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10. "RE: Plenty of people were fired in relation to Obama and Obamacare"
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123024596

Did you know you could be fired for not removing a political sticker from your car — or even having a beer after work? Lewis Maltby says it's more than possible — it's happened. His new book, Can They Do That? explores rights in the workplace.

As he tells NPR's Ari Shapiro, "Freedom of speech is protected by the First Amendment — but only where the government is concerned.

"What most Americans generally don't know is that the Constitution doesn't apply to private corporations at all."

In terms of monitoring its employees, the list of things a corporation can't do is a short one — it's basically confined to eavesdropping on a personal oral conversation, Maltby said. "Anything else is open season."

And outside the workplace, personal blogs or social media pages on services like Twitter or Facebook offer no refuge.

Asked if workers can be fired for things they write on those sites, Maltby said, "Absolutely. Happens every day."

But not all snooping is meant to be malicious, Maltby said. For instance, a boss who suspects an employee might be about to quit, or is perhaps moonlighting for a competitor, might seek out the worker's personal blog.

The worker might not have been doing any of the things the boss had feared — instead, "your boss sees you blowing off steam about him, takes offense — and you get fired."

And workers have very little legal protection against being fired, said Maltby, who is also the president and founder of the National Workrights Institute.

"I've been getting calls from people for 20 years who've been abused in all sorts of ways," Maltby said. "When I tell them, 'Sorry, you don't have any legal rights,' they literally don't believe me," Maltby said.

Companies need the freedom to run their businesses the way they want — and fire people who are seen as doing a bad job. But, Maltby says, those decisions should be based on legitimate business rationale.

Asked how some practices can persist even though a majority of workers are against them, Maltby points to a key flaw in the job market: workers' need for stable income. The need to pay for things like a home mortgage or a child's education tends to complicate matters.

"It sounds nice in theory to say, 'Walk away, and look for another job,' " Maltby said. "But in practice, most people just can't take that risk. They just put up with it."

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Grubhub said fuck that shit [View all] , select_from_where, Thu Nov-10-16 09:31 PM
 
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That's not good either
Nov 10th 2016
1
nah fuck that bruh. conservative view is, their business their rules
Nov 10th 2016
2
Nah.
Nov 10th 2016
3
RE: That's not good either
Nov 10th 2016
4
Did you honestly read the letter? What's "not good" about it?
Nov 10th 2016
5
Homie basically said...we will not tolerate build the wall and white pow...
Nov 11th 2016
20
hope he don't get sued
Nov 11th 2016
6
is this even legal?
Nov 11th 2016
7
irreconcilable differences
Nov 11th 2016
8
Plenty of people were fired in relation to Obama and Obamacare
Nov 11th 2016
9
I'm not sure Trump's speeches would even be legal in Canada.
Nov 11th 2016
11
i see most people in this thread didn't read the letter
Nov 11th 2016
12
what letter
Nov 11th 2016
13
      right
Nov 11th 2016
14
           look inside my post
Nov 11th 2016
15
SMH people are losing their damn minds
Nov 11th 2016
16
False equivalency here.
Nov 11th 2016
17
      Huh? Most people voted for Hilary or Trump
Nov 11th 2016
21
Dude screamed on people that agree with the rhetoric, not the person
Nov 11th 2016
18
Privileged little shit.
Nov 11th 2016
19
come get your kids
Nov 11th 2016
22
ok, so I read the letter..lol
Nov 11th 2016
23

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