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Wed Mar-02-16 12:39 PM

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"I cant fuck with Bernie."


  

          

Confession.

I've been trying to make sense of this

But...

I cant get on the Bernie train.
He has good ideas. He marched with black people. He's Jewish and thats novel.
90% of my friends are rooting hard for his platform.

I'm not 100% Clinton but in my mind she is a known-known.
She is deeply fucking problematic this is true.




This whole Sanders circus is bring up feelings of bitterness for me because I think I am souring on people and fake mass optimism.

I keep thinking back to the high-low shift that happened with Obama. Hopes were sky sky SKY high and then when he didn't pan out to be a rainbow shitting magical negro everyone turned into a bunch of crying babies.

I cant help but think the same thing is going to happen to Bernie. I believe people have a very juvenile view of the world and believe politics/policy/infrastructure is a nimble vehicle when it's really the opposite.

A lot of people want a president to "get in there and raise some hell brother" which is why Trump has been picking up, he is selling us on the 'political outsider' angle. One who will bend the rules to make things great again.

I'm not ready to handle the screams of mass disappointment when its revealed that at the end of the day Bernie like all others is just a politician. He might have some great ideas but he still has to exist in a system of checks and balances.

I often wonder how differently the world would be if people were this passionate about local elections.


For the record, if Bernie goes all the way then I am voting like all hell for him to make sure he gets the job.

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I cant fuck with Bernie. [View all] , double negative, Wed Mar-02-16 12:39 PM
 
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i'm w/you.
Mar 02nd 2016
1
This is what absolutely kills me.
Mar 02nd 2016
20
      i agree.
Mar 02nd 2016
23
      this is how the right wing hijacked the whole process. voter ID
Mar 02nd 2016
35
           it's a campaign finance/media issue as well.
Mar 02nd 2016
43
Lol good grief
Mar 02nd 2016
2
You are explaining the point I just made. Thanks
Mar 02nd 2016
4
lol. exactly. nm
Mar 02nd 2016
31
I didnt want your black, magical, rainbow shitting strawman tho.
Mar 03rd 2016
135
      his sounds better tho
Mar 04th 2016
140
If you thought he ran as a progressive,
Mar 02nd 2016
13
I can, but he needs to start talking about something else
Mar 02nd 2016
3
This reads like Hillary fans have no expectations
Mar 02nd 2016
5
that wasnt the intention
Mar 02nd 2016
6
The status quo we can lukewarmly support! Maybe!
Mar 02nd 2016
7
Lol, exactly.
Mar 02nd 2016
19
My cynical Support for Hillary is that why the game needs changing
Mar 02nd 2016
9
      same here.
Mar 02nd 2016
24
      right? i appreciate the hell outta bernie pushing her way left.
Mar 02nd 2016
39
      I love Elizabeth Warren but I don't think she would be my ideal candidat...
Mar 02nd 2016
46
      You're one of the few I've seen actually use the word support....
Mar 02nd 2016
48
      i know more than one person who's excited about her as POTUS.
Mar 02nd 2016
73
           cool
Mar 02nd 2016
104
      .
Mar 03rd 2016
132
the only people "deeply fucking problematic" are Trump & Cruz
Mar 02nd 2016
8
nah, Hillary vs. Bernie is fine. This is the time to do it
Mar 02nd 2016
11
of course. i wasn't taking issue with that
Mar 02nd 2016
12
Ashley Williams was assaulted by HRC supporters when they
Mar 02nd 2016
18
RE: Ashley Williams was assaulted by HRC supporters when they
Mar 02nd 2016
21
U & DAMALI ARE CORRECT ABOUT ASHLEY, MY APOLOGIES DAMALI!
Mar 02nd 2016
33
      RE: U & DAMALI ARE CORRECT ABOUT ASHLEY, MY APOLOGIES DAMALI!
Mar 02nd 2016
37
RE: Ashley Williams was assaulted by HRC supporters when they
Mar 02nd 2016
28
RE: of course. i wasn't taking issue with that
Mar 02nd 2016
22
"deeply fucking problematic" is a PERFECT way to describe her
Mar 02nd 2016
30
yup
Mar 02nd 2016
27
The woman who wanted to bring young black super-predators to heel
Mar 02nd 2016
17
than Donald or Ted Cruz? 1000 times yes.
Mar 03rd 2016
131
the Hillary vs. Bernie thing is fine as long as supporters of either
Mar 02nd 2016
25
      In a weirdly optimistic sort of way i see this happening on the
Mar 02nd 2016
32
      i think so too.
Mar 02nd 2016
80
      There's one distinction that makes this race different though.
Mar 02nd 2016
42
           for the party that claims to be nuanced/rational
Mar 02nd 2016
52
           I'm just pointing out that the same rules don't apply.
Mar 02nd 2016
54
                people are gonna talk about it, so we need to talk about it
Mar 02nd 2016
72
           'we'?
Mar 02nd 2016
82
He's my dude, and I'll vote for him as long as I can
Mar 02nd 2016
10
^^^^^
Mar 02nd 2016
53
agree..folks falling for the Bernie as the new hope
Mar 02nd 2016
14
You have to understand the whole thing is manipulated to begin with
Mar 02nd 2016
15
this country has to take baby steps in either direction
Mar 02nd 2016
16
I'm glad....
Mar 02nd 2016
26
the prospect of free higher ed if the youth continue mobilizing is huge
Mar 02nd 2016
29
i dont know whats worse..Trump supporters or auto Hillary voters..
Mar 02nd 2016
34
RE: i dont know whats worse..Trump supporters or auto Hillary voters..
Mar 02nd 2016
36
easy call. Trump supporters are the worst.
Mar 02nd 2016
38
They're worse, but they're unlikely to win him the election...
Mar 02nd 2016
40
      RE: They're worse, but they're unlikely to win him the election...
Mar 02nd 2016
56
Which side of a coin is worth more? Same answer different coin.
Mar 02nd 2016
41
How many of us remember the "Gore is no better than Bush" talk?
Mar 02nd 2016
44
I'll never vote for Hillary....
Mar 02nd 2016
47
Yup, that's precisely the kind of talk.
Mar 02nd 2016
51
it's not childish at all
Mar 02nd 2016
55
      That's a matter of opinion,
Mar 02nd 2016
57
           I thought all that hanging chad business elected GWB?
Mar 02nd 2016
59
           You're misinformed.
Mar 02nd 2016
61
           We all are. So there's no validity to the election being stolen?
Mar 02nd 2016
65
                a supreme court selection not an election.
Mar 02nd 2016
68
                     I stand corrected.
Mar 02nd 2016
88
           RE: I thought all that hanging chad business elected GWB?
Mar 02nd 2016
75
           RE: That's a matter of opinion,
Mar 02nd 2016
60
           lol, fear monger much?
Mar 02nd 2016
62
           lol, misplace blame much?
Mar 02nd 2016
70
                cant have it both ways fam..You blaming the US voters for Bush...
Mar 02nd 2016
92
                     Wait, so Sanders's speech had an effect on something?
Mar 02nd 2016
105
                          so only votes that win, matter?
Mar 04th 2016
141
           ..and Hillary voted to go to Iraq
Mar 02nd 2016
63
           RE: ..and Hillary voted to go to Iraq
Mar 02nd 2016
67
                but Hillary did vote to go into Iraq.
Mar 02nd 2016
79
                     she voted for all of the wars and she's STILL a better choice
Mar 02nd 2016
85
                          she's still a better choice, but she still voted for that shit
Mar 02nd 2016
91
                               sure.
Mar 02nd 2016
99
           Al Gore did it perfectly good job boning himself in the '00 election
Mar 02nd 2016
93
I find this thinking completely and totally illogical.
Mar 02nd 2016
74
      it's only acceptable from ppl too young to recall the 2000 election.
Mar 02nd 2016
78
           Gore was a weak candidate who couldn't carry his home state
Mar 02nd 2016
98
                uh huh.
Mar 02nd 2016
100
The problem I have
Mar 02nd 2016
69
You seem to be neglecting the possibility,
Mar 02nd 2016
89
      This is why so many of us are so anti Hillary and Trump though
Mar 02nd 2016
103
      RE: This is why so many of us are so anti Hillary and Trump though
Mar 02nd 2016
107
           i typed up a point by point thing but it seems pretty useless
Mar 02nd 2016
122
      Agreed.
Mar 02nd 2016
108
           the difference between the right and the left
Mar 02nd 2016
113
                If that were true Rick Santorum would have won a nomination.
Mar 02nd 2016
120
                1) you're ignoring how this is working everywhere but the presidency
Mar 02nd 2016
123
                     RE: 1) you're ignoring how this is working everywhere but the presidency
Mar 02nd 2016
127
                I'm not talking about the difference between two parties
Mar 02nd 2016
124
i voted for Nader. LOL
Mar 02nd 2016
76
Thought it was bullshit back then. Voted for Nader anyway. In California
Mar 02nd 2016
86
      Sounds about right
Mar 02nd 2016
94
i'm not into politics at all, but this seems like the worst collection o...
Mar 02nd 2016
45
On the contrary.
Mar 02nd 2016
49
And what do the people in congress believe? Not that.
Mar 02nd 2016
58
So.....
Mar 02nd 2016
64
Doesn't matter because of congress pretty much sums it up.
Mar 02nd 2016
95
most of congress is bought & paid for by special intrest groups
Mar 02nd 2016
66
      i don't have time to travel to DC to lobby my congressppl.
Mar 02nd 2016
83
           jesus christ
Mar 02nd 2016
97
                *shrugs*
Mar 02nd 2016
101
Maybe so, but the candidates I hear the most about are hilarious and
Mar 02nd 2016
112
      Honestly....
Mar 02nd 2016
126
           My problem with Bernie
Mar 02nd 2016
128
                there are working models for how to do what he's proposing though
Mar 04th 2016
142
someone on tv last night said
Mar 02nd 2016
71
The 2012 GOP slate was every bit the clown car as this one
Mar 03rd 2016
134
      Nah. 2012 debates didn't literally look like Jerry Springer episdoes
Mar 03rd 2016
136
aka I have no hope and refuse to even try.
Mar 02nd 2016
50
sure, yeah.
Mar 02nd 2016
77
Democratic Party superdelegates are undemocratic
Mar 02nd 2016
81
RE: Democratic Party superdelegates are undemocratic
Mar 02nd 2016
106
i love Bernie. Too many of his supporters have become ridiculous
Mar 02nd 2016
84
I really think that's a function of "people on the Internet are obnoxiou...
Mar 02nd 2016
87
True that. I have a couple friends doing it though
Mar 02nd 2016
90
      Oh, I've certainly got them on my FB timeline as well.
Mar 02nd 2016
96
           ha. i don't think i have either one of these
Mar 02nd 2016
102
This also is fascinating to me.
Mar 02nd 2016
119
      Where did i say anything about my vote?
Mar 02nd 2016
121
I can't fuck with healthy food.
Mar 02nd 2016
109
I can't be snarked into supporting any candidate for political office.
Mar 02nd 2016
110
      k.
Mar 02nd 2016
111
      Congratulations you're an obtuse dick nm
Mar 02nd 2016
114
           Thanks.
Mar 02nd 2016
117
If you don't vote for Bernie Sanders and you're a progressive?
Mar 02nd 2016
115
Keep in mind that I'm a Bernie voter, but...
Mar 02nd 2016
125
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 03rd 2016
129
      The difference is too stark for me to buy that.
Mar 03rd 2016
130
           Funny that you're talking about stark differences.
Mar 03rd 2016
137
                I have no way of knowing the difference between 2 unknown* quantities.
Mar 03rd 2016
138
                     So you feel "Hillary or Bernie" is the same as "Hillary or Trump."
Mar 04th 2016
154
that is bernies 'political revolution'. he is just the lead domino
Mar 02nd 2016
116
I wish us all the best of luck with it.
Mar 02nd 2016
118
      unfortunately there is not only a wash dc-sized hairclog
Mar 03rd 2016
133
I know some feel there has been too much Clinton-bashing...
Mar 03rd 2016
139
THIS is another disgusting example of the HUMAN COST of USA INC.
Mar 04th 2016
143
      and Americans act shocked when these people hate us
Mar 04th 2016
144
           as a teacher i'm senstive to the reality that if people aren't exposed
Mar 04th 2016
147
if bernie dont win im staying home or voting trump has to be the most
Mar 04th 2016
145
it is... but how many are actually saying this?
Mar 04th 2016
146
      If a person is a crazy enough Bernie Bro or Trump Pumper
Mar 04th 2016
149
      RE: it is... but how many are actually saying this?
Mar 04th 2016
151
      im prolly. little more in tune with this shit than you bruh
Mar 04th 2016
155
           Uhhhh, thats because turn out has been low. Wtf
Mar 04th 2016
156
the battle is not the presidency
Mar 04th 2016
148
Why are there suddenly millions of socialists in America?
Mar 04th 2016
150
RE: Why are there suddenly millions of socialists in America?
Mar 04th 2016
152
that's kind of Bernie's point though
Mar 04th 2016
153

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