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"On: The "Bernie Sanders minority voter" problem."


          

Everywhere I turn I see (mostly white women) commenting on how Hillary has the support of the "minority voter" - while they allege that Bernie Sanders is too pale for the white house and not a candidate for minorities. Huh?

Let's recap a few things:

-Sanders has been fighting for income equality and criminal justice reform long before Hillary ever even thought about these issues

-Sanders marched with civil rights activists and resisted segregation in 1964 while Hillary worked for Barry Goldwater's conservative campaign which largely ran on galvanizing the country *against* the Civil Rights Act

-Sanders voted against the "Defense of (traditional) Marriage Act" and fought for nationwide marriage equality in 1996. Hillary Clinton was still against gay marriage and marriage equality as of 2005.

-Sanders strongly opposed the Iraq invasion and vilification of muslims while Hillary fell in line w/ the status quo and supported the oligarchy's invasion of the middle-east.

-Sanders was the first senator to decline to attend Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's absurd speech to Congress earlier this year while Hillary Clinton was nowhere to be found, likely somewhere posturing in a political bunker waiting to calculate, calculate, calculate.

The list could go on and on....

So, as this narrative continues to get spun ad nauseum - my question is: where might they do that at?

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On: The "Bernie Sanders minority voter" problem. [View all] , Vex_id, Sun Jun-28-15 09:39 AM
 
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i have no problem with bernie, i jus dont think enough
Jun 28th 2015
1
But can Bernie Play the Sax?
Jun 28th 2015
2
^these are the real questions
Jan 12th 2016
105
Yup. It's also pathetic seeing her campaign co opt the gay marriage issu...
Jun 28th 2015
3
eh.. if obama can do it, so can she
Jun 28th 2015
4
      but as far as I remember Obama never spoke against it like her
Jun 28th 2015
6
      he's said marriage is defined as a man and a woman
Jun 28th 2015
9
           RE: he's said marriage is defined as a man and a woman
Jul 02nd 2015
34
                what exactly are you saying is not true?
Jul 02nd 2015
35
      oh, obama supported the iraqi war?
Jun 28th 2015
7
      I responded specifically to a comment about gay marriage
Jun 28th 2015
8
           yes i know - and fair point, but Hillary has never stood on strong groun...
Jun 28th 2015
11
                i dont disagree with your overall post
Jun 28th 2015
14
                     RE: i dont disagree with your overall post
Jan 17th 2016
114
      Oh for sure. Older generation of dems switched over when it was convenie...
Jun 28th 2015
10
      lol yeah. i kept thinking of the snl sketch of the biden/palin debate
Jun 28th 2015
12
      Obama support gay marriage in 1996
Jun 28th 2015
13
           10 years later he was against it
Jun 28th 2015
15
                yeah, I hated the pandering. EVERYONE knew that was BS.
Jun 29th 2015
18
Minorities just really love the Clinton name. That's all it is.
Jun 28th 2015
5
The same Clintons that sent millions of Black men to jail
Jun 28th 2015
16
      he was the first Black president
Jun 29th 2015
19
      Arsenio was that powerful.
Jun 29th 2015
27
           Wasn't that Toni Morrison's
Jul 26th 2015
45
      you could say that about every president from nixon forward
Jul 26th 2015
56
           You should read #163 and educate yourself on this issue.
Feb 11th 2016
165
                already knew that and yet we see people from that same era ...
Aug 18th 2019
198
1st candidate to say 'Black Lives Matter' w/out caveat should win imo.
Jun 28th 2015
17
keep waiting...
Jun 29th 2015
20
The country is not built on such a concept.
Jun 29th 2015
21
Yeah, because I could absolutely see Hillary say it
Jun 29th 2015
25
      Yep
Jun 29th 2015
29
      RE: Yeah, because I could absolutely see Hillary say it
Jun 29th 2015
31
I'm not entirely sure that's true tho.
Jun 29th 2015
22
RE: I'm not entirely sure that's true tho.
Jan 17th 2016
115
honestly, I don't think people really -know- Bernie Sanders
Jun 29th 2015
23
This is true, but to play D.A. Obama BUILT that machine
Jun 29th 2015
24
But has he cultivated the minority political relationships Clinton has?
Jun 29th 2015
26
Nope and very few have, shit OBAMA, didn't have that.
Jun 29th 2015
28
Isn't this ultimately the question though?
Aug 17th 2015
80
how could he cultivate relationships with orgs that are by-and-large
Jun 29th 2015
32
In Bernie Sanders, an unlikely - but real - threat to Hillary Clinton (s...
Jun 29th 2015
30
Bernie drawing historic crowds. #DatBerningFlame is real
Jul 02nd 2015
33
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JE960_Bernie_G_201507012348...
Jul 03rd 2015
36
that's mad impressive
Jul 03rd 2015
37
might be a wrap if he gets dat #silentmajority
Jul 03rd 2015
38
Santorum drawing historic crowds as well
Jul 03rd 2015
39
      LOL
Jul 04th 2015
40
      lol do these cats have no sense of dignity?
Jul 05th 2015
42
Bernie's Revolutionary Roots Nurtured in 60's Vermont:
Jul 04th 2015
41
^ for the open-minded, well-intentioned.
Jul 25th 2015
43
The confederate flag and Goldwater, if you want to aim at HRC
Jul 25th 2015
44
Going at her for the Goldwater thing is silly imo
Jul 26th 2015
47
      yeah, no doubt. just pointing out that there is plenty of mud to sling
Jul 26th 2015
48
      Yeah, Obama beat her by keeping mudslinging to a minimum
Jul 26th 2015
49
           he went hard on Iraq... HARD!!!
Jul 26th 2015
50
                it was his ace in the hole for sure
Jul 26th 2015
51
                     You know who did have the responsibility to vote on the Iraq war?
Jul 26th 2015
53
                          That he did. Maybe he should have ran in 08
Jul 26th 2015
55
                               actually she was in college.
Jul 26th 2015
57
                                    You sound like the "Obama hates America because, Bill Ayers" crowd
Jul 26th 2015
61
                                         of course she's not a segregationist - well, not anymore at least.
Jul 26th 2015
62
      supporting a segregationist is silly, I'll give you that.
Jul 26th 2015
52
           Yes she's a manchurian candidate segregationist
Jul 26th 2015
54
                what's really fun is that you just have to go back a couple years
Jul 26th 2015
58
                     Do you ever reply to anything people actually say?
Jul 26th 2015
60
                          Lmao
Aug 09th 2015
66
Bern addresses the SCLC (swipe - let's get this back on the rails fam)
Jul 26th 2015
46
Bernie's already done more in 2 weeks than Hillary has in 20 years
Jul 26th 2015
59
lol'z
Aug 09th 2015
63
I'm going to the jawn tomorrow
Aug 09th 2015
64
      Dope. Let us know what it's like on the ground.
Aug 09th 2015
65
           Symone Sanders (c) first out the limo
Aug 11th 2015
70
                Blacks love the Clintons yo...
Aug 11th 2015
71
                did his speech give you any inspiration?
Aug 11th 2015
73
                his speech, no. THE EVENT, YES!!!
Aug 11th 2015
75
                that's what's up! Thanks for this recap
Aug 11th 2015
77
he doesnt use the social justice warrior academic lefts
Aug 10th 2015
67
exactly
Aug 10th 2015
69
Didnt he just hire the founder of #blacklivesmatter
Aug 10th 2015
68
Yup
Aug 11th 2015
72
Yes - been courting her for weeks. Symone Sanders
Aug 11th 2015
76
No, the creators of #BLM are: Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, & Opal Tom...
Aug 11th 2015
78
      word, and BLM also doesn't back candidates
Aug 17th 2015
81
mostly white women and men are ignorant by design
Aug 11th 2015
74
#feelthebern (c) I am not my hair
Aug 17th 2015
79
Right now I feel like Lessig is closer to my politics than Bernie
Aug 18th 2015
82
Cornell stumping for Bern (vid)
Sep 17th 2015
83
Bernie's support among non-white voters is currently very low *link*
Sep 17th 2015
84
LOL @ "#AllLivesMatter" Clinton getting 84%+ of the black vote in S.C.
Oct 13th 2015
85
CNN had their pitchforks out, trying to put Bern in the NRA's pocket
Oct 14th 2015
86
Thats the problem with Bernie, he's full of rhetoric but out of touch...
Oct 14th 2015
87
      yeah, his campaign is completely out of touch with reality
Oct 14th 2015
88
           he talks a good game, can he get enough partisan support to get any...
Oct 14th 2015
89
                LOL@you thinking any of these other candidates would be different
Oct 14th 2015
90
                     RE: LOL@you thinking any of these other candidates would be different
Oct 14th 2015
91
                     My vote is not a strategy
Oct 14th 2015
92
                          RE: My vote is not a strategy
Oct 14th 2015
93
                     Bernie is too "pie in the sky", he's all like "I'm going to right every....
Oct 14th 2015
95
                          it's beyond sad that the one principled candidate
Nov 24th 2015
97
not surprised. Though they did pull HARD for Obama.
Oct 14th 2015
94
Hillary supports prison-industrial complex/wall st.; Bern dines at Busy ...
Nov 23rd 2015
96
Sanders leading in NH - within 1-2 percentage points in Iowa
Jan 11th 2016
98
Lets hope it lasts.
Jan 11th 2016
99
RE: Lets hope it lasts.
Jan 12th 2016
101
      RE: Lets hope it lasts.
Jan 12th 2016
102
RE: Sanders leading in NH - within 1-2 percentage points in Iowa
Jan 12th 2016
100
RE: Sanders leading in NH - within 1-2 percentage points in Iowa
Jan 12th 2016
103
RE: Sanders leading in NH - within 1-2 percentage points in Iowa
Jan 12th 2016
104
NH Iowa are weird..can't just go by their vote & translate to election.....
Jan 17th 2016
109
      RE: NH Iowa are weird..can't just go by their vote & translate to electi...
Jan 17th 2016
110
           Obama is more special than Bernie, right?
Jan 17th 2016
111
                RE: Obama is more special than Bernie, right?
Jan 17th 2016
112
                     RE: Obama is more special than Bernie, right?
Jan 17th 2016
118
                          RE: Obama is more special than Bernie, right?
Jan 17th 2016
121
                               January 2008, were you an Obama supporter?
Jan 17th 2016
122
                                    RE: January 2008, were you an Obama supporter?
Jan 21st 2016
130
RE: Sanders leading in NH - within 1-2 percentage points in Iowa
Jan 12th 2016
106
      I think he would lose the general
Jan 12th 2016
107
      RE: I think he would lose the general
Jan 12th 2016
108
      RE: "Where Do I Start?"
Jan 17th 2016
113
           horrible.
Jan 17th 2016
116
It's quite possible that the black & latino vote could determine this
Jan 17th 2016
117
RE: It's quite possible that the black & latino vote could determine...
Jan 17th 2016
119
RE: It's quite possible that the black & latino vote could determine...
Jan 17th 2016
123
      RE: It's quite possible that the black & latino vote could d...
Jan 17th 2016
127
I decided I was voting for Bernie when BLM tried to sabotage his
Jan 17th 2016
120
      It was embarrassing.
Jan 17th 2016
124
Anybody realize there is a debate tonight?
Jan 17th 2016
125
People are actually going to watch this one, I think.
Jan 17th 2016
126
fascinating how Clinton *still* polls at 70-80% re: non-white vote
Jan 21st 2016
128
Yah
Jan 21st 2016
129
RE: fascinating how Clinton *still* polls at 70-80% re: non-white vote
Jan 21st 2016
131
Bill got the juice
Jan 21st 2016
132
Killer Mike countering Coates was extraordinarily big-bodied:
Jan 21st 2016
133
David Brock? lol. Hill-dog's pandering is shameful.
Jan 23rd 2016
134
Agreed.
Jan 23rd 2016
135
Michelle Alexander on Hillary Clinton's Embrace of Mass Incarceration
Jan 31st 2016
136
This is all that matters.....
Jan 31st 2016
137
Bernie panicking? (SWIPE)
Jan 31st 2016
138
lol did you get that swipe from (CNN) Clinton News Network?
Jan 31st 2016
139
RE: lol did you get that swipe from (CNN) Clinton News Network?
Jan 31st 2016
142
Hillary supports policies that have harmed millions of POC+women
Jan 31st 2016
140
RE: Hillary supports policies that have harmed millions of POC+women
Jan 31st 2016
141
so someone asked a question and he said 3 critical words
Jan 31st 2016
143
      3 critical words that aren't true
Jan 31st 2016
144
           we can't acknowledge she did something stupid?
Jan 31st 2016
153
           RE: Republican
Jan 31st 2016
155
Krugman: Bernie Bros buying into the right-wing smear machine.
Jan 31st 2016
145
Berniebros like Michelle Alexander?
Jan 31st 2016
146
RE: Berniebros like Michelle Alexander?
Jan 31st 2016
147
Wrong. I was critiquing your title.
Jan 31st 2016
149
No, you were trivializing, missing the point, and jumping to conclusions...
Jan 31st 2016
150
      Wrong again
Jan 31st 2016
154
      Sure.
Jan 31st 2016
157
           I disagree with all your points, but I'm tired of this debate
Jan 31st 2016
158
      RE: No, you were trivializing, missing the point, and jumping to conclus...
Jan 31st 2016
160
This.
Feb 01st 2016
161
RE: Berniebros like Michelle Alexander?
Jan 31st 2016
159
lol k.
Jan 31st 2016
148
      There's nothing wrong with being a cynic, as long as you're right.
Jan 31st 2016
151
           He was dead wrong about Obama and free-trade globalization.
Jan 31st 2016
152
                What a surprise that The Nation would oversimplify that issue.
Jan 31st 2016
156
                     Oh, that's what you think Michelle Alexander did?
Feb 11th 2016
164
lol @ the CBC.
Feb 11th 2016
162
Hillary Clinton Does Not Deserve the Black Vote (Alexander)
Feb 11th 2016
163
John Lewis on Bernie vs. Clinton Civil Rights activism (vid)
Feb 12th 2016
166
Where she was: campaigning for a far-right segregationist
Feb 12th 2016
167
RE: John Lewis on Bernie vs. Clinton Civil Rights activism (vid)
Feb 12th 2016
168
Shaun King is ripping John Lewis apart on Facebook
Feb 12th 2016
169
He also supported Hillary against Obama
Feb 12th 2016
170
he did... until he didn't
Feb 12th 2016
179
I'm mad this isnt gaining more traction
Feb 12th 2016
181
Have you read this?
Feb 12th 2016
182
      its beautiful
Feb 12th 2016
183
I don't trust any of these old civil rights cats with anything.
Feb 13th 2016
184
This has become much clearer to me and it's pretty simple.
Feb 12th 2016
171
Even though she race-baited him in 2008
Feb 12th 2016
172
RE: Even though she race-baited him in 2008
Feb 12th 2016
173
      Bernie does best with younger black voters
Feb 12th 2016
174
           Hmmmm..
Feb 12th 2016
175
                The best analysis I've seen is from Glen Ford...
Feb 12th 2016
176
                     Good read.
Feb 12th 2016
177
More like Obama administrations was an extension of the Clintons
Feb 12th 2016
178
      Nah. I don't think so
Feb 12th 2016
180
It's amazing how bad Clinton is at this #NotASuperPredator
Feb 25th 2016
185
Clinton got 85% of the black vote on Super Tuesday
Mar 02nd 2016
186
I knew he'd have trouble. But I didn't expect this much trouble
Mar 02nd 2016
187
      He's not a Democrat and was never going to win for that alone
Mar 03rd 2016
188
      Yup. He seems disconnected. It's not his fault though
Mar 03rd 2016
189
           other thing is that there's a pragmatism to black voting.
Mar 03rd 2016
190
                RE: other thing is that there's a pragmatism to black voting.
Mar 03rd 2016
191
                ^wisdom that bore itself out later
Mar 06th 2020
206
this post started a year ago - finally there is a shift.
Apr 01st 2016
192
Clinton support collapsing among non-white voters (daily kos)
Apr 01st 2016
193
i'm still like him
Aug 16th 2019
194
lol vex you gotta come back and explain yourself lmao.
Aug 16th 2019
195
explain what?
Aug 16th 2019
196
a major related thing he did was revamp his campaign with poc
Aug 16th 2019
197
      howd that go?
Mar 05th 2020
202
"The Quiet Death of the Bernie Bro Attack"
Aug 20th 2019
199
it's always been a generational thing (mostly) which is hilarious af
Aug 21st 2019
200
Yes - in 2016 the generational demographics were fascinating
Aug 22nd 2019
201
decent post but Obama is considered from Chicago
Mar 05th 2020
203
yikes i hope this wasnt said as a positive thing
Mar 06th 2020
205
      of course it is.
Mar 06th 2020
207
           you gotta give this shit up
Mar 06th 2020
208
           ^^^ YOU NAH TEEEEE (c)
Mar 06th 2020
209
                oh now you want people to be nice instead of honest
Mar 06th 2020
213
           imagine stanning for the man who destroyed the uk labor party
Mar 06th 2020
210
☺️☺️
Mar 06th 2020
204
      RE: ☺️☺️
Mar 06th 2020
211
           Thats alot of won votes for someone who lost
Mar 06th 2020
212
                lol
Aug 19th 2020
214
                Sure is; +1,000 delegates. But it illustrates how Bernie never had
Aug 19th 2020
215
                     not sure why this is upped but repackage Bernie as a younger version...
Aug 19th 2020
216
                          Fair - and we do have younger people rising up to carry the baton
Aug 19th 2020
217
                               RE: Fair - and we do have younger people rising up to carry the baton
Aug 19th 2020
218
                                    uh, nothing you say negated what he said
Aug 19th 2020
219
                                         RE: uh, nothing you say negated what he said
Aug 20th 2020
220

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