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35. "Compare it to the one Bernie just gave"
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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/03/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-speech-utah

Bernie Sanders Walks a Tightrope in First Middle East Speech
—By Tim Murphy | Mon Mar. 21, 2016 7:24 PM EDT

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On Monday, Bernie Sanders did something his campaign has been toying with for months: He gave a speech laying out his vision for Middle East peace. With the other four remaining major party candidates traveling to Washington, DC, to speak at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference, Sanders opted to stay in Utah, where he is banking on a strong showing in Tuesday's Democratic caucus. Prior to addressing a packed Salt Lake City gymnasium, he spoke to a smaller crowd, offering the speech his people say he would have delivered at AIPAC.

"A lasting a peace will have to recognize Palestinians are entitled to control their own lives, and there is nothing human life needs more than water."
Consistent with his ongoing critique of economic inequality, Sanders, who is Jewish and spent time at a kibbutz after college, offered a plea for a more humane handling of the Israel–Palestine conflict. "To be successful, we have to be a friend not only to Israel, but to the Palestinian people, where in Gaza, they suffer from an unemployment rate of 44 percent—the highest in the world—and a poverty rate nearly equal to that," Sanders said, according to a prepared text of his remarks.

Israel, he argued, is compounding the suffering with its own aggressive policies. Sanders called on Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu to pull back settlements in the West Bank and turn over hundreds of millions of shekels in tax revenue to Palestinians. Peace, he also said, "will mean a sustainable and equitable distribution of precious water resources so that Israel and Palestine can both thrive as neighbors…Right now, Israel controls 80 percent of the water reserves in the West Bank. Inadequate water supply has contributed to the degradation and desertification of Palestinian land. A lasting a peace will have to recognize Palestinians are entitled to control their own lives, and there is nothing human life needs more than water."


As he moved on to a rehashing of his positions on ISIS and the Iran nuclear deal, Sanders hit on familiar themes, framing the failure of Middle Eastern nations to stop ISIS, in part, as a failure of wealthy elites. If Qatar could spend $200 billion on World Cup soccer stadiums, he said, it could surely spend as much fighting terrorists. Singling out Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, both of which have benefited from America's defense budget, Sanders added that, "wealthy and powerful nations in the region can no longer expect the United States to do their work for them."

"It is easy to use a war to remove a tyrant from power—but it is much more difficult to prevent total chaos afterward."
Last November, Sanders talked about his plans to fight ISIS as part of a larger policy speech on democratic socialism, but after initially hinting that a major foreign policy address would follow, his campaign backed down. During debates, he's often pivoted away from foreign policy to focus on domestic issues. But national security is one area where the differences between he and Hillary Clinton—and for that matter, the entire Republican field—are stark. Although he never mentioned Clinton by name, he acknowledged his Democratic rival in passing by taking a shot at one of their biggest areas of disagreement, military interventions.

"It is easy to use a war to remove a tyrant from power—but it is much more difficult to prevent total chaos afterward," Sanders said. "Just look at the cost we have paid in Iraq—a war I was proud to oppose. Just look at the chaos in Libya. It is my firm belief that the test of a great nation, with the most powerful military on Earth, is not how many wars we can engage in, but how we can use our strength to resolve international conflicts in a peaceful way."

You can read his speech here:
https://berniesanders.com/sanders-outlines-middle-east-policy/

  

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AIPAC Conference [View all] , Vex_id, Mon Mar-21-16 09:11 AM
 
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no, they're different.
Mar 21st 2016
1
oooh, that good Bern
Mar 21st 2016
2
Hooray for compromising principles!!
Mar 21st 2016
9
      *shrugs*
Mar 21st 2016
14
      Contradiction and compromise are not the same.
Mar 21st 2016
40
           awesome.
Mar 21st 2016
43
      Compromising principles is how politics works, man...
Mar 21st 2016
19
I thought Bern's reasoning
Mar 21st 2016
3
RE: I thought Bern's reasoning
Mar 21st 2016
4
But...
Mar 21st 2016
28
      RE: But...
Mar 21st 2016
30
He's the Dick Cheney gangster of Israel.
Mar 21st 2016
31
      yep. a total irredemable asswipe.
Mar 21st 2016
64
      He's also more successful at inciting violence than Trump.
Mar 21st 2016
66
"Has even one HRC supporter denounced her disgusting speech today?"
Mar 21st 2016
5
i soundly denounce the speech.
Mar 21st 2016
6
RE: i soundly denounce the speech.
Mar 21st 2016
7
yup
Mar 21st 2016
11
Yeah.
Mar 21st 2016
29
DAMN
Mar 21st 2016
10
      I've never seen a presidential candidate with such unshakeable integrity
Mar 21st 2016
44
           I feel the same way.
Mar 21st 2016
49
           His previous views on Israel were challenged hard
Mar 21st 2016
51
           Ralph Nader was like that. Third party Green folks
Mar 21st 2016
50
           Nader didn't have the consistent record that Sanders boasts
Mar 21st 2016
54
           Exactly. I'm never not proud to support him nm
Mar 21st 2016
59
           see Ron Paul in 2012
Mar 22nd 2016
72
                His views include denying service based on race and
Mar 22nd 2016
73
                     lol, this reads like a post from addictinginfo.org
Mar 30th 2016
79
So we're clear. This is politics, right?
Mar 21st 2016
8
We see it. That game is the whole point.
Mar 21st 2016
12
      It won't end. The fact that you wish it away won't make it so...
Mar 21st 2016
13
           While your cynicism is certainly understandable
Mar 21st 2016
15
           that's great.
Mar 21st 2016
16
           local/mid-term elections are what's most important moving forward
Mar 21st 2016
18
           word.
Mar 21st 2016
21
           Someone made a reference google doc to support this
Mar 21st 2016
32
                That's fantastic work - thanks for sharing.
Mar 21st 2016
33
                cool list
Mar 22nd 2016
78
           Why would we ever do this?
Mar 21st 2016
38
                there's always suicide, i guess.
Mar 21st 2016
42
                     Keep joking you gotta live here too nm
Mar 21st 2016
52
                          no, i don't.
Mar 21st 2016
53
           It's not cynicism and your "growing electorate" isn't new...
Mar 21st 2016
17
                k.
Mar 21st 2016
20
                Uprooted status quo operatives on Foreign Policy?
Mar 21st 2016
23
                     RE: Uprooted status quo operatives on Foreign Policy?
Mar 21st 2016
24
                          I have to disagree with you on Kerry
Mar 21st 2016
61
                               RE: I have to disagree here. Although HRC is well to Obama's right...
Mar 21st 2016
63
                Unless the many millions of supporters are all naive
Mar 21st 2016
48
           True. All we need is 51% to wish it away.
Mar 21st 2016
36
                ^^^
Mar 21st 2016
56
                Nail on the head.
Mar 21st 2016
68
                     Point is, he said all that for a reason.
Mar 21st 2016
70
Kasich now bowing to AIPAC
Mar 21st 2016
22
Obama's AIPAC Speech---2008 (Swipe)
Mar 21st 2016
25
I'm sure glad that 2016 Obama has grown considerably from that moment
Mar 21st 2016
26
      Conceivably she can be turned then.
Mar 21st 2016
27
      RE: Conceivably she can be turned then.
Mar 21st 2016
34
      oh well then.
Mar 21st 2016
37
      Whats the incentive if you're with her either way? Nm
Mar 21st 2016
39
           for sure.
Mar 21st 2016
41
      I can only hope Hillary does the same.
Mar 21st 2016
65
im in DC all week, got bum rushed by the crowd
Mar 21st 2016
45
Sanders on Netanyahu tonight (via Chris Hayes):
Mar 21st 2016
46
probably Malia.
Mar 21st 2016
47
I'd guess it's the candidate Obama is actually supporting.
Mar 21st 2016
57
      Interesting - there's been no formal endorsement of Clinton.
Mar 21st 2016
58
           LOL. Do you follow the news?
Mar 21st 2016
60
                Apparently you don't.
Mar 21st 2016
62
                     I'd be surprised by this level of wishful thinking...
Mar 21st 2016
67
                          Well - If I were Obama I would remain neutral as well
Mar 21st 2016
69
                               Wow, that's the best you've got?
Mar 21st 2016
71
great avi...
Mar 21st 2016
55
it's bizarre tomme that the sole Jewish candidate
Mar 22nd 2016
74
Hillary isn't compromising her principles in this speech
Mar 22nd 2016
75
i'm really excited about all the war that's coming.
Mar 22nd 2016
76
      It will be great for cable news ratings n/m
Mar 22nd 2016
77

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