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"How The South Skews American Politics *swipe*"
Mon Jul-06-15 08:50 AM by Mongo

  

          

Preamble: I don't actually agree with this article at all. But the fact that it makes it above the fold so soon after Charleston is kind of telling -- the editorial staff clearly feels their audience is receptive to a WE'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THE FUCKING SOUTH op-ed.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/how-the-south-skews-america-119725.html?ml=po#.VZp_3u1VhBc

Every year the Fourth of July is marked by ringing affirmations of American exceptionalism. We are a special nation, uniquely founded on high ideals like freedom and equality. In practice, however, much of what sets the United States apart from other countries today is actually Southern exceptionalism. The United States would be much less exceptional in general, and in particular more like other English-speaking democracies such as Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand were it not for the effects on U.S. politics and culture of the American South.

I don’t mean this in a good way. A lot of the traits that make the United States exceptional these days are undesirable, like higher violence and less social mobility. Many of these differences can be attributed largely to the South.

All English-speaking democracies share certain characteristics in common. Compared to continental European and East Asian democracies, the Anglophone nations tend to be more market-oriented and less statist, with somewhat lower levels of social spending and weaker bureaucracies. We might even speak of “Anglosphere exceptionalism.”

But even by the standards of the English-speaking world, the U.S. appears as an extreme outlier, in areas ranging from religiosity to violence to anti-government attitudes. As we learned after the slaughter last month in Charleston, S.C., some deluded Southerners still pine for secession from the Union. Yet no doubt there are also more than a few liberal Northerners who would be happy to see them go.

Minus the South, the rest of the U.S. probably would be more like Canada or Australia or Britain or New Zealand—more secular, more socially liberal, more moderate in the tone of its politics and somewhat more generous in social policy. And it would not be as centralized as France or as social democratic as Sweden.

As a fifth-generation Texan, and a descendant of Southerners back to the 1600s, I don’t want to encourage lurid stereotypes of a monolithic South. The states of the former Confederacy include ethnic minorities like Louisiana Cajuns and Texas Germans, along with African Americans. And the dominant conservatives in the South have always been challenged from within the ranks of the white community by populists, liberals and radicals.

But the South really is different from the rest of the country. Here are some examples of how the South skews American statistics.

Today there is more inter-generational social mobility in Europe than in the United States, contrary to the American myth that the United States is still the world’s No. 1 land of opportunity. The Economic Mobility Project of Pew Charitable Trusts has shown that children are far less likely to rise above the socio-economic levels of their parents in the U.S. than are those in Britain, Canada and Australia, as well as Germany, France and the Nordic nations. The American South, with the lowest rates of intergenerational social mobility in the U.S., clearly skews the national statistics, creating an embarrassing and depressing version of American exceptionalism.

Economic inequality? Apart from California and New York, where statistics reflect the wealth of Wall Street, Hollywood and Silicon Valley, the South is the region with the greatest income inequality. Southern exceptionalism has helped to ensure that the American Dream is more likely to be realized in the Old World than in the New.
The mythology of American exceptionalism holds that ever since 1776 the United States has led the rest of the world in expanding individual liberty and the growth of the middle class. This makes for inspiring Fourth of July rhetoric, but it has never been true. In reality, the United States has frequently lagged behind Britain and her other offspring in these areas. Britain peacefully abolished slavery within its empire in the 1830s; thanks to Southern opposition, the U.S. did so only as the result of the catastrophic Civil War. And thanks to mid-century Southern members of Congress, welfare-state policies from home ownership to Social Security were designed to reinforce segregation or exclude the disproportionately-Southern black and white poor. Not until the 1960s, with the help of federal military intervention in Southern states, was the right of African-Americans to vote secured. And today white Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult.

Religiosity is one example of American exceptionalism among English-speaking countries that is largely the result of Southern exceptionalism within the United States. “We don’t do God,” Tony Blair’s aide Alastair Campbell famously remarked, emphasizing that religion is kept out of the public sphere in modern-day Britain. In most modern English-speaking countries, voters find ostentatious piety on the part of political candidates troubling, not reassuring. But in the U.S., born-again Southern evangelical politicians like Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush who troll for votes with piety have given U.S. presidential politics a flavor more reminiscent of Tehran than of London or Ottawa or Canberra. According to Gallup, in 2014 the most religious Americans were all found in Southern states, with the exceptions of Mormon Utah and semi-Southern Oklahoma. Mississippi led the nation in zeal.

Southern violence also goes a long way toward explaining the exceptional violence of the United States in general compared to otherwise similar countries. The pre-modern “culture of honor” continues to exist to a greater degree in the South. White Southerners are more likely than white northerners to respond to insults with increased testosterone and aggression, according to social scientists. According to the FBI in 2012, the South as a region, containing only a quarter of the population, accounted for 40.9 percent of U.S. violent crime.

Compared to other Americans, Southerners disproportionately support sanctioned violence in all of its forms, from military intervention abroad to capital punishment to corporal punishment of children. According to Gallup, Southern households have a far higher rate of gun ownership (38 percent) than households in the East (21 percent), Midwest (29 percent) or West (27 percent).

The death penalty has been abolished in Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Isolated among the major English-speaking nations, the U.S. is among the world’s leaders when it comes to per capita executions, competing with the regimes in Saudi Arabia, China, Iran and North Korea. The U.S. owes this dubious honor to the South. Between the time the Supreme Court ended the ban on the death penalty and mid-June of this year, the South was responsible for 81 percent of the executions in the United States, with Texas and Oklahoma alone accounting for 45 percent of the whole.

The racial polarization of the American electorate is exacerbated by the white Southern electorate. In 2012, Barack Obama, the first African-American president, won only 39 percent of the white vote. But low numbers among white voters in the South dragged down his nationwide total. Obama did better than his national average with white voters in the Midwest and won outright with 51 percent in Iowa.

Voting is far more polarized along racial lines in the Southern states than elsewhere. According to a recent study by political scientists Avidit Acharya, Matthew Blackwell and Maya Sen, “the larger the number of slaves in his or her county of residence in 1860, the greater the probability that a white Southerners today will identify as a Republican, express opposition to race-coded policies such as affirmative action and express greater racial resentment towards African Americans.”

White Southern political culture has shown remarkable continuity, despite the half-century flight of Southern conservatives from the Democratic to the Republican Party. It is true, as some historians and pundits point out, that the Republican Party’s post-World War II resurgence in the South owed a lot to its appeal to suburbanites and business elites. But that is ancient history. More recently, the country-club Republican supporters of Barry Goldwater and John Connally have been swamped in Southern Republican parties by a wave of working-class white Southerners who are heirs to paranoid and sullen Dixiecrat conservatism, not sunny and optimistic Goldwater-Reagan conservatism. Indeed, on issues from gay marriage to immigration to public investment in infrastructure, the business community and the GOP’s white Southern base are increasingly at odds.

All of this leaves little doubt that, in the absence of Southern exceptionalism, the U.S. would be much more similar to other English-speaking democracies, which don’t subject their leaders to religious tests, don’t suffer from high levels of gun violence and don’t rival communist China and despotic Saudi Arabia in the number of executions per capita. Without the gravitational force exerted on the South, American conservatism itself would be radically different—more Bob Dole than Ted Cruz.

The northern progressives who joke about the U.S. jettisoning “Jesusland” and merging with Canada will not get their wish. But there is hope: A combination of demographic change and generational change is weakening the ability of the old-fashioned South to skew American politics and culture in the future. Peripheral Southern states like Florida and Virginia are increasingly competitive, and the Deep South may join them in time. In Texas once-reactionary cities like Houston and Dallas are competing with Austin as tolerant meccas for transplants who prefer the Sun Belt to the Old South. Immigration into the South from other countries and American regions is breaking down local oligarchies and old folkways.

The decline in Southern exceptionalism in time may lead to more of a convergence among the U.S. and other modern democracies. Let us hope so. We have had enough of the wrong kind of American exceptionalism.

  

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How The South Skews American Politics *swipe* [View all] , Mongo, Mon Jul-06-15 08:25 AM
 
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fuck off Michael Lind, politico.com and everyone who agrees.
Jul 06th 2015
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You want it to be one way....
Jul 06th 2015
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      i don't want the USA to be like Britain, Canada or Australia.
Jul 06th 2015
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      Um, that's not what this article is about
Jul 06th 2015
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      the article is too deeply-rooted in anti-South bias
Jul 06th 2015
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      well, shit, in THAT regard -- I don't want the USA to be that, either.
Jul 06th 2015
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      the article blames the South for behaviors that exist
Jul 06th 2015
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           Don't nobody live in those other states
Jul 06th 2015
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           great.
Jul 06th 2015
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           57% of all 10,000 people in Wyoming...lol
Jul 06th 2015
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                And 5k of them got wolves, bears and mountain lions in their back yard
Jul 06th 2015
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           did these things not start in the south and spread west?
Jul 06th 2015
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           they started in the Northeast and spread west.
Jul 06th 2015
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           its called the bible belt for a reason
Jul 06th 2015
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           the reason being that ppl who use the phrase are unfamiliar
Jul 06th 2015
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           I hear you.
Jul 06th 2015
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                i think this is true:
Jul 06th 2015
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      basically
Jul 06th 2015
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      In fairness, the author is from Texas.
Jul 06th 2015
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      Austin.
Jul 06th 2015
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           Makes sense.
Jul 06th 2015
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      what is it besides a blood soaked graveyard covered in racism?
Jul 06th 2015
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           *pats head*
Jul 06th 2015
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           Dublin-- I'll send you a postcard.
Jul 06th 2015
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                don't worry about it.
Jul 06th 2015
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                     Okay, but you know the last thing I am is worried.
Jul 06th 2015
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                          that's awesome, man.
Jul 06th 2015
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                               *goes for a high five but does fake hair fix gesture before SoWhat can*
Jul 06th 2015
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           i bet you are a ball of joy to hang out.
Jul 06th 2015
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                I could make that sound humorous with just enough alcohol
Jul 06th 2015
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                     lol
Jul 06th 2015
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      Mans folks hate the truth. Their house is dirty, but they refuse to see ...
Jul 06th 2015
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LMFAO!!
Jul 06th 2015
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. . .
Jul 06th 2015
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whut??? lol
Jul 06th 2015
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There was a study done on this.
Jul 06th 2015
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ok
Jul 06th 2015
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White northerners overall seem more shook than southern white folks
Jul 06th 2015
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      Shook? How so? Do you mean less likely to use physical violence
Jul 06th 2015
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I need to marinate on this
Jul 06th 2015
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I skimmed, but his argument is sort of in-line with
Jul 06th 2015
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This is one of the Truest articles ever written about the Dirty South!
Jul 06th 2015
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Neither side is 'better' though.
Jul 06th 2015
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We can't afford to fall into this, "Neither side is 'better' " -
Jul 06th 2015
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      I don't disagree, but c'mon we all know about good cop bad cop
Jul 06th 2015
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      Yeah, but look at the POTUS elections, the Racist South is the issue.
Jul 06th 2015
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           but Romney & McCain won several states outside the South.
Jul 06th 2015
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           Haha well said. But I'd wager most like their bread white.
Jul 06th 2015
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                LOL...
Jul 06th 2015
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      There are a lot of people moving down south from the North
Jul 06th 2015
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           I've been here since 96.
Jul 06th 2015
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What part of this is true to you?...
Jul 06th 2015
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      He addresses that.
Jul 06th 2015
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      The whole mentality of Southern Exceptionalism and the refusal to change
Jul 06th 2015
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Jul 06th 2015
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i from the south and this is a decent article..
Jul 06th 2015
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For the people defending the south, you do understand Florida is
Jul 06th 2015
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This article is w/e but I will say that Southern Black people are the be...
Jul 06th 2015
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Sowhat makes a loud point - he can screw up here easily too
Jul 06th 2015
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All of this applies to central NY or central PA or any other
Jul 07th 2015
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