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Selassie I God
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"The Bible tells me so; Spare the fist, spoil the child"


  

          

http://news.yahoo.com/cops-discuss-mans-fatal-beating-inside-york-church-110209962.html

Police: Brothers were beaten in church to make them confess

NEW HARTFORD, N.Y. (AP) — Two teenage brothers were brutally beaten in church — one fatally — in an effort by their parents, sister and other members to get them to confess their sins, police said Wednesday in a case involving what neighbors described as an insular congregation that didn't let its children out to play.

Police said spiritual "counseling" at the Word of Life church turned into an hours-long attack Sunday night in which Lucas Leonard, 19, and his 17-year-old brother, Christopher, were pummeled with fists, authorities said. They suffered injuries to the abdomen, genitals, back and thighs.

Eventually, Lucas stopped breathing and relatives took him early Monday to a hospital, where he died, police said. Authorities went to the church and found his younger brother, who was hospitalized in serious condition.

"Both brothers were subjected to physical punishment over the course of several hours, in hopes that each would confess to prior sins and ask for forgiveness," Police Chief Michael Inserra said.

He said investigators have not determined what the supposed sins were.

The brothers' parents, Bruce and Deborah Leonard, were charged with manslaughter in Lucas' death. Four other adults were charged with assault in the younger brother's beating, including Sarah Ferguson, 33, the victims' sister.


The beatings took place at a red-brick former elementary school that serves as both a church and a communal home for several members of the congregation, including one of the suspects. It has long stirred curiosity and suspicion in New Hartford, a once-thriving mill town of 22,000 people about 50 miles from Syracuse.

Nearby, in the village where the Leonard brothers lived with their parents, neighbors recalled a highly religious family that kept mostly to itself.

All the suspects pleaded not guilty. Lawyers for the parents and the sister had no comment.

Seven children, four of them Ferguson's, were turned over to child welfare authorities.

Police said more arrests are expected as the investigation continues.


"We're not alleging that they intended to kill their son," Inserra said of the parents, but "they were attempting to seriously hurt their son, and he died as a result."

After Leonard was brought to the hospital, police suspected Christopher had been hurt, too, but his relatives wouldn't tell officers where he was, the chief said. After searching for hours, police found him on the church's second floor.

The church has existed for as many as 30 years in New Hartford.

"I'm really afraid. In my heart I don't think this is the first incident," said Eva Monaghan, who lives around the corner. "Over all the years, I can't imagine this is the first thing. Maybe nothing as bad. Around town, it's considered a cult."

The police chief, however, said he had no indication Word of Life was anything but a church and a home.


Nancy Kneller, who used to work at a Catholic church next door, said local residents had long been suspicious of the place.

"Why are they so secretive? Why are there no kids out playing?" she said. Still, she added, "I think they're good people that made a bad decision."

The Leonards live in nearby Clayville, a village of 350 people, two-story, wood-frame duplex. The sister lived in the attic with her own children, a neighbor said.

Lucas and Christopher read the Bible two hours a day at their parents' insistence and "weren't really allowed to go out of their house" for sleepovers, said another neighbor, Nicole Howard. The brothers "weren't allowed to do normal things, but they tried to be as normal as they could be."

Nicole Howard's brother, Michael Howard, said the Leonard home was cluttered, but the conditions seemed unremarkable

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Folks in the comments jumped on the quote that resonated with me too
Oct 14th 2015
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well, yeah.
Oct 14th 2015
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Who's bible?
Oct 15th 2015
3
Even Satanists would go this far; is from wacked out misinterpreting xti...
Oct 15th 2015
5
"Spare the rod, spoil the child" isn't even in the bible, actually
Oct 15th 2015
4
it paraphrases Proverbs 13:24, no?
Oct 15th 2015
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      assuming rod connotates beating the child is part of the problem
Oct 15th 2015
10
      Nah...
Oct 15th 2015
12
the term "church" is used loosely here, that sounds like a cult
Oct 15th 2015
6
You know it's all wrapped into one for some folk
Oct 15th 2015
9
Save a horse, Ride a cowboy
Oct 15th 2015
7
Save a tree eat a beaver
Oct 15th 2015
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