guys. Lemons was married and her then-husband considered and researched the condition before agreeing to date her. She never gave it to him, since they used condoms, took medicine, and avoided sexual contact during her outbreaks—which for her usually occur on her back and waistline.

Not every guy Lemons dated has been cool with it, though. She always discloses the condition on the second date, after realizing she likes the guy enough to go out again. One guy Lemons dated said he was okay with her herpes, but it became obvious after the first time they had sex that he was inspecting her genitals and “disguising it as foreplay,” Lemons said.

“I finally asked, ‘Find what you were looking for?’” Lemons said. “I was a little angry and hurt and he was really embarrassed. He did admit that he was looking for signs based on what he'd read on the Internet… It was obvious he wasn't ready for a sexual relationship with me.”

Others have dealt with their diagnoses much more harshly than Lemons. An entire spectrum of diagnosis responses can be found in a Topix.com forum that was posted in 2009 and still receives comments to this day. The boy who posted it, then 16, was having trouble accepting his diagnosis and was looking for advice. The next five years of responses include people sharing advice and their own stories, as well as people threatening to spread the disease or saying it’s a curse from God for sinful promiscuity. One girl asked, “What’s the point of living?” Many expressed a desire to be loved and accepted and the fear that they’ll never experience those joys again. Some couldn’t accept the permanence of it. One girl waited until marriage to have sex and got it from her husband and another got it after being raped.

Dr. Christopher Lewis, a family medicine doctor in the Austin, Texas area, has diagnosed genital herpes many times and has seen a variety of responses from patients, ranging from “it makes sense” to “my life is over.” Denial and anger are at the top of the list of initial responses.

“It could be a very confusing time period for them,” Lewis said. “They start thinking back to all the sex partners they had to see who they could’ve gotten it from. Then there’s a level of fear and guilt that ‘Maybe I gave it to someone else and don’t realize it.’ Then they begin thinking of uncomfortable conversations with people they’ll have to have and whether they’ll pass it along to the next person.”
All of this insecurity is over a skin condition that doesn’t show up most or even all of the year.

There are many dating sites for people with genital herpes, a Herpes Resource Center Hotline (for counseling and information) and in-person and online support groups. Aimee Wood, a psychotherapist in Philadelphia, has been running one of these support groups since fall 2011.

Every other week, between six and 10 people crowd in a room with Wood to discuss the trials and tribulations of their herpes diagnosis. Topics range from how to respond when hit with a herpes joke (give the facts if you don’t want to out yourself, Wood advises them) to forgiving the person who gave it to you (though very few know who they got it from). Disclosure is a frequent topic of discussion in the group.

“We discuss the pros and cons of disclosing too soon versus too late, and it’s clear that there’s a fine line between waiting until there’s a little bit of a rapport so they can see you as a person, and having sex,” Wood said.

Wood’s patients rarely have issues when disclosing to family and friends. One girl’s father struggled to accept it and would make snarky comments and even blame her for having it. But nine times out of 10, Wood said, friends and family are supportive and sympathetic. The most common struggle among her patients is navigating romantic situations (which many delay or avoid altogether).

Another common struggle among her patients is maintaining their sense of self-worth.

“We do a self-esteem exercise with a crumpled $20 bill, where I ask clients to go around the room and beat it, write on it, and stomp on it, while still keeping it intact,” Wood said. “Then I ask them how much it’s worth. Still $20, they’ll say.’”

All of this insecurity, discouragement, rejection, tears, anger, counseling, suicidal tendencies, humiliation, shame, and isolation is caused by the stigma of a skin condition that usually doesn’t show up most or even all of the year and can be contracted after having protected sex one time. Can the stigma of genital herpes really survive the facts? Peckham and Lemons don’t think so.

fuck you.

  

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Damn.... Usher got the gift that keeps on giving? [View all] , legsdiamond, Mon Aug-07-17 12:03 PM
 
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LET IT BURN!!
Aug 07th 2017
1
Can't rub penicillin on the herpazoids
Aug 07th 2017
2
Usher got Caught Up, man
Aug 07th 2017
8
^^^
Aug 07th 2017
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^^^
Aug 07th 2017
6
Yup. Lol. It's crazy
Aug 07th 2017
9
No dudes really want their joint looking like a 100 Grand bar
Aug 07th 2017
11
this ain't a big deal?
Aug 07th 2017
13
Considering other STIs can result in death, disfigurement,
Aug 07th 2017
17
      If I had a choice of Sexually transmitted infenctions
Aug 07th 2017
23
           yes b/c then you can stay on your high horse
Aug 07th 2017
25
                you reaching like shit.. it's an STI
Aug 07th 2017
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                     and we all know why.
Aug 07th 2017
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                     Yeah it's bc they don't want painful fever blisters or sores
Aug 07th 2017
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                          naw that's not why.
Aug 07th 2017
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                               Lol you a fool man. So people do want painful genital blisters and
Aug 07th 2017
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                               nah, this post was made because he is being sued
Aug 07th 2017
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                                    lol ,right.
Aug 07th 2017
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                                    already paid a million to another woman
Aug 07th 2017
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                                    and you want to clown him for it.
Aug 07th 2017
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                     The stats say you've likely been with someone with it
Aug 07th 2017
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                          agreed.
Aug 07th 2017
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                          maybe so, the stats probably also say that Ive been in close proximity
Aug 07th 2017
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                          when was the last time you were tested?
Aug 07th 2017
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                               what do they tell people that develop painful fever sores and blisters?
Aug 07th 2017
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                                    then they treat.
Aug 07th 2017
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                          that's an ass backward argument
Aug 07th 2017
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YUP. if you didnt post this I would have
Aug 07th 2017
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      so it's cool if you get it?
Aug 07th 2017
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           i probably already do. besides I'm worried about HPV more.
Aug 07th 2017
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                oh.. OK
Aug 09th 2017
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Its sucks because he made it so easy the jokes write themselves
Aug 07th 2017
4
it sucks b/c herpes AINT SHIT.
Aug 07th 2017
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herpes AINT SHIT? What? Man kill that.
Aug 07th 2017
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People with herpes say herpes ain't shit
Aug 07th 2017
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after?
Aug 07th 2017
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and swore she wasn't foul for waiting to tell him
Aug 07th 2017
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^^^^ so what outchea slinging that herp
Aug 07th 2017
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if i had herpes i wouldn't 'sling it' b/c
Aug 07th 2017
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      #actually it must be hard to not have sex
Aug 07th 2017
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      why wouldn't you sling it?
Aug 07th 2017
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      for the same reason i wouldn't if i had crabs.
Aug 07th 2017
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           it is that deep. bc usher was possibly doing it. and a post was made
Aug 07th 2017
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                i don't approve or disapprove of what Usher did.
Aug 07th 2017
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                     my pushback against you? lol so my stance on herpes is bc of you?
Aug 07th 2017
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                          your back and forth w/me over this is b/c of me.
Aug 07th 2017
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                               you're really weird bro.
Aug 07th 2017
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                                    coming from you that's a compliment.
Aug 07th 2017
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      so why are we caping for usher or those that do knowingly sling it?
Aug 08th 2017
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           Bc we need you to save us, Ric.
Aug 08th 2017
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           lmao
Aug 08th 2017
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           exactly...that's all this post is about. smh makes no damn sense.
Aug 08th 2017
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                b/c i can't stand your willful ignorance nor your juvenile taunting.
Aug 08th 2017
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                     meanwhile you wouldn't do what usher did. And we are shaming usher
Aug 08th 2017
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You dang right. I have a story to tell
Aug 07th 2017
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      Damn case, you so small minded
Aug 07th 2017
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           HECK NO! I'll Ride this Horse all the way to the grave.
Aug 07th 2017
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what's so bad about herpes?
Aug 07th 2017
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      lmao
Aug 07th 2017
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      Exactly. You can't answer the question.
Aug 07th 2017
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           no, the worst part is having it for forever
Aug 07th 2017
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                except the risk of transferrence is rather low.
Aug 07th 2017
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                     but there is still a risk.
Aug 07th 2017
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                          of a skin rash.
Aug 07th 2017
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                               never had chicken pox and pray I never get them
Aug 07th 2017
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      Subject line in #11
Aug 07th 2017
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      If that happens it's usually only once.
Aug 07th 2017
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      Lol yeah this ain't so bad
Aug 07th 2017
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           a little scratch and burn and shit tho... smh
Aug 07th 2017
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           HPV can cause cancer.
Aug 07th 2017
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           Man the hell is wrong with you
Aug 07th 2017
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                he just going into his bag of STD's like Santa Claus
Aug 07th 2017
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                you are slow.
Aug 07th 2017
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                     who is shaming anyone here. Usher isn't being 'shamed' for having herpes
Aug 07th 2017
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                          i am shaming you for being ignorant and awful.
Aug 07th 2017
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                               far from ignorant. I know herpes can cause painful blisters and sores
Aug 07th 2017
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                                    i don't know what makes you awful
Aug 07th 2017
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           Jokers acting like Herpes is Ringworm... LOL
Aug 07th 2017
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                it's not even as problematic as ring worm.
Aug 07th 2017
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                     Man, I'm just saying not body want that mess
Aug 07th 2017
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Asserting that it ain't shit is hurting your argument.
Aug 08th 2017
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      EXACTLY
Aug 08th 2017
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      i don't care.
Aug 08th 2017
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           ain't no clear below once you get if fam...
Aug 08th 2017
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fuuuuck that.
Aug 07th 2017
10
There was a guy on OKP who said his wife confessed to having it
Aug 07th 2017
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Man, I would have brought her a single bed to sleep in
Aug 07th 2017
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      bruh... dude was mad heated and I didn't blame him
Aug 07th 2017
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damn. how do you even prove it?
Aug 07th 2017
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damn Ursh!
Aug 07th 2017
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The Point People Keep Missing is
Aug 07th 2017
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I wonder how many in this post been tested lol
Aug 07th 2017
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they rarely even test for herpes though
Aug 08th 2017
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      that's alarming in itself...
Aug 08th 2017
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where the fuck are y'all getting this stigma bullshit from?
Aug 07th 2017
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Dude we live in a let it all Burn Down era.. No Standards
Aug 07th 2017
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      Its not standards, its the fact that any of yall dirty ass niggas
Aug 07th 2017
           lol right everyone can catch it. Some take preventative measures others
Aug 07th 2017
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           What preventative measures tho
Aug 07th 2017
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                one preventative measure is limiting your sex partners in general
Aug 07th 2017
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                     lol, no...that's basically validating the stigma
Aug 08th 2017
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                          validating the stigma for STDs and STIs?
Aug 08th 2017
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                               what are the precautions of not getting herpes
Aug 08th 2017
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                                    i've answered this question already.
Aug 08th 2017
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                                         it's still a shitty answer
Aug 08th 2017
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           Shoooot. It's possible. But I'm not Friends with Herpes.
Aug 07th 2017
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                Is this an excerpt from your book?
Aug 07th 2017
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                u sure?
Aug 08th 2017
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                     To my knowledge, I've never contracted and STD
Aug 08th 2017
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                          to your knowledge...why don't u have that knowledge
Aug 08th 2017
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                               I told you that I've never had an STD.
Aug 08th 2017
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Lol there's a group of people that are saying herpes is a big deal
Aug 07th 2017
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safe. from. WHAT??????
Aug 07th 2017
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who the hell wants a skin rash?
Aug 07th 2017
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who in the fuck gives a shit about a goddamned skin rash.
Aug 07th 2017
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      that ain't my life nigga. foh.
Aug 07th 2017
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           *shrugs*
Aug 07th 2017
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                um, the painful blisters came from the link you posted tho
Aug 07th 2017
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                yeah I'm great at this.
Aug 08th 2017
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                Uh...cold sores are HSV-1. Just sayin'
Aug 08th 2017
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                     Cold sores can be 1 or 2, genital herpes can be 1 or 2.
Aug 08th 2017
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                          Welp...learn something new everyday
Aug 08th 2017
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shame. ridicule. essentially.
Aug 07th 2017
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its unnecessarily stigmatized is the point
Aug 07th 2017
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i do find it interesting that herpes (or exposure to herpes)
Aug 07th 2017
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is it really overblown if its everywhere?
Aug 07th 2017
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lol right, its 'everywhere' bc it ain't that big of a deal to a huge por...
Aug 07th 2017
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mofos talking about it ain't hard to not have sex
Aug 07th 2017
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i mean the "trauma" of having it.
Aug 07th 2017
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aint no tail that worth it imo.
Aug 07th 2017
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      So whenever you've gotten a BJ,
Aug 07th 2017
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           if i ever had a sore on my mouth i wouldn't be kissing anyone
Aug 07th 2017
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                Really? A cold sore?
Aug 07th 2017
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                     in high school. Man i don't know what i would./wouldn't do in hs.
Aug 07th 2017
127
                          But you would have kissed them if they didn't currently have a sore,
Aug 07th 2017
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                               And just bc i dodged bullets in the past don't mean I wanna
Aug 07th 2017
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                                    The point is you're still dodging bullets with every single partner.
Aug 07th 2017
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                                         Nah I don't want painful blisters on my penis
Aug 07th 2017
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                                              If you had it, it would probably not mean "painful blisters on your peni...
Aug 07th 2017
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                                                   I don't want no cluster of itchy pimples either wtf
Aug 07th 2017
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                                                        ... which quickly go away and usually never come back.
Aug 07th 2017
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                                                             Great I don't want it ever. If it doesn't bother you, do you.
Aug 08th 2017
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                                                                  u being real dense man
Aug 08th 2017
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                                                                       yeah if people are out there having sex with multiple partners and i'm n...
Aug 08th 2017
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                                                                            I mean, I guess we are all lucky at some point in the game
Aug 08th 2017
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                                                                                 exactly but at the same time, dudes are talking about you wouldn't kiss
Aug 08th 2017
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                                                                                      riiight. I remember in college my boy messed with a white girl
Aug 08th 2017
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This place is Wild. This convo would never last this long 5 - 7 yrs ago
Aug 07th 2017
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gotta accept people having rotten genitals in 2017 smh.
Aug 07th 2017
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That's on them/her. I just don't want her's on me. ya dig
Aug 07th 2017
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maybe a few OKP's got it the last 5 to 7 years
Aug 07th 2017
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That may be true. but don't get mad because folks want full disclosure
Aug 07th 2017
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we've had this conversation before and i was in here shaming
Aug 07th 2017
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You ain't shaming me because I don't want herpes.
Aug 07th 2017
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      you're likely a carrier for it/been exposed to it/already have it
Aug 07th 2017
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      all the more reason to be more selective and wiser going forward. smh
Aug 07th 2017
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      Not today play. Speak that over your life.
Aug 07th 2017
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      i am shaming you for being ignorant and awful.
Aug 07th 2017
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           Sorry Playa. I'm not ashamed about my position.
Aug 07th 2017
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                And that's the most shameful thing about you.
Aug 08th 2017
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                     Do you have an STD?
Aug 08th 2017
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                          i have never had any STI.
Aug 08th 2017
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this post woulda been even better 5-7 years ago once SPM chimed in
Aug 08th 2017
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look, nobody WANTS herpes. i think the problem is the stigma.
Aug 07th 2017
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who is shaming anyone that has it? where is this happening?
Aug 07th 2017
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      do i need to pull individual tweets? im not talking about yall n*ggas lo...
Aug 07th 2017
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      oh ok, it seems like people are acting like our reaction is over the top
Aug 07th 2017
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           imo, it's the tone that's being used in here that's causing the backlash
Aug 07th 2017
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                But you have one side saying it's a big deal to them
Aug 07th 2017
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      Right. Who in here has been shamed?
Aug 07th 2017
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      the subject is a bit more widespread than the 12 of us in here lol
Aug 07th 2017
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           Well, Herpes is real. No body wants it. Facts B!
Aug 07th 2017
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      what was the purpose of this post?
Aug 07th 2017
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           We're taking about User putting his self out there dirty
Aug 07th 2017
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           ^ see?
Aug 07th 2017
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                But im not shaming Usher.
Aug 08th 2017
                But im not shaming Usher.
Aug 08th 2017
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                *farts*
Aug 08th 2017
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                     SO that's your fetish, huh?
Aug 08th 2017
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                Lol he s not shaming him for having a disease or infection
Aug 08th 2017
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                     *belches*
Aug 08th 2017
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           you mean post 1 and 2?
Aug 07th 2017
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                i was post #3.
Aug 07th 2017
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                     so post 1 and 2 were you before you correct?
Aug 07th 2017
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                          thanks. i did what i could.
Aug 07th 2017
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                          Ha
Aug 08th 2017
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For all the skepticism toward Big Pharma that we see around here,
Aug 07th 2017
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Man fuk whatchall tawnbout. Bet his next album gonna Bump!
Aug 07th 2017
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Lmao
Aug 07th 2017
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so she aint even infected?!
Aug 07th 2017
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Wait. What now?
Aug 08th 2017
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Hold up? You talking about the actual story? LoL
Aug 08th 2017
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He's right one of them tested negative
Aug 08th 2017
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      Damn.. I wonder if she has a case?
Aug 08th 2017
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           pretty sure it is a crime, depending on the state.
Aug 08th 2017
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           it can be...some states consider it sexual battery to not disclose
Aug 08th 2017
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           maybe it's just a REACTION to not disclosing you have herpes?
Aug 08th 2017
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                it is...an overreaction is a reaction
Aug 08th 2017
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                     cool.. but no one is saying these folks need to go to an island and die
Aug 08th 2017
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                          lmao right.
Aug 08th 2017
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                          nobody is saying that
Aug 08th 2017
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                               grow up? what a weird thing to say
Aug 08th 2017
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           I don't know
Aug 08th 2017
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The stigma is the reason she thinks she
Aug 08th 2017
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      you're right. the stigma is way bigger than it should be.
Aug 08th 2017
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holy fuck...people so small minded
Aug 08th 2017
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Yup
Aug 08th 2017
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      yall niggas won't date a woman with wedge heels or a weave
Aug 08th 2017
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           cool deflection bro...make your reach funnier next time
Aug 08th 2017
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           slight reach but far from a delfection
Aug 08th 2017
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           Right. It's an overreaction for a fake overreaction. LOL
Aug 08th 2017
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                trying to shame us into sleeping with people with herpes
Aug 08th 2017
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fuck it.. lemme give it a shot
Aug 08th 2017
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lolol you gonna hurt these dudes feelings man
Aug 08th 2017
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knew this fioooonnne chick in college...yada yada yada
Aug 08th 2017
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OK. There is a Stigma with most diseases - I don't think it's fair
Aug 08th 2017
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      exactly...losing a job has a stigma and can cause people to be suicidal
Aug 08th 2017
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      Being a shiftless bum that can't keep a job has a deserved stigma
Aug 08th 2017
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      But there's a lot of shitting on people that don't have a problem
Aug 08th 2017
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      you should make a post about someone allegedly slinging this around then
Aug 08th 2017
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      pssh, that post has been made here and elsewhere millions of times...
Aug 08th 2017
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      i jsut don't get the point of comparing it to other stuff. Yeah no one w...
Aug 08th 2017
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           I think the post was just a teachable moment about the bigger issue
Aug 08th 2017
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                fixed it for you.
Aug 08th 2017
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                     lol..my bad, I didn't realize y'all was all putting bids in for Ursher l...
Aug 08th 2017
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      No on most of that list
Aug 08th 2017
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      WTF? you can fix bad credit bruh...
Aug 08th 2017
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           lol. still. my point remains....there are far worse things to dead a rel...
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           but this ain't the STD olympics bruh
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           not without resources
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                yall.niggas.stupid.
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                lol
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                     yeah, that's all.
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      Because we started with let it burn jokes
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      wait, the Usher song title jokes got this ball rolling?
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      you saw what sowhat said..he had to jump in at post 3 to change the tone
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      that fool stay lying to bam up a post with his "teachable moments"
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      this is not the only place people are talking about this
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      So y'all jumped from let it burn jokes - about Usher to Shaming
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      exactly if we were herpes shaming we'd be making fun of those that
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      Y'all acting brand new
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      Dude. The post was about Usher and his Grimy ways
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      I didn't know Usher had such loyal followers in his congregation
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           speaking of reaching
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           post #3
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           i don't own a single Usher song.
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                LIES!
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                     not a fan.
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      but there's people with all types of baggage
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      it's not
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      okay, fine.
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           whoa... whoa... somewhat his fault?
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           that's what you ppl always want - you want to see me judge ppl
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                no one cares wants you to do anything besides calm the fuck down
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                     i should just let you get your juvenile jollies on.
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                          well, when it comes to Usher, yeah..
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                               me? victim?
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                                    yeah you are. you always do. that's your thing bruh.
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                                         i do it well. and you ppl make lots of room for it
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                                              yes play the victim...we know.
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                                                   i play the victim, you play the fool.
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           So then it's on me to ask the person if they have it prior to the act?
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                smh, the irony
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                no it's on you to LOOK AT HER GENITALS AND SEE
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                     lol
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                          the stigma makes it difficult to disclose.
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There's a 90% chance that 99% of everyone in this post has been
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you got it?
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if people were properly informed
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Not that i'm aware of. Turned out I had a bad case of jock itch
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      one time the mesh from the swimming trunks caused friction
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nice Yogi Berra statistics
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ignorance is bliss fam
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you know it is possible to not want to sleep w/ a person with herpes
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Seriously. Lotta back & forth in here on apples and oranges
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they don't see it as overboard
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its two different conversations though
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      maybe it is, but its pretty standard in these type of public discussions
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           lol ya'll are saying that most of us have it as well lmao.
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                and who are you?
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                someone pretty important by the fact that you continue to feel the need
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                     naw, you ain't shit either. Just like herpes.
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                i dont think anyone went particularly ham
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                     sowhat went ham...he tried to change the tone of the post in post 3.
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hello.
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You're asserting that herpe's ain't shit and the stigma is overblown
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      i took it as "aint sh*t" in comparison to the "stigma"
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      exactly
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      Doesn't make it any less inaccurate
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           thats fine but i see how it can be merged into a single discussion
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      bless your heart.
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           RE: bless your heart.
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i don't know about people's reactions in general. I know about the
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it's gonna be ok lol.
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      lol
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This is the MOST Politically Correct Response In Here.
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      you don't even know what 'politically correct' means.
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      You're overly emotional about this non issue.
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           Fuck you, rev.
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                lolz. smh.
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                     fuck you rev? lmao..that doesn't even sound right
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                          He's a tortured soul. Struggling within.
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      i'm off "the post" for the most part. i already acknowledged the
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           Man what are you tawn bout?
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                that both parties are right
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Triple Platinum on the way
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sings LOOK AT YOURSELF after seeing attorney and plaintif
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because her being big should be unattractive to Usher
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      maybe.. I don't know what Usher likes
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           stick to your convictions
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                looking at the plaintiff and the attorney..
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is a greenish discharge part of herpes? court papers say...
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'i think herpes is a big deal'
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      for ppl who aren't idiots:
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      you do realize the court papers claimed there was a green discharge
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           how many times must i say this case is BULLSHIT?
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      you actually.. oh my, yeah bruh, you gotta chill out
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      fuck off.
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           Nigga you just... lol
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      he probably stopped reading at 'painful blisters' in the article you pos...
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           neither of you stupid hoes can read.
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                Sheesh you mad
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                     Yip yip yap. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Nigger.
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                          Lolz you in ya feelings...chill bruh, get a drink, live life
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                               He types so angry
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This just in: Usher doesnt have herpes
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sucks that he already gave ol girl 1milly tho smh
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the article says that was dispelled as well
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      lolz i'm just reading the article now. I couldn't get pass that fist pum...
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           Bad English and a credible source... lmao
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lmao the best part of the 'news' these days are the pictures they link
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#313.
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but what about all the jokes people had lined up!?
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      *CLUTCHES THE PEARLS*
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      'DUDE ROAD IN ON A DRAGON'
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      girlymouth niggas
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      Nigga you just typed "this just in" and used a gossip site source
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           yes, I watched you gossip like a girl or a gay man all throughout the po...
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                Uh oh
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                You posting links from Vibe like a real man huh?
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                     you made the post gossiping
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                          lmao... ok
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                               sorry, words have meanings
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                                    today, they call that news.
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                                         "Usher was crippled in a car accident" is news
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                                         tell that to today's media.
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                                              it's "gay" to post about an entertainer.. lmao
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                                              our lead gossip columnist on here was a woman
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                                                   and our lead bitch nigga is you...
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                                                        great.
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                                                             I have no problem admitting my fuck ups.. and that's the difference
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                                                                  thanks for continuing to show us who you are
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                                                                       uhhh, sure...you're welcome
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                                              Im aware of how internet media works
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                                                   a straight man right?
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                                                        a manly man's man
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                                         lmao.. this dude weird
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      That's why they are jokes fam
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           Still trying to save face.
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           you're posting in caps, calling people niggers
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                No one cares what I think yet he replies to every post I make
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                     try as I might I can't do it.
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                          you need jesus
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                          You posted alot there. I didn't read it tho, sorry
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                               I called you a wannabe lawyer and insulted your mother and wife.
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                                    dope legacy bruh...
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                                         https://media1.giphy.com/media/12Nv3nBSCAbLO0/giphy.gif
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           trust, i get it. but w/o the Herpes Fact Squad this post woulda been
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                Defensive? Lol
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Damn niggas owe legs an apology
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Lmao... Usher bout to be sued for fat shaming
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      It's very possible.
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      this lisa bloom lady is slick
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           John Doe and Jane Doe
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                LOL!
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      Are we adding fat shamers to the list of stds worse than herp?
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           most definitely
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           bwahahaha
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How did this post get in the toilet so quickly?
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don't care aka sowhat aka i hate your kids and wife and family
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      Had to change the tone of the post in post 3
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           So it's SoWhat's fault. You think he should apologize?
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                he doesn't know what an apology is.
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                Give'em a chance. He's a lawyer always in argument mode.
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                     objection!
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                     dude had to change the tone of the post, meanwhile he wouldn't do what
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                all the shit talking about family and kids is his way of apologizing
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