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>>Like many rural places in this country. >> >>The DNC and Hillary were goobers for not being able to make >a >>more compelling argument than Trump. > >How would Hillary and the DNC make an argument to someone like >this > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/who-to-trust-when-it-comes-to-health-care-reform-trump-supporters-put-their-faith-in-him/2017/03/16/1c702d58-0a64-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.b5043fb0c259 > >"Ware is a landscaper and often works near Section 8 housing >in the Nashville area, and she becomes furious when she sees >residents who “drive better cars than I do, they have weaves >and hair color better than I can, they have manicures.” As >Ware, who is white, waited in line for the rally to start, a >group of young African American protesters walked by, and she >yelled at them, “Go cash your welfare checks!” > >“He gets penalized on his income taxes, while these people >that don’t know how to pull their pants up can go get it for >free,” said Ware, whose employer covers the full cost of her >health care. “Make it even. Make it balanced.” >
Clearly Hillary and the DNC couldn't because they didn't. 1. Because they didn't really care. And 2. Because they spent a primary delegitimizing the exact policy that would have made a difference in their lives. I think Bernie reaches that voter where Hillary and the establishment DNC can't because he's willing to redirect the anger from other poor people to the other people who are responsible for the plight.
>>I know Bernie (not a Democrat) lost the primary. I stated as >>such above. The point is that those West Virginians (some >not >>Democrats) were willing to vote for him and the party. But >the >>only reason I brought him up is because the thing you are >now >>telling them they should have done is exactly what they >tried >>to choose. >> > > How does someone who was willing to vote for Bernie ignore >all the lies and everything else Trump did before and during >the campaign ?
Because the popular narrative pushed by most people (including the corporate media and DNC) people needed to make a choice. Not voting was also smeared as a choice. Trump was able to succeed because the success of Sanders' populism and all the enthusiasm it entailed was left to diffuse, unless someone else harnessed it. He was able to grab it and put it into his outsider image, but more importantly - he showed up. He went to these rural areas sometimes 4 and 5 times, making empty promises, but at least showing up. Again, if one person promised you everything, and someone else promises you nothing, and you are told you MUST choose, how can you blame them for voting Trump? They were given 2(?) unpopular choices and picked the one that best represented their interests from what they were being told. Had Hillary spent more than 30% of her ads on policy and not negative messaging maybe what she to offer them would have struck a nerve.
>>On POLICY, one candidate made the exact argument you are >>making, and they chose him until they couldn't. Once they >>couldn't have that choice anymore, then it again came down >to >>2 choices: one person saying he would do anything for them >>(though it was clearly a lie) and one saying their industry >>was dead, then tried to walk back the comments. The Clinton >>campaign are goobers for not being able to reach those >>desperate voters who could have been won with just rhetoric. >> > >It's one thing to go from Bernie to not voting at all but to >pick Trump given his history and actions. Why would anyone >believe them or take them serious when they used that excuse >?
See above. They were only given 2 choices, and the shame campaign of "you MUST choose one of these two" backfired on the DNC. They chose the other way.
>>Besides, if you were able to hear lies and vote with your >gut >>for a candidate against your core interests, why can't they? >>No lesser of 2 evils, but a vote for Hillary was always a >vote >>for Trump. She was always the candidate he could possibly >>beat. So thanks for helping to get us in this position. You >>are just as complicit as they are. >> >> > >That argument works for the base of the Republican party but >it falls apart with people who say they were going to vote for >Bernie. >
That argument was made for Clinton supporters who saw her campaign unravel near the end, and the lies be exposed, yet still marched into the booth and punched their ticket for her. If Clinton supporters can reconcile it, I'm sure Trump supporters can as well. I couldn't, which is why I didn't vote for either of them. ________________________________________________ R.I.P. Soulgyal <3 SUPA NERD LLC. Knowledge Meets Nature Musica Negra #13irteen
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