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"gates: Black america and the class divide"
Fri Feb-12-16 11:39 AM by akon

  

          

kind of a spinoff post, i think

the article is a bit all over the place
although it rehashes the talented tenth debate - which i think is a misunderstood dubois-ism
or at least there was a lot of backlash against that concept.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/education/edlife/black-america-and-the-class-divide.html?_r=1

but interesting nonetheless, at least this:

"In other words, there are really two nations within Black America. The problem of income inequality, Dr. Wilson concludes, is not between Black America and White America but between black haves and have-nots, something we don’t often discuss in public in an era dominated by a narrative of fear and failure and the claim that racism impacts 42 million people in all the same ways."

"The class divide is, in my opinion, one of the most important and overlooked factors in the rise of Black Lives Matter, led by a new generation of college graduates and students. I hear about it from my students at Harvard, about the pressure they feel to rise, yes, but also the necessity to then look back to lift others."

"Change, even at the symbolic level, is difficult, of course, and it remains to be seen what this current wave of protests will accomplish. Will the fight against police brutality, symbols of the Confederacy and society’s plethora of micro-aggressions become the basis of a broader movement for the improvement of underfunded public school education, for the right to a job with decent wages, and for the end of residential segregation that relegates the poor to neighborhoods with murder rates as alarming as those on the South Side of Chicago?"

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gates: Black america and the class divide [View all] , akon, Fri Feb-12-16 11:31 AM
 
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you're not niggas!!!
Feb 12th 2016
1
a lot of the 'haves' are still in the dark
Feb 12th 2016
2
I'd say culture/sub-culture more than class imo....
Feb 12th 2016
3
Race and class are so intertwined that the two are virtually synonymous
Feb 12th 2016
4
I don't think that's true at all.
Feb 12th 2016
6
That's all an illusion though. Not saying you aren't right
Feb 12th 2016
7
Yeah, you get reminded real quick some time.
Feb 12th 2016
10
Yes, but coffee is still coffee regardless of how much cream is added
Feb 12th 2016
11
RE: That's all an illusion though. Not saying you aren't right
Feb 12th 2016
12
      I think we're saying the same thing. It's the illusion of inclusion
Feb 12th 2016
14
your boy is lucky...it ALL depends on what they lookin 4 that day
Feb 12th 2016
13
      The statistics disagree.
Feb 13th 2016
22
           Wesley Snipes, OJ Simpson, Mike Tyson, and Michael Vick disagree
Feb 14th 2016
31
           I don't disagree.
Feb 15th 2016
42
                Only because America has more Blacks than all the other rich nations
Feb 15th 2016
55
                I get what you're saying but there's the same social inequalities
Feb 15th 2016
58
           I was speaking on BCPD specifically...their bs aint gonna come
Feb 16th 2016
61
no.
Feb 14th 2016
36
      There is a way people use the word black that encapsulates
Feb 15th 2016
57
Hrm, what's going to happen to the haves and have nots
Feb 12th 2016
5
I think we'll see situations similar to parts of Brazil
Feb 12th 2016
8
Or South Africa.
Feb 13th 2016
21
no they don't.
Feb 12th 2016
9
Reverse white flight is a US wide phenom.
Feb 12th 2016
16
      LOL @ Black ppl doing anything in 'droves' in LA or Portland.
Feb 13th 2016
24
dont know enough to say if this is true
Feb 14th 2016
33
Thats what I strongly feel will happen
Feb 15th 2016
54
odd article because homie got a trip downtown for entering his house
Feb 12th 2016
15
this shit is really an attempt to remain relevant as discourse shifts
Feb 12th 2016
17
^^^ Yep.
Feb 13th 2016
20
^^^^
Feb 15th 2016
48
must've been one helluva "Beer Summit"
Feb 13th 2016
26
mm-hmm... shit is wild, IMO
Feb 15th 2016
53
fuck Skip Gates
Feb 12th 2016
18
Lol
Feb 12th 2016
19
*stands in this line*
Feb 13th 2016
23
Lemme just say...
Feb 13th 2016
27
      do tell.
Feb 14th 2016
37
           I've already said too much.
Feb 14th 2016
41
                ^^^^^^
Feb 15th 2016
49
                no ma'am no ma'am!
Feb 16th 2016
59
BASE-ICALLY. Doing his master's bidding.
Feb 14th 2016
39
i tend to agree
Feb 15th 2016
43
what is he talking about?
Feb 13th 2016
25
Black haves have an obligation to take care of the Black have-nots.
Feb 14th 2016
28
How true is that though re: haves neglecting have nots?
Feb 14th 2016
30
here's what i think
Feb 14th 2016
34
      i didn't get any of that from the article.
Feb 15th 2016
44
           i think it starts from the dubois talented tenth mention
Feb 15th 2016
45
                cool.
Feb 15th 2016
46
This would certainly give credence to the Sanders position:
Feb 14th 2016
29
Yeah, but America being Anti black from the start is bigger
Feb 14th 2016
32
without a doubt:
Feb 14th 2016
38
i disagree
Feb 14th 2016
35
      Kim Crenshaw nailed it decades ago with "intersectionality"
Feb 14th 2016
40
           i think in an increasingly globalized world
Feb 15th 2016
47
i know its wrong but i cant a black man seriously when they marry white
Feb 15th 2016
50
http://www.rtba.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Spock-Illogical.jpg
Feb 15th 2016
51
      why am i not surprised...
Feb 15th 2016
52
           Well -- we have been interacting for over a year now.
Feb 15th 2016
56
                that dinner table discussion with Becky about the black struggle
Feb 16th 2016
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