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The truth is, this is a timely article, but also dangerous because the writer didn't seem to include enough science about the factors involved in the 'chemical imbalance' theory of mental disorders and tie that lack of knowledge into a clear understanding of better science.

Like the article mentioned, there is no 'E=mC²' of neurobiology. The amount of variables and factors involved in a clear-cut, simple relationship between depression (in this case) is simply beyond the knowledge of modern medicine. Likely because of the amount of resources needed to reduce something so complex as mental illness into a neat, orderly description.

One issue is that mental illness exists on a spectrum, from mild, 'normal' depression and anxiety which most everyone has at some point in their lives to moments of terrifying separations from reality.

The only things these illnesses have in common is that the person suffering has a mindbody connection which doesn't allow them to remain emotionally and physically competent to take care of themselves because of a source of stress, internal or external. If a study were to link genetics with ethnic and cultural factors, the thread would narrow even further.

Some of this is common sense. One woman may break up with her husband. She may grieve very deeply for a number of years, he may find a woman within a short time of the breakup. Same point of stress, different reactions.

One thing that was not listed but is a fact I learned from reading out psychiatric meds because of a case of depression is that the average amount of money spent for one drug to make it to market is 1B. Yeah, with a B. Also, the percentage of drugs that make it to market from the concept stage, IIRC is less than 5 pct.

In other words, the drug that hits has to make enough money to fund the other 95% of misses plus the corporate dynamics of hitting projections and the like.

Yes, Big Pharma is real, I guess. But like most ghosts they do serve a purpose.

Many people benefit from the SSRI's and other treatments. However they are rarely cure-alls. It's good that people are seeking help, it means less stress for everyone. But if someone read the article and thought, 'Well, the meds don't really work and I don't want to make fat cats fatter.' and decided to postpone or end their treatment than the article was unhelpful.

  

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The most popular anti-depressants based on a theory we know is wrong [View all] , imcvspl, Thu Apr-02-15 06:25 AM
 
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pills, pills, pills!
Apr 02nd 2015
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RE: The most popular anti-depressants based on a theory we know is wrong
Apr 02nd 2015
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I didn't want any of the SSRI's bc of the 'sexual side effects'.
Apr 02nd 2015
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Some actually increase libido..
Apr 02nd 2015
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anxiety is a physical disorder
Apr 02nd 2015
4
this is nonsense
Apr 02nd 2015
12
no it's not.
Apr 02nd 2015
20
      reading material:
Apr 02nd 2015
21
shut the fuck up.
Apr 02nd 2015
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      first of all
Apr 02nd 2015
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           RE: first of all
Apr 02nd 2015
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                noone should take those published studies seriously?
Apr 02nd 2015
26
agreed.
Apr 02nd 2015
7
^^^
Apr 02nd 2015
9
this is NOT nonsense
Apr 02nd 2015
13
this is a fantastic reply
Apr 02nd 2015
15
I have absolutely nothing to add.
Apr 02nd 2015
17
Can you be a body builder without eating protein?
Apr 02nd 2015
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True, SSRI's like any treatment of depression is likely unable
Apr 02nd 2015
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      my thoughts on depression
Apr 03rd 2015
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^
Apr 02nd 2015
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thanks for this
Apr 02nd 2015
28
L-Tryptophan works far better and has ALWAYS been better
Apr 02nd 2015
6
well thats not totally true
Apr 02nd 2015
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      no, it caused exactly two deaths due to contamination
Apr 02nd 2015
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What is this a surprise or something?
Apr 02nd 2015
8
do you know how HARD "they" will fight to keep that suppressed?
Apr 02nd 2015
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      Oh yes they are probably fighting right now.
Apr 02nd 2015
11
terrible headline, and the implication of the thesis statement is false
Apr 02nd 2015
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yah....
Apr 02nd 2015
32
Omega-3 and Depression
Apr 02nd 2015
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oh for christ's sakes.....
Apr 02nd 2015
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      ok you take christ, i'll take pete
Apr 02nd 2015
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