>like people who are just so single minded in their desire for >a baby. why would you want the latter without the former, or >think that the latter will bring you the former?
and baby's do bring joy. it happens all the time. we hear about women who never wanted children, having a child and it being the "joy of their lives" and all that. --------------------------------------- it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.