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"Having White Friends Comes w/Trauma I Dont Want anymore (swipe)"


  

          

http://afropunk.com/2017/07/white-friends-comes-trauma-im-not-willing-deal-anymore/

I can’t take no ‘mo, White People.

I can’t answer any White People demanding an explanation for why something is “racist”. I can’t take anymore White People sending me videos of Black People being murdered without thinking of how it will affect me. I can’t sit through any more arguments for why race “isn’t always a factor”. And I can’t keep ignoring the cowardice silence when it’s time for White People to confront each other about race.

My dad warned me about White People when I was around 7 or 8. He told me that no matter how close I felt to these people, I would always be first and foremost Black in their mind. And at no time could a Black person rely on a White person to put their privilege on the side if it ever becomes a Me vs. Them situation. As a kid, this was, frankly, another one of my dad’s pessimistic, paranoid lectures. Be on the lookout at all times just…in case. And as an outgoing, compassionate human-being his words rolled off my back. But in time I’ve learned that Daddy-o was onto something and the ugly truth is that in one way or another, White friends, largely, just aren’t safe to have.

I really learned this lesson with White Moms. They stunned me the most. Women who have known me through adolescence, fed me and looked out for me at times, let out lashes of vapor that scared me. These maternal figures have always welcomed me into their homes, embraced me warmly, and made me feel part of their limited restriction “we’d rather you do it in the house” households. The privilege of light skin, perhaps, caused me to appear less threatening to them and a respectable dose of home training meant that these experiences with white families seemed pleasant.

These immersions into white vacuums, places where I shrunk as to not take up too much white space, doing so with an unrealized desperation to re-affirm my normality. As if sharing a meal, sleeping in White folks sheets meant that I wasn’t inherently unsavory, despite the re-enforcements from the outside world.

The first of these times, I was visiting my best friend from middle school. My second trip home in Southern California after moving to Atlanta. My friend, her mom, and were chatting in the kitchen. I had already sent my own mother an SOS text to pick me up. We talked about my new life, how I was adjusting so far from the beach, and whether or not I had found a boyfriend down there. And when I said no to the last, her mother leaned across the table and grabbed my forearm reassuringly and said, “At least now you can meet someone of your own kind.”

It was like a punch in the face. But it was hardly the last time a White elder tried to put me in my place. But it was the first time I allowed myself to acknowledge the malice being spewed at me by a White person I trusted.

With every close relationship I’ve had with a White person, their unconscious but blatant biases against and misunderstandings of Black People, in particular, tends to reveal itself sooner or later. Unprompted and accepting admissions that their Good White parents aren’t racist but would never “let” them date a black person, the tokenizing, the microaggressions, and dismissals of Black pain. The emotional labor, the holding back, the shrinking required to put up with the willful ignorance and mismanaged guilt and resentment of White People is too much.

And the fact of the matter is that I’m finding it impossible to trust any White Person to not, at some point, perpetuate ideologies that oppress me. Being friends with White People is just too fucking hard on my psyche.

  

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Having White Friends Comes w/Trauma I Dont Want anymore (swipe) [View all] , rdhull, Mon Jul-24-17 07:51 AM
 
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Very snowflakey to me.
Jul 24th 2017
1
this is how i feel about most of these navelgazers and whiners today
Jul 24th 2017
11
CORRECTION:
Jul 24th 2017
14
very much so
Jul 24th 2017
102
She sounds young at that point bc she needed her mom to pick her up
Jul 24th 2017
103
      RE: She sounds young at that point bc she needed her mom to pick her up
Jul 25th 2017
183
Pretty much. Plus, the author sounded like she was more offended
Jul 24th 2017
104
Black friends come with their own set of unique issues as well
Jul 24th 2017
2
lol
Jul 24th 2017
3
RE: Black friends come with their own set of unique issues as well
Jul 24th 2017
4
PERFECT gif.
Jul 24th 2017
25
      Gleaned any new gems from your peeps on Stormfront or Breitbart ?
Jul 24th 2017
28
           I never went to SF and I gave up on BB back in march
Jul 24th 2017
41
                Just giving you a hard time
Jul 24th 2017
108
DUNT DUNT DUNNNAHHH!!!!
Jul 24th 2017
8
Did you just "what about Black on Black crime" us?
Jul 24th 2017
19
you could replace black and white with Palestinian and Israeli
Jul 24th 2017
26
Yeah you're doing the "what about Black on Black crime" dance.
Jul 24th 2017
29
you're right Boogie we're a perfect culture without blemish
Jul 24th 2017
30
      I said exactly the opposite in reply 19
Jul 24th 2017
37
           you wen't right into a quasi "we have no agency" reply...
Jul 24th 2017
46
                That's not what I said. It's a conclusion you had to jump to in order t...
Jul 24th 2017
51
                     I said 'at first' implying I re-read your reply to understand it better
Jul 24th 2017
54
                     ...
Jul 24th 2017
55
                          Write about what? Improving black friendships? Smarter men have
Jul 24th 2017
64
                               Ok then your point is moot if it's been done.
Jul 24th 2017
71
                                    Maybe it is
Jul 24th 2017
72
                     He def Black on Black crimed this topic
Jul 24th 2017
60
                          spare me
Jul 24th 2017
65
                               You tapping out or nah?
Jul 24th 2017
67
                                    https://media.giphy.com/media/3KWHzadf2Iq64/giphy.gif
Jul 24th 2017
73
                                         https://media.giphy.com/media/H1wuBsl5UqIsU/giphy.gif
Jul 24th 2017
77
                                              I guess when your own people address you like that you find it to be ok
Jul 24th 2017
79
                                                   I have no idea what you are referring to but keep deflecting
Jul 24th 2017
81
                                                        ok but how is your response not deflecting? That behavior isn't unique
Jul 24th 2017
83
                                                             peace
Jul 24th 2017
85
                                                                  indeed
Jul 24th 2017
92
stop it
Jul 24th 2017
44
it ain't the first time he's done this
Jul 24th 2017
33
      I'm more concerned with discussing ways we can unify
Jul 24th 2017
40
           sure thing guy.. sure thing
Jul 24th 2017
45
           Ever seen me drop an N bomb out of love for my people?
Jul 24th 2017
48
                Bruh... not like this.
Jul 24th 2017
52
           Interracially or Intraracially?
Jul 24th 2017
50
                All I know is white people aren't going to change and black people can
Jul 24th 2017
56
                     Good luck and take care
Jul 24th 2017
59
                          You too. I've enjoyed your personal attacks during our exchanges
Jul 24th 2017
70
You appear cool intellectual but
Jul 24th 2017
34
I'm not cool. Never have been and never will be
Jul 24th 2017
39
Geez. Cool to me.
Jul 25th 2017
113
      Hey that's on me for receiving that poorly
Jul 25th 2017
117
LOL @ hidden hotep tendencies. i'm stealing that
Aug 16th 2017
237
are you a revolutionary or aint you?
Jul 24th 2017
61
https://youtu.be/sgqGiVK4P94?t=75
Jul 24th 2017
74
      I know that, Im playin with you
Jul 24th 2017
75
           it's all good no harm no foul
Jul 24th 2017
80
So you're saying you don't trust Black people?
Jul 24th 2017
109
      #96 is what I'm really trying to say
Jul 24th 2017
110
i almost beat my boy's ass in a moving vehicle the other night cause of ...
Jul 24th 2017
5
I don't listen to what white folks consider "ghetto."
Jul 24th 2017
106
this right here:
Aug 16th 2017
238
      Well fuck.
Aug 16th 2017
240
i love educating my white friends..
Jul 24th 2017
6
Lmao... not like this
Jul 24th 2017
9
I can work any crowd nigga..
Jul 24th 2017
10
      They playing you
Jul 24th 2017
13
           y'all some punks. nm
Jul 24th 2017
17
smh
Jul 24th 2017
15
They playing you, Trin, because this isn't correct:
Jul 24th 2017
18
      Bingo. Feigned ignorance is part of the game. n/m
Jul 24th 2017
21
      for one... who cares, lol
Jul 24th 2017
22
           I'm offended you think you aren't
Jul 24th 2017
35
           I'm offended that you're offended
Jul 24th 2017
42
                lol
Jul 24th 2017
58
way to blue ball the reader
Jul 24th 2017
7
"White friends?"
Jul 24th 2017
12
Pretty much
Jul 24th 2017
31
RE: desperation to re-affirm my normality
Jul 24th 2017
16
White kid working at the movie theatre gave me a free candybar
Jul 24th 2017
20
lol, all I could think of was: 1. Manager sees candy bar missing...
Jul 24th 2017
23
lol damn
Jul 24th 2017
36
RE: desperation to re-affirm my normality
Jul 24th 2017
24
      RE: desperation to re-affirm my normality
Jul 24th 2017
32
      i experienced somewhat of the same thing
Jul 24th 2017
38
Once you let go of the need for their embrace, you'll feel so much
Jul 24th 2017
27
you can love me or hate me...edah or (c)
Jul 24th 2017
43
I agree...
Jul 24th 2017
57
As a white male
Jul 24th 2017
47
RE: Corrected:
Jul 24th 2017
49
Nah, that's different.
Jul 24th 2017
53
      RE: Speak for yourself.
Jul 24th 2017
62
           I think she was very specific in the article.
Jul 24th 2017
66
                RE: Wait, we're still talking about the article?
Jul 24th 2017
76
                     well, we are trying but you know, what about Black on Black crime?
Jul 24th 2017
78
                          non sequitur as crime is not the issue nor has it been addressed as such
Jul 24th 2017
82
                          the issue is white friendship trauma but you don't want to speak on it
Jul 24th 2017
84
                          I did speak on it
Jul 24th 2017
95
                          an action or activity that, although not illegal, is considered to be ev...
Jul 24th 2017
86
                          RE: Jesus christ, this topic is forcing me to dip into my xanax stash.
Jul 24th 2017
87
                               u white?
Jul 24th 2017
88
                                    RE: Unabashedly so.
Jul 24th 2017
90
                                         See, this is why Atillah
Jul 24th 2017
94
                                              That part I get. I don't disagree with the authors lack of interest
Jul 24th 2017
96
RE: Although, actual LOL at "trauma."
Jul 24th 2017
63
As a white person, you definitely don't get to determine this.
Jul 24th 2017
91
RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBCq8XDgrP0
Jul 24th 2017
100
      No outrage needed to negate your contribution here
Jul 25th 2017
124
           RE: That was a string of correctly spelled words.
Jul 25th 2017
132
                Yes, Black people can spell... very necessary words, btw
Jul 25th 2017
137
                     RE: I'm not sure we're on the same page here, man.
Jul 25th 2017
142
                          Always
Jul 25th 2017
143
400 years is a helluva threshold imho
Jul 24th 2017
93
      RE: I mean, I get what both of you are saying.
Jul 24th 2017
98
           life-long dehumanizing experiences can never be overrated
Jul 24th 2017
99
                RE: Tell me about it.
Jul 24th 2017
101
rdhull - Hold up. You looking for a Boyfriend? Wait, what?
Jul 24th 2017
68
Hey there sexy
Jul 24th 2017
69
      Thanks for the compliment, but you're not my type.
Jul 24th 2017
89
seems like they need a lesson on friends vs. acquaintances
Jul 24th 2017
97
right? my wife needs to learn this
Aug 16th 2017
241
I knew this post would do numbers when I saw it early this morning
Jul 24th 2017
105
Why bother?
Jul 24th 2017
107
What's your take Rdhull?
Jul 24th 2017
111
RE: What's your take Rdhull?
Jul 24th 2017
112
lol
Jul 25th 2017
114
RE: lol
Jul 25th 2017
134
TOTAL HELP ME SING
Jul 25th 2017
192
Either they...
Jul 25th 2017
115
Another quality unmoderated racist post on OKP.
Jul 25th 2017
116
Thank your founding fathers
Jul 25th 2017
118
🔥
Jul 25th 2017
120
oh shit, mods.. what you gonna do about this?
Jul 25th 2017
121
LOL
Jul 25th 2017
122
you poor thing....
Jul 25th 2017
123
damn y'all n##as dead inside. loss hurts.
Jul 25th 2017
119
RE: damn y'all n##as dead inside. loss hurts.
Jul 25th 2017
125
      I think it's setting a boundary for your expectations
Jul 25th 2017
128
      i think we've ALL had to lower those boundaries post-trump tho.
Jul 25th 2017
131
           nah, my wake up came in 5th grade
Jul 25th 2017
145
           Trump plus the police murdering folks changed a lot
Jul 25th 2017
155
           the white man's fuck you to the elite.
Jul 25th 2017
180
           i'm seated behind you, rev. preach *that* way
Jul 26th 2017
202
           this nigga here ain't lowered a GOT damned thing
Jul 26th 2017
196
      Could you explain what you mean by this?
Jul 25th 2017
160
           I got my own take on this. White folks got all the money....
Jul 26th 2017
195
                I think that's a good number of peoples take - no snark or nothin
Jul 26th 2017
197
                thats YOUR take, not mine (thank god)
Aug 15th 2017
236
White people stay going unchecked on this board.
Jul 25th 2017
126
name names
Jul 25th 2017
127
      denny on Monday
Jul 25th 2017
129
      but does denny go unchecked?
Jul 25th 2017
130
           i was joking
Jul 25th 2017
146
      Kilo, Denny, Jon, Austin , J Reynolds, Stringer Bell, handle
Jul 25th 2017
133
           i go unchecked? please explain.
Jul 25th 2017
135
           Asking the question like some of the names are not in this
Jul 25th 2017
139
                oh. it looks like everyone got checked in this post, though.
Jul 25th 2017
141
                Nah this is pushback
Jul 25th 2017
150
                gotcha. thanks for the clarification.
Jul 25th 2017
153
                if they aint banned or punched in the throat then they aint been checked
Jul 25th 2017
193
                     RE: So, solely because I'm white, I deserve to be banned and. . .
Jul 26th 2017
199
                          do you really want the answer to that question ?
Jul 26th 2017
203
                          RE: Nowhere in the previous two posts was there a question.
Jul 27th 2017
204
                          Absolutely.
Jul 27th 2017
205
                               RE: Brilliant.
Jul 27th 2017
207
                LMAO, well played
Jul 25th 2017
147
                     nvm
Jul 25th 2017
151
                     LOL yep he knew
Jul 25th 2017
154
                          nah, i know there are white people here who say out of pocket shit
Jul 25th 2017
156
           RE: What the actual fuck.
Jul 25th 2017
136
           From 0 to lying your ass off in no time.
Jul 25th 2017
138
           RE: Okay. I'm not sure I see it that way, but fine.
Jul 25th 2017
152
                In short you can only recognize your own humanity, not others.
Jul 25th 2017
157
                RE: We all project our own stuff, to a degree.
Jul 25th 2017
161
                     By externalizing it while diminishing hers you override, not project, yo...
Jul 25th 2017
162
                          RE: It's good that you can read minds through text on a screen.
Jul 25th 2017
170
                               RE: It's good that you can read minds through text on a screen.
Jul 25th 2017
171
                               RE: I haven't had "a good one" in years.
Jul 25th 2017
176
                               Why can't u guys just ignore the social element of racism?!?! lmao
Jul 25th 2017
173
                                    RE: Why can't u guys just ignore the social element of racism?!?! lmao
Jul 25th 2017
178
                                    RE: I just hope you use your powers for good.
Jul 25th 2017
182
                                         ^^ Annnd he's entered victim mode
Jul 25th 2017
185
                                         I honestly didn't read it.
Jul 25th 2017
187
                                         You didn't miss anything
Jul 25th 2017
190
                                         RE: And why should you?
Jul 25th 2017
191
                                         RE: Dude, even if I was "in victim mode" I'd be justified.
Jul 25th 2017
188
                                              You wouldn't and you aren't...
Jul 25th 2017
189
                                         aint nobody reading all that shit weirdo.
Jul 25th 2017
194
                                    As I was saying
Jul 25th 2017
184
                Because nothing's forcing you to
Jul 25th 2017
158
                ^^^^
Jul 25th 2017
163
                RE: You can try to rationalize it all you want.
Jul 25th 2017
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                     see 162
Jul 25th 2017
165
                     It's just very obvious now
Jul 25th 2017
166
                     RE: Most people's perpectives are.
Jul 25th 2017
168
                          As long as you understand your perspective here is invalid
Jul 25th 2017
169
                               RE: Say I'm "invalid" again and this may become traumatic for me.
Jul 25th 2017
172
                                    I just need it stated. I don't care if it's traumatic or not.
Jul 25th 2017
174
                                    RE: "I don't care if it's traumatic or not."
Jul 25th 2017
179
                                         And still sprinting
Jul 25th 2017
181
                                    ffs
Jul 25th 2017
175
                                         RE: ikr
Jul 25th 2017
177
                     The peoples court already has a presiding judge
Jul 25th 2017
167
                black people can easily be mislead in their youth to feel accepted
Jul 25th 2017
159
           Why did you respond if you do not want to be a part of this ?
Jul 25th 2017
140
           this is a white fucking response..well played
Jul 25th 2017
148
           Huh ?
Jul 28th 2017
209
                Answering your original question before you changed it
Jul 28th 2017
210
                     LOL nvm. Just saw min. wage post, so you're clearly kidding.
Jul 28th 2017
212
                          Not kidding but the title wasn't min. wage
Jul 28th 2017
215
                               Yea like I said I saw the post. Not sure what you're looking for.
Jul 28th 2017
216
                                    LOL you are the one in this thread asking
Jul 28th 2017
217
                                         So you do write this stuff down. That's ... something.
Jul 28th 2017
218
                                              Interesting
Jul 28th 2017
219
                                                   If you were accused of a crime you didn't commit ...
Jul 28th 2017
220
                                                        LMAO this is like a crime ? A list on a message board
Jul 28th 2017
223
                                                             Fair enough - a better way to put it would be ...
Jul 28th 2017
224
                                                                  Depends on the person
Jul 28th 2017
225
                                                                       I'm not sure what that means but, cool.
Jul 28th 2017
226
You Have No Friends (c) John Henrik Clarke
Jul 25th 2017
144
lol perfect
Jul 25th 2017
149
afropunk, huh? figures.
Jul 25th 2017
186
I've been wondering if this post is representative of Black America
Jul 26th 2017
198
Go through your black and white friends' friends list on Facebook.
Jul 26th 2017
200
I was born and raised in a fantasy.
Jul 26th 2017
201
Nah, it's easier to raise kids with the fantasy than ever before.
Jul 28th 2017
211
      yes and no.. cause one day that fantasy will get popped
Jul 28th 2017
213
      and the fantasy building requires the monitoring of way more stuff
Jul 28th 2017
221
      My Dad has the same story
Jul 28th 2017
214
      My fantasy was specific.
Jul 28th 2017
222
representative of Black America
Jul 27th 2017
206
Here's an extensive study from Toronto
Jul 28th 2017
208
RE: I like how, in this post, I went from "average board contributor". ....
Aug 15th 2017
227
when you're getting run over or shot by cops for no reason
Aug 15th 2017
228
Probably the only time you feel special in an otherwise banal existence
Aug 15th 2017
229
RE: Questo, you let this kind of shit fly the way it has been. . .
Aug 15th 2017
230
      then you would do what? Masturbate about it?
Aug 15th 2017
231
           RE: You've got the wrong idea, man.
Aug 15th 2017
234
                Your president has far worse attached to his name and he's fine
Aug 15th 2017
235
Let them have this post, man. Lol
Aug 15th 2017
232
RE: I just don't get it. I'm an average person on the board.
Aug 15th 2017
233
you whitesplained from jump though
Aug 16th 2017
239
the disproportionate fear and constant "whatabout..." of the
Aug 16th 2017
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