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82. "RE: Would You Ever Want to Go on a Tour of a Plantation???"
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...??? right about now, I don't think so...

I will try to explain my point on this subject to the best of my ability. I am going to try and make this as short as possible but thorough enough for those to care to believe or/and understand.

All through my childhood, my mother used to tell us a lot of stories passed down from her mother and grandmother about slavery and events that took place during slavery. During my childhood, I thought some of the things that my mother would tell us about the past was, totally crazy but I later found a lot of things that she told us were very true. As a child my mother was the first to tell all of her children about Mermaids. At first, it seemed like a fairy tale but her stories were later told by my grandmother and other family members and yes, I now do believe that Mermaids really did exist. Mermaids did not seem to be a big thing to the people of the past. It was just a thing with them that if they had to travel the waters in their homemade canoes, they would know to take a BIG stick or other large object to hit a Mermaid if they tried to pull someone from their canoe.

My mother also told us that ghosts helped free the slaves in the south. When she first told me this, I just knew she had surely "Flew The Coop"!!! My mother, grandmother and other family members frequently mentioned the ghost face in the Aliceville AL, which is the state that they grew up in. Yes, I believed this and I did have the opportunity to see this ghost face in the window back in the '70's and again last October. I did post about this last year. The first time that I saw this image in the courthouse window, it was amazing to me and ever since I saw the face there, I always wondered what would happen if they ever demolished the courthouse building???

We went back to see it again, last October and I was very happy to be able to show this ghost face in the window to my 16 year old niece and her non-believing in God and spirits brother this image. This time when went to see it, we were able to stand right there, take photos and walk on the grounds of the courthouse building. There was a time that blacks could not go on the grounds of this building and were not allowed to stop or stare at the image. When we saw the image last October, it took a whole new spin on me!!! On our way back from AL to Chicago while waiting on our plane to arrive my niece found a lot of information about the Face in the courthouse window, I still didn't think a lot more about it until I got back home and she sent me this link>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkjr1Ml0gj8 ???WTF!!! This story is no where near the story told to me by my mother and grand parents. I even met a White lady from that town when I was in the hospital back in the late 1980's that told me the same version of the story that my relatives told me, which was the face in the window, which I found out last year was named Henry wells. This lady also said that he was hung for looking at a White woman and that he denied the criminal charges and promised the judge in this case that if they hung him that they would surely see him again. The judge considered Henry Wells words as being totally disrespect to him and ordered them to hang Henry right in from of him so that he could watch. Short after Henry Wells died from hanging, his face appeared in the courthouse window where he was executed. They said the judge had them change the window several times but his face would re-appear the next day.

After my niece sent the link about this, I started to do some internet research about the Henry Wells story. I found out that the old lady in the U-tube video in the above paragraph was an honorary citizen of Aliceville AL and also worked at the Pickens County Courthouse. I was TOTALLY SHOCKED to find out this this lady, her daughter and her son had been in a double murder/suicide about 9 months before we went to the courthouse to see the image of Henry Wells!!! >>>http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20131206/NEWS/131209823

This Henry Wells ghost story has been very heavy on my mind since our return from Alabama. There is so many questions and no real answers about this particular ghost story...The obvious lies about this story, the quiet, hush-hush part of this priceless piece of African American history.

Yes, Alabama is a real place for ghost in my opinion. I even learned about, "The Thirteen Ghost Of Alabama" A book written by a lady by the name of, Kathryn Tucker Windham>>> http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2014/07/take_a_photo_tour_of_real_site.html I have not read the book but I did look at some of her links on U-Tube.

For those that don't believe that there is really such of a thing as ghost, you need to go and see it for yourself. It is as real as the sun and the moon that shines above us all, there is no denying that the image of Henry Wells is real>>> https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AtM9ltN8dQLafCWcPxrqrmebvZx4?p=Henry+Wells+Ghost+Images&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-700&fp=1

If you wonder how this relates to the subject of taking a tour of a plantation??? I did finally realize that there was some truth in what my mother told me about ghost helped free the slaves. From what I have heard, ghosts started popping up in the big fabulous plantations just like Henry Wells and the people that lived on these plantations had to leave out of fear. I doubt very seriously if the tour guides on these plantation tours are going to tell any of these type of stories which do exist.

Even Spike Lee touched on stories of this type in his movie, "Tales From The Hood">>> https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqID0dKFVQhgALv00nIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByYXI3cnIwBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDNA--?p=Tales+From+the+Hood+Plantation+Scenes&vid=da38842c1f76dd8a58d9beee84a4a2b5&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DWN.CuQazw1yhQYCDM7Dizf8tQ%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D166%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DuW6S19_dUwU&tit=Corbin+Bernsen+Vs+Niggra+doll&c=3&h=166&w=300&l=46&sigr=11bfk3o93&sigt=10tr2sl4e&sigi=12ktqk2d1&age=1291125191&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&hsimp=yhs-att_001&hspart=att&tt=b I do believe stories of ghosts were very common during our plantation days.

It seems to me that THEY want to pretend that God did not play a part in the slavery game and that we came as far as we have thanks to THEM & us. I just want to know why, why, why so many secrets about God & spirits when the subject of slavery come into play???

I really don't think I want to go and tour a plantation, just like other people that posted here, I think it would hurt me too much and knowing the knowledge that I picked up last year in Alabama and linking the other things that I learn about African American slavery, I think it would just be too much for me to bear. I haven't gotten over the image of Henry Wells that we saw in Alabama last year. Since that visit, I have no desire to ever go back that way again. I cannot watch Ghost stories like I used to before I went there. I always have an open ear for any knowledge that I learn about our slaver days, but to tour these places would be too much for me to deal with right now.

The story of slavery is deeper and wider than any ocean or sea and I feel that I have seen enough. I will watch stuff about it on tv, word of mouth or the internet. After writing this mini-manuscript, nope, I don't think I want to take a tour of any plantations down south or go to any places down there with any prevalent slavery stories :-) :-) :-) !!!



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Would You Ever Want to Go on a Tour of a Plantation??? [View all] , MrThomas43423, Fri Jul-10-15 02:22 PM
 
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I lived there 13 years, never went once.
Jul 10th 2015
1
yep. its crazy. and apparently they have re-enactments and shit
Jul 10th 2015
2
Wonder where the $ goes
Jul 10th 2015
3
i'd say salaries and upkeep just to be nice
Jul 10th 2015
11
Did you see this Vox piece from a former plantation tour guide?
Jul 10th 2015
4
You're really bumming us out talking abt this slavery stuff...
Jul 10th 2015
7
right. "did they appreciate what they got?"
Jul 10th 2015
13
that was a good read.
Jul 10th 2015
9
      It's crazy to think I have a better concept of slavery than those Americ...
Jul 10th 2015
49
           my sister went on a plantation tour once with a former BF from europe
Jul 10th 2015
59
                RE: my sister went on a plantation tour once with a former BF from europ...
Jul 10th 2015
62
nope! i never understood us goin to Williamsburg like its...
Jul 10th 2015
5
we went there for our class trip in 12th grade
Jul 10th 2015
15
colonial Williamsburg was the 1st thing i thought of.
Jul 10th 2015
31
      we went in 9th grade. we tried to holla at girls from other schools
Jul 10th 2015
50
reminds me of this video
Jul 10th 2015
6
i remember that video.
Jul 10th 2015
17
And can I add the Slave Ship Museum in LA to the list?
Jul 10th 2015
8
in the shape of a fucking boat? really.
Jul 10th 2015
18
Yes. Helps me with visualizing history
Jul 10th 2015
10
i respect your opinion
Jul 10th 2015
27
      What you're saying here is part of what I was trying to say:
Jul 10th 2015
35
In my 8th grade Louisiana HIstroy class, we went on one...
Jul 10th 2015
12
that's how they get kids too
Jul 10th 2015
24
I visited several when I was in undergrad
Jul 10th 2015
14
i'm on the more rebellious side of the coin
Jul 10th 2015
23
      we can not ever forget.
Jul 10th 2015
28
      but the idea that our history started with plantations is wrong
Jul 10th 2015
30
      sure. it started in the slave castles.
Jul 10th 2015
32
      it absolutely did not start in the slave castles.
Jul 10th 2015
36
           no it started when they were marched TO the slave castles.
Jul 10th 2015
41
           Agreed...it started on the continent as free Africans
Jul 10th 2015
58
                Yup
Jul 10th 2015
71
      That doesn't mean you have to burn all plantations down though
Jul 10th 2015
33
      Agreed...it reminds of Rod Serling's speech on concentration camps...
Jul 12th 2015
84
      Yeah I feel you...I'd like to see the land turned over to local
Jul 10th 2015
60
I mean, once you tour the slave castles, Plantations are the next
Jul 10th 2015
16
i haven't had an opportunity to visit the slave castles, but i don't thi...
Jul 10th 2015
34
      i was silent during the tours
Jul 10th 2015
39
           i get it....i do.
Jul 10th 2015
42
                **YOU** ARE THE VICTORY.
Jul 10th 2015
44
                     i feel like we're so far off from their victory tho
Jul 10th 2015
47
                     ok.
Jul 10th 2015
48
                     nigga you live in America. People are still dying trying to get here in ...
Jul 10th 2015
51
                     good post
Jul 10th 2015
65
                     RE: **YOU** ARE THE VICTORY.
Jul 13th 2015
101
Sure. I took a tour of a concentration camp so ... why not. I'll admit, ...
Jul 10th 2015
19
i went to the holocaust museum and i'll never do that again
Jul 10th 2015
22
      ^
Jul 10th 2015
29
      that's funny because I was just telling someone today that when I went t...
Jul 10th 2015
38
i've using the term labor camps when talking about them lately
Jul 10th 2015
20
how do you feel about them tho.
Jul 10th 2015
40
I grew up minutes from at least 5 plantations. How many times have I bee...
Jul 10th 2015
21
how much do you think your parents had to do with that?
Jul 10th 2015
45
i've toured 2 slave castles in Ghana.
Jul 10th 2015
25
Yes. I live near Stagville...
Jul 10th 2015
26
do you think there's any glory in plantations for white people
Jul 10th 2015
43
Just looked into this
Jul 10th 2015
37
I honestly don't think I would have a problem with it.
Jul 10th 2015
46
fuuuuuuuuuck no.
Jul 10th 2015
52
when i was in Savannah I went to Wormsloe. i went for the trees
Jul 10th 2015
53
hell yes
Jul 10th 2015
54
I've been before. It was important for me to go
Jul 10th 2015
55
yup.
Jul 10th 2015
56
Yes.
Jul 10th 2015
57
only if you can go to a water park after...
Jul 10th 2015
61
ive done extensive research on my direct ancestors for 10 yrs now
Jul 10th 2015
63
I can't even understand how Alcatraz is an attraction
Jul 10th 2015
64
Some of the best views of the bay area are on Alcatraz
Jul 11th 2015
77
I think the same thing about Eastern State Penitentiary in Philly
Jul 11th 2015
79
I've been to about 5.
Jul 10th 2015
66
Yes. To see the land with my own eyes and to imagine the people
Jul 10th 2015
67
essentially, you are already on one.
Jul 10th 2015
68
This too
Jul 10th 2015
72
i won't argue with that at all.
Jul 12th 2015
86
NO WE ARE NOT. And it's disrespectful to your ancestors to say
Jul 13th 2015
89
      yes, I'm so fucking sick of stupid shit like that
Jul 13th 2015
92
      it's only stupid if you take it literally.
Jul 13th 2015
96
      i think we disrespect our ancestors in much more worse ways.
Jul 13th 2015
95
      Context is EXTREMELY important people
Jul 13th 2015
99
           RE: y'all must hate metaphors.
Jul 13th 2015
100
                Stick to your guns. Is it a metaphor or are you...
Jul 14th 2015
103
                     RE: Stick to your guns. Is it a metaphor or are you...
Jul 14th 2015
104
                     how is it that-
Jul 14th 2015
105
I've been and would go again.
Jul 10th 2015
69
I went to a plantation in Florida. It was hard but necessary.
Jul 10th 2015
70
There's a restored plantation house on top of a hill about a
Jul 11th 2015
73
Only if black folks of that heritage were allowed free admission
Jul 11th 2015
74
good idea
Jul 11th 2015
81
im with this notion
Jul 13th 2015
91
no but i've trespassed onto one
Jul 11th 2015
75
Shit. The school I went to from 3rd - 12th grade used to be a plantation...
Jul 11th 2015
76
mercy. and the school openly admitted that it was a graveyeard?
Jul 11th 2015
80
      Well, it was a rumor, but given that it was a plantation - likely true.
Jul 13th 2015
94
went to one in while in Charleston recently
Jul 11th 2015
78
XXXcellent Post!!!....n/m
Jul 11th 2015
83
what i learned from leading tours about slavery at a plantation (swipe)
Jul 12th 2015
85
Texas wants to downplay slavery, remove Jim crow& kkk from text books -
Jul 12th 2015
87
This is where I am. I ain't trying to help them erase history.
Jul 13th 2015
90
only if its to buy
Jul 13th 2015
88
Would you buy to...
Jul 13th 2015
93
i went on one in jamaica
Jul 13th 2015
97
Hell yea if you trace your ancestry there you can sue
Jul 13th 2015
98
Been there done that. Whoever says no is in denial.
Jul 13th 2015
102
Yep
Jul 14th 2015
106

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