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"Jon Stewart told Wyatt Cenic to F#CK OFF!!! (swipe)"


          

http://www.vulture.com/2015/07/jon-stewart-told-wyatt-cenac-to-fck-off.html

While there are going to be a lot of fond farewells to Jon Stewart, who will do his final episode of The Daily Show August 6, Wyatt Cenac has a much more complicated memory of the late-night host. Cenac, who was a writer and correspondent on The Daily Show for over four years, spoke with Marc Maron on his "WTF" podcast about what it was like working with Stewart. Maron asked, "And you got along with Jon?" "Naw," replied Cenac. While Cenac initially wanted to see Stewart as a father figure, he didn't get that. What he remembers instead is a moment when Stewart screamed at him in front of the entire staff. "There had, in my experience, never been an explosion like that," he said.

This happened back in the summer of 2011, when Stewart was roundly pillorying the 2012 presidential hopefuls, including one Herman Cain. He made fun of Cain by doing a "voice." At the time Cenac was on a field assignment, and watched the bit from home. "I don’t think this is from a malicious place, but I think this is from a naïve, ignorant place," he remembered thinking. "Oh no, you just did this and you didn’t think about it. It was just the voice that came into your head. And so it bugged me." Stewart had been getting flak from Fox News for the voice, and he wanted to do something to respond — an Avenue Q–style "Everything I do is racist" segment. (They did change the frame to one making fun of Stewart.)

Cenac, who was the only black writer there at the time, voiced his concerns during the writer's meeting. "I've got to be honest, and I just spoke from my place," said Cenac. "I wasn’t here when it all happened. I was in a hotel. And I cringed a little bit. It bothered me." He wanted them to drop the bit and said that it reminded him of Kingfish, a character Tim Moore played on Amos 'n' Andy. He remembers:

got incredibly defensive. I remember he was like, What are you trying to say? There’s a tone in your voice. I was like, "There’s no tone. It bothered me. It sounded like Kingfish." And then he got upset. And he stood up and he was just like, "Fuck off. I’m done with you." And he just started screaming that to me. And he screamed it a few times. "Fuck off! I’m done with you." And he stormed out. And I didn’t know if I had been fired.

The fight carried on at Stewart's office and was only stopped when one of the office dogs began pawing at them. (Aww.) Eventually, the show had to go on, and Cenac remembers going outside to a baseball field and having a breakdown. "I was shaking, and I just sat there by myself on the bleachers and fucking cried. And it’s a sad thing. That’s how I feel. That’s how I feel in this job. I feel alone," he said.

The entire conversation is well worth listening to. Cenac is characteristically thoughtful about how racial dynamics manifest themselves in creative spaces like The Daily Show, and how it places people of color in a bind where they have to "represent":

Something like this, I represent my community, I represent my people, and I try to represent them the best that I can. I gotta be honest if something seems questionable, because if not, then I don’t want to be in a position where I am being untrue not just to myself but to my culture, because that’s exploitative. I’m just allowing something to continue if I’m just going to go along with it. And sadly, I think that’s the burden a lot of people have to have when you are “the one.” You represent something bigger than yourself whether you want to or not.

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I feel him... nothing worse than being the only Black man in the room trying to tell someone a skit felt racist.

oooh they so sensitive.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Jon Stewart told Wyatt Cenic to F#CK OFF!!! (swipe) [View all] , legsdiamond, Fri Jul-24-15 07:22 AM
 
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This really bummed me out...
Jul 24th 2015
1
It's THEIR "N-word"
Jul 24th 2015
2
it really is (their n-word)....but what bothers me most about
Jul 24th 2015
4
yeah, I felt like he was trying to gain too much sympathy
Jul 24th 2015
5
RE: yeah, I felt like he was trying to gain too much sympathy
Jul 24th 2015
7
He had a fucked family life. Father was a murdered NYC cabbie
Jul 24th 2015
13
damn
Jul 24th 2015
16
damn...yall going too far with this
Jul 24th 2015
21
      in all honesty i think father figure is going too far with it
Jul 24th 2015
27
           it's a frequently used term...you don't have to read too mucn into it
Jul 24th 2015
38
                take your own advice...
Jul 24th 2015
42
RE: it really is (their n-word)....but what bothers me most about
Jul 24th 2015
8
Yeah I don't doubt what he said happened, but I'd like to hear both side...
Jul 24th 2015
9
Yeah
Jul 24th 2015
12
so you don't believe the black guy?
Jul 24th 2015
17
      I believe everything he said happened, but there could be another side.
Jul 24th 2015
26
where im at with it. nm
Jul 24th 2015
14
RE: It's THEIR "N-word"
Jul 24th 2015
19
that "even someone as seemingly progressive"
Jul 24th 2015
3
      they are the worse ones because it's impossible
Jul 24th 2015
6
      Yup.
Jul 24th 2015
10
      YUP
Jul 24th 2015
11
      True
Jul 24th 2015
15
      good point
Jul 24th 2015
22
      You think that of Jon Stewart?
Jul 24th 2015
67
It's a COMEDY SHOW on a network called COMEDY CENTRAL!
Jul 24th 2015
18
did you think that reply out? you couldnt have
Jul 25th 2015
74
I think the WC is being sensitive and is looking for -
Jul 25th 2015
76
^^^THIS^^^^
Jul 25th 2015
78
He cried though :/
Jul 24th 2015
20
It's not surprising. Most people have some sort of negative
Jul 24th 2015
23
Exactly-- and he's Jewish? And he's a Beastie Boys fan?
Jul 24th 2015
24
      he's not a practicing jew
Jul 24th 2015
34
Do white people get to call out Uncle Toms?
Jul 24th 2015
25
yeah, that link is in the article
Jul 24th 2015
28
nah, i have a problem with white people calling Black people UT's
Jul 24th 2015
29
I've been said that Jon Stewart ain't real like y'all want to believe he...
Jul 24th 2015
30
^
Jul 24th 2015
32
is Tim wise a comedian?
Jul 24th 2015
33
have you ever seen tim wise speak?
Jul 24th 2015
35
Not sometimes, all the time.
Jul 24th 2015
46
"He's no Tim Wise" is a weird argument to make
Jul 25th 2015
84
yall should actually listen to him talk about it (link)
Jul 24th 2015
31
how does that make cynac sensitive?
Jul 24th 2015
36
      I can only speak from my perspective
Jul 24th 2015
37
      he comes across as sensitive bc of the things he said in the interview.
Jul 24th 2015
40
           i listened to it
Jul 24th 2015
44
           you can be sensitive and strong
Jul 24th 2015
58
           but it's comedy
Jul 24th 2015
45
           sensitive doesn't mean 'easily hurt'
Jul 24th 2015
56
           I'd say Stewart is more 'insensitive' than Wyatt's 'sensitive' b/c
Jul 24th 2015
51
                he's defly insensitive. but there's context in the whole interview.
Jul 24th 2015
60
Do you think Stewart's impression of Cain was racist?
Jul 24th 2015
39
i couldn't stop laughin' enough to tell....
Jul 24th 2015
41
sounded kinda like foghorn leghorn
Jul 24th 2015
43
I didn't
Jul 24th 2015
50
NOO YAWK CITY *Flex bombs*
Jul 24th 2015
47
I told my boss to do that once...
Jul 24th 2015
48
Listen to the Podcast. Stewart ain't to blame on this one
Jul 24th 2015
49
Maron's podcast was huge before the Obama interview.
Jul 24th 2015
52
Maron is supposed to shoot for numbers
Jul 24th 2015
53
how is he not?
Jul 24th 2015
54
      dude, he called his boss Kingfish...Kingfish.
Jul 24th 2015
55
      I think both were wrong.
Jul 24th 2015
57
      the first half of the interview, Cenac stuck me as an asshole
Jul 24th 2015
59
           true...but is that crying alone on the bleachers bad
Jul 24th 2015
62
                You're on the hottest show on cable
Jul 24th 2015
65
                     And it's inpacted his life for damn near 3 or 4 yrs. That shit is crazy.
Jul 24th 2015
73
      IMHO, his reaction was due to his past
Jul 24th 2015
61
      Man bosses blow up. Wyatt crying with hurt feeling & still being upset.....
Jul 24th 2015
72
Just adding that The Champs podcast with Cynac is really good
Jul 24th 2015
63
I hate The Champs. like more than I hate most things online
Jul 25th 2015
75
I do too. But the Cynac ep was really good. Because of Cynac.
Jul 25th 2015
77
i listened to this one a bunch
Jul 25th 2015
82
It feels like maybe this wasn't the first time
Jul 24th 2015
64
1. The voice wasn't racist. Northeastern elitist maybe. 2. Cynac is soft
Jul 24th 2015
66
We don't know that the voice that aired was the voice Wyatt heard...
Jul 24th 2015
68
      His complaint came from something he saw on TV while in a hotel room nm
Jul 24th 2015
69
           Ah, the article I read made it sound like it went down in the writers ro...
Jul 24th 2015
70
this sounds salacious, but i listened to the WHOLE Maron ep.
Jul 24th 2015
this sounds salacious, but i listened to the WHOLE Maron ep.
Jul 24th 2015
71
Unrelated: But my old roommate used to date/fuck Cenac...
Jul 25th 2015
79
that nigga is perpetually Sandra when Elvin breaks up in my book
Jul 25th 2015
80
      I finally got this reference
Jul 27th 2015
90
#whitefragility
Jul 25th 2015
81
This dude ran outside to go cry in the bleachers.
Jul 25th 2015
83
Im about as stoic as they comes
Jul 26th 2015
85
Freedom of expression... under certain patriarchal conditions/directions
Jul 26th 2015
86
Who here is championing work place emotional/mental abuse?
Jul 27th 2015
88
      You
Jul 27th 2015
91
           You should chill out.
Jul 27th 2015
92
                then run up under someone else
Jul 27th 2015
95
well Cenac comes off in my interactions
Jul 27th 2015
87
Agreed
Jul 27th 2015
89
Serious question: Could Wyatt have some form of PTSD?
Jul 27th 2015
93
Anyone watch the Paley Center TDS writers special
Jul 27th 2015
94

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