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MEAT
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Mon Jun-08-15 11:28 AM

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"Do you feel a need to argue/debate/be heard?"


  

          

A few months of conversation just came to a head and I'm dipping out of that conversation and just wondering how far off I am.

I have some friends that are on some each one save one type of shit. If they meet a bigot they are want to try to bridge that gap. Same with racists, sexists, etc. that's their thing.

Me. I tried it at one point for a long time. I gained very little and list a lot of my time while not being fully in charge of my emotions. So now when I come across it, I say my peace, but don't seek commonality.

Last night dudes wife put up a Cavs vs Warriors, light skinned vs dark skinned meme. Dude is Persian his wife is Phillipino. I responded that it was in poor taste, can you take it down. Not even going at her, but the meme.

She responded that sorry if I was offended crap, that we all say racists and sexists things, and that it was just a joke.

I said I try to hold off on racial topics, definitely not in open company, and then I left the conversation.

Today I'm flooded with text messages. Apparently it was ok for me to come at her (which I didn't) but asking for the removal was too far. Then dude runs off a 1500 word text message page about all the past incidents that he's felt slighted on and held his tongue.

So I'm at this point. I expanded to him briefly on the origin of the light vs dark conversations, it's inherent ugliness, its roots in rape and miscegenation among other things and how the conversation still is being had internally between black people, repeated it was in poor taste for mixed company and resolved to dissolve the friendship.

I'm rambling. And just blown away that my comment has turned into this.

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Do you feel a need to argue/debate/be heard? [View all] , MEAT, Mon Jun-08-15 11:28 AM
 
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having an all-black circle is under rated.
Jun 08th 2015
1
^
Jun 08th 2015
2
welp
Jun 08th 2015
3
proof
Jun 08th 2015
19
      take the R & Y off your screenname son
Jun 08th 2015
25
right b/c black ppl never have disputes.
Jun 08th 2015
4
Family can shit on shitty family....non-Family will get rode out on doe....
Jun 08th 2015
7
what?
Jun 08th 2015
8
what?
Jun 08th 2015
12
      right.
Jun 08th 2015
14
           nahmean?
Jun 08th 2015
21
Yep.
Jun 08th 2015
40
this isn't really a dispute. his 'friends' are culturally insensitive.
Jun 08th 2015
9
      black ppl are never culturally-insensitive, either.
Jun 08th 2015
10
           I'm leaning towards this side on the issue.
Jun 08th 2015
16
           great.
Jun 08th 2015
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                OK
Jun 08th 2015
22
                having all-black friends is less exhausting when dealing with
Jun 08th 2015
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                     oh is it?
Jun 08th 2015
30
                     not easy, but it's a conversation that's worth having.
Jun 08th 2015
41
                          oh, they don't?
Jun 08th 2015
43
                               he told meat to go fuck himself, and brought up a rack of old news
Jun 08th 2015
44
                                    and he represents all non-black ppl.
Jun 08th 2015
49
                                    And at the heart of it it's the list that I'm most offended by
Jun 08th 2015
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                                         "What kind of friendship did I have where a dude has been
Jun 08th 2015
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                                              It's not even on some owe money or big favor shit
Jun 08th 2015
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                     Having all black friends didn't fit into my development
Jun 08th 2015
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           i doubt meat would tell a black friend to remove such content.
Jun 08th 2015
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           mm-hmm.
Jun 08th 2015
24
           Black friend I would've ignored. Still in poor taste but some of us
Jun 08th 2015
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           #wps
Jun 08th 2015
27
this... or at the very least "Gotta Keep Em Separated" - Offspring
Jun 08th 2015
5
I ain't even mad at this comment.
Jun 08th 2015
39
also, i think it's hilarious you told them to remove it.
Jun 08th 2015
6
Nah, if they were really bout that friendship, they woulda pulled it sta...
Jun 08th 2015
11
so what happens when they start asking him to pull stuff down
Jun 08th 2015
20
      Cultural Code Switching....
Jun 08th 2015
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I really did.
Jun 08th 2015
15
it wasnt like an innocuous meme though
Jun 08th 2015
46
no comment
Jun 08th 2015
13
my only issue with "checking" people
Jun 08th 2015
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I don't give the black folks credit for "understanding" the nuance
Jun 08th 2015
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how often do you really change a person's mind? most people walk away
Jun 08th 2015
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^ ^ ^ /post. no further reading required.
Jun 08th 2015
59
the culling
Jun 08th 2015
34
Yeah you should have stopped at the poor taste comment
Jun 08th 2015
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And that's the silliest part to me
Jun 08th 2015
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      imo, it's best to say your piece and move on
Jun 08th 2015
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           They posted it to a group forum we have though.
Jun 08th 2015
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                Yeah that's a bit different. I *kind of* feel the same way though
Jun 08th 2015
45
You went way deep on a shallow joke
Jun 08th 2015
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i think the laziness and the shallowness made it more offensive.
Jun 08th 2015
47
It was like a bad pun joke, to me
Jun 08th 2015
55
They're not black.
Jun 08th 2015
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I'm the same way
Jun 08th 2015
54
I wasn't upset. It was in poor taste for the presenter and audience.
Jun 08th 2015
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^^^
Jun 08th 2015
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I think well placed snark could have been more effective and ether-ous.
Jun 08th 2015
56
only if it involves known untruths or other erroneous info
Jun 08th 2015
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