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John Forte
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"Is it possible for an able-bodied kid to get accepted into an elite univ..."


          

without playing a sport or being in the arts, post-2000? Without the the nepotism/support group hook-up?

Trying to get my wife's uncle and aunt to make their kid play a sport.

  

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Is it possible for an able-bodied kid to get accepted into an elite univ... [View all] , John Forte, Mon Jul-13-15 12:39 PM
 
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give me examples of elite.
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Ivy, ivy tier, public ivy
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      like UVA for example?
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           UVA definitely fits that bill BUT
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                fa sho
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                i didnt get into UVA out of state in 2000
Jul 14th 2015
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lol. whatever happened to just studyin his ass off?
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I think JF's in-laws are Asian, and there are informal ceilings
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Asian kid who doesn't write code, play piano or violin
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      RE: Asian kid who doesn't write code, play piano or violin
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           that ain't him either
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are u serious?
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uh yeah.
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yes.
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Of course
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yes lol
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It's kinds hard to be from either of those neighborhoods
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      so...isnt that that point of elite university politics
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           the schools and the students want interesting ppl on campus.
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                ^^^^^^^^^^
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yeah...good to have extra curriculars though
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before you answer, ask yourself these two questions:
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ive tutored since i was 18
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i can say the same for kids i've tutored
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'what answer does John Forte want?'
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An informed answer, like tomjohn29's
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      oh okay.
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huh?
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nah, that's just me being old as fuck
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i'm in upper level admin at a college
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      b/c he's not about to go advise the boy
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my cousin was accepted to Dartmouth
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Mexican AND a sport
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      I doubt that one year of swim helped at all
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Uh, yes, absolutely
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I was specifically referring to right today
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      post-2000=2015? huh? and of course if you just go to school/come home
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      he's trying to win an argument w/his wife.
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           and then there's that
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                lmao
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      as has always beem the case...am i missing something?
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           pretty much.
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I was wrong: hyper-focused trumps "well-rounded" these days
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City college isn't the worst thing ever
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These days lol its always been that way
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      He specifically wants to go to Columbia
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           ummm... he can totally spin this
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           Maybe they'll like that aspect of his (lack of) childhood
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           yeppers
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           great scores and a great essay
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                Poor nerdy Asian kid with no extra curriculars? His essay will not be g...
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                     well that's mighty racist, isn't it?
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                          I think we have enough info to determine he prolly won't have a great es...
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And this is a golden example of intellectual honesty
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he's trying to win an argument w/his wife.
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      interesting choice of preposition
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           <-- not one of those nerds, clearly.
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                I think the kid should play sports too, for the record
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                     he's better off hanging w/theater chicks.
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                     and he'd be one of the few straight guys there
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                          he wouldn't though.
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                               i'm finna mute yo contrarian ass
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                               LOL
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                               LOL
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                               yeah our theater program had mostly straight guys
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                                    my HS choirs had more gays than the theater group.
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                                         Almost every gay dude in my class was in choir
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                     but if he sucks at sports and doesn't like it, why should he have to do ...
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Can he afford to pay his way? That helps at elite privates
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They're poor. Poor people don't pay at elite schools anymore
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      Too bad, extra currics don't outshine the ability to pay
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           That's actually not true at all
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                this is correct. ivies will happily give (not loan) tuition to poor ent...
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                Increasingly, lower income students are not receiving the aid they need
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                     oh shit.
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                     For example, credit card debt
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                          oh yeah. that makes sense.
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                               the biggest flaw in the FAFSA is that it doesn't factor cost of living
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                                    it can be done but requires extra legwork.
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                     !
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                     A financial aid package is a mixture of scholarships, awards, and loans
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                     i was told i was too poor to get a pell grant...
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                     That. Is. Not. A. Thing.
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                          i can send you the emails and my correspondence
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                     The formula the FAFSA uses to calculate the EFC is flawed, but
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                     Why? Are you an expert in higher ed finance or did you received one?
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                          Yes, I am in fact an expert in higher ed finance
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                               If that was true, you wouldn't have made this post in the first place
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                                    I am not an expert in higher ed admissions
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                     That's moving the goalpost many feet from what you originally said
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                Well, I know for a fact that what I say is true
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                i dunno personally but i'd expect that
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                     Exactly, and you aren't necessarily signing on to a free ride
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                          well just on the escalating costs on all fronts one could conclude that
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                               Elite schools are not looking less at students' ability to afford tuitio...
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                                    well enlighten me, relative to what? their previous standard? non elites...
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                                    The list of schools that make need-blind admissions decisions is public
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                nah i know a rich white kid who swam in the olympic trials
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                     lol
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The Buddy_Gilapagos still works.
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What's his GPA and test scores?
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He's not rich/legacy but it just may work out anyway...good luck to him.
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lol yeah
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Definitely.
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Oh, he's Asian? Unfortunately he'll need much more than excellent grades...
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I think an essay that touches on being poor and working in the
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      it won't...
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           I believe you
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Tell him to do one year at a local school. Transfer once the semester
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this also works
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My sister worked two years in admissions at Williams College*
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thanks for this
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I think those last two you mentioned are the back door for a lot of folk...
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nevermind
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Read this confessions of a Harvard Admissions Officer
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