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"Friday politics talk. Do Democrats want purity or do they want to win?"


          

Morning Joe hit on something I've been thinking about for a while.

There's some dude running as a Democrat for mayor in Omaha, Nebraska. A lot of Democrats are pulling their support for him because 8 yrs ago he supported a state senate bill requiring doctors to tell women getting abortions that they had a right to ask for an ultrasound.

That Congressional candidate in GA a few days ago apparently wasn't ideologically pure enough to garner Bernie Sanders' support.

The question is, does a candidate need to have 100% scores on all the progressive benchmarks to be an acceptable candidate? Does the culture/values of their constituency not matter.

About month ago here, someone was saying the Joe Manchins of the Dem party gotta get out now. What other person that will vote with the Dems 75% of the time win in West Virginia??

If progressives demand purity, ain't no Democrats ever going to win seats in Kentucky, Arkansas, Bama, because if the go full on progressive they will be out of line with the values of those populations.

So yeah, do Democrats want to win seats? Or do they want to be pure?

Also talk whatever politics shit that's on your mind here (I fully expect this to go straight balsa)

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Friday politics talk. Do Democrats want purity or do they want to win? [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Apr-21-17 10:24 AM
 
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who knows what they want. My guess would be power over everything
Apr 21st 2017
1
if that was the case they would hold their nose and vote
Apr 21st 2017
11
      It doesn't really seem like either party ever "loses" IDK
Apr 22nd 2017
41
both. and they will get neither
Apr 21st 2017
2
This is misleading
Apr 21st 2017
3
Lol. These are my views. Joe just said it out loud today
Apr 21st 2017
8
All politics are national
Apr 21st 2017
9
      no.. that's not true at all
Apr 21st 2017
13
           Bullshit
Apr 21st 2017
14
           What is wrong with you,????
Apr 21st 2017
16
                I think he's saying the important politics are localized
Apr 21st 2017
17
                But folks aren't saying have the same platform just don't negotiate w/co...
Apr 21st 2017
18
                does local gov or national gov have more of an impact on daily life?
Apr 21st 2017
19
I'm with this
Apr 21st 2017
10
How is ensuring women are informed of their options anti-choice?
Apr 21st 2017
4
How is an unnecessary ultrasound a negotiating point?
Apr 21st 2017
6
Why should anyone but the pregnant woman decide if it's unnecessary?
Apr 21st 2017
26
      Ask the person that introduced the legislation
Apr 21st 2017
27
           I see zero wrong with making sure she knows it's an option if she wants.
Apr 21st 2017
31
                It ain't your body or your health. GTFOH
Apr 21st 2017
32
                     That fact has nothing to do with ensuring patients are informed.
Apr 22nd 2017
34
                          You're trying to make a case for politicians determining relevant info
Apr 22nd 2017
39
                               Wrong
Apr 23rd 2017
53
It's troll bait.
Apr 21st 2017
7
      Yup. its a tactic conservatives have mastered
Apr 21st 2017
20
      Yeah, but its also genuinely revealing that pro-choice are bothered by i...
Apr 21st 2017
25
           the intent of that bill is not to increase a woman's agency
Apr 21st 2017
29
                Is it forcing her to get an ultrasound or letting her know she can?
Apr 21st 2017
30
                     nah, dont duck the point, bruh. what's the intent of the bill?
Apr 21st 2017
33
                          What did the actual bill do? Avoiding that is the duck.
Apr 22nd 2017
35
                          you're not understanding both sides
Apr 22nd 2017
38
                          You're making things up now
Apr 22nd 2017
44
                               being obtuse
Apr 22nd 2017
48
                                    It's not assuming women need to be told what to do
Apr 23rd 2017
51
                          nah. hiding behind "we're just trying to help" is the duck.
Apr 22nd 2017
43
                          This that bullshit. You care more about the intent than the practical
Apr 22nd 2017
36
                               is a woman somehow not allowed to get an ultrasound without the bill?
Apr 22nd 2017
42
                                    Is it possible a young woman might not know one is available?
Apr 22nd 2017
45
                                         so we're still pretending that's the goal of the bill, huh?
Apr 22nd 2017
46
                                         lol, the goal is reproductive health awareness/education for young women...
Apr 22nd 2017
49
                                         Damn, just having her know she can get an ultrasound bothers y'all huh?
Apr 23rd 2017
52
                                              again, if the goal was transparency/education/awareness
Apr 23rd 2017
54
                                                   Deflecting
Apr 23rd 2017
55
I had a more incendiary post title for this very topic.
Apr 21st 2017
5
https://youtu.be/phno9K6fdlI?t=2m7s
Apr 21st 2017
12
Exactly. They need to get their Al Davis on
Apr 21st 2017
15
they are the worst branders and marketers anywhere
Apr 21st 2017
21
Democrats push the message of fairness, justice, hope....
Apr 21st 2017
22
Conservatives took L after L in the Culture Wars and it made them
Apr 21st 2017
24
The Democrats don't feel "behind" because they control Academia and
Apr 21st 2017
23
We're fracturing exactly like the Republicans did.
Apr 21st 2017
28
I wonder, should Dems just cede places like Utah to republicans
Apr 22nd 2017
37
I wonder, should Dems just cede places like Alabama to republicans
Apr 22nd 2017
40
NIGGA YOU JUST DESCRIBED TO WHOLE GOP MO..
Apr 22nd 2017
47
they ain't learned shit from the last year or fifty years.
Apr 22nd 2017
50
More Bluedog democrats
Apr 24th 2017
56

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