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28. "Another one, mostly in context of Civil War"
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http://forward.com/articles/179441/jews-mostly-supported-slavery-or-kept-silent-d/?p=all

Whenever I told someone that I was working on an exhibition called “Passages Through the Fire: Jews and the Civil War,” I typically got two responses. Both reflect the need for the exhibit (now on display at Yeshiva University Museum in New York), which presents the widely forgotten story of the full participation of Jews in the nation’s great existential crisis.
My sister’s reaction was typical: There were Jews in the Civil War? Who knew?
The second most common response was in some ways more interesting: The Jews who fought in the Civil War were against slavery, right? The discomfiting answer: not so much.
As Jewish historian Dale Rosengarten expresses it, quoting a Talmudic precept: “The law of the land is the law of the Jews.” From a modern perspective, it seems anomalous that a people whose history hinged on an epic escape from servitude would not have been deeply troubled by America’s “peculiar institution” — but few were.
Some Jews owned slaves, a few traded them, and the livelihoods of many, North and South, were inextricably bound to the slave system. Most southern Jews defended slavery, and some went further, advocating its expansion.
Notable among these was Judah P. Benjamin, labeled by the abolitionist Ben Wade, who served with Benjamin in the U.S. Senate, as “an Israelite with Egyptian principles.” Even in the North, many sympathized with the South and only a very few were abolitionists. Almost all Jews sought peace above all else. Until the war was at hand, they remained silent on the subject.
For me, that silence is problematic.


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I used to think African Americans and Jewish folks were in the same boat [View all] , Atillah Moor, Mon Feb-23-15 10:04 PM
 
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You're getting clowned for remotely being that naive
Feb 23rd 2015
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That's fine-- better to learn now than not at all
Feb 23rd 2015
2
have u ever heard of a guy named Farrakhan?
Feb 24th 2015
3
I was a fan, but never really understood his angle
Feb 24th 2015
5
oh i see.... ur just makin up stuff now 4 the sake of posting
Feb 24th 2015
17
      lol n/m
Feb 24th 2015
31
"gutter religion"
Feb 24th 2015
22
So by that rationale alot of black people arn't in the same boat right?
Feb 24th 2015
4
Im not following
Feb 24th 2015
6
      ...
Feb 24th 2015
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      Well if that's the case why did u ever think Jewish ppl were in the same
Feb 24th 2015
10
           ^This. Don't get the same boat talk.
Feb 24th 2015
12
           I always had a their persecution isn't much different than ours
Feb 24th 2015
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                the completely different historical narratives didn't tip u off?
Feb 24th 2015
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                I had really only looked at it in terms of persecution
Feb 24th 2015
19
                All peoples struggles are different. African-American and Africans
Feb 24th 2015
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                     African-American and Africans <- a lot of overlap though
Feb 24th 2015
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                          sure.
Feb 24th 2015
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           Clearly there have been, but they seem to be doing ok
Feb 24th 2015
13
           Well yeah life's all about learning and growing, I'm assuming u just
Feb 24th 2015
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           ALL his post make sense now
Feb 25th 2015
42
           i think the two groups have things to learn from one another
Feb 24th 2015
39
           yup
Feb 24th 2015
38
*jews you*
Feb 24th 2015
8
can I be enlightened on the meaning behind that?
Feb 24th 2015
9
      someone on here used the term when referring to a deal they made
Feb 24th 2015
24
same boat? cmon bruh...
Feb 24th 2015
11
Hey I grew up in an area called Goshen not far from Bethesda
Feb 24th 2015
16
oh shit, 124?
Feb 24th 2015
34
i caught that too. jokes for days
Feb 24th 2015
21
Both things can be true
Feb 24th 2015
25
Jewish Daily Forward had a whole series on this.
Feb 24th 2015
26
RE: paying slaves reparations and our abysmal record
Feb 24th 2015
27
     
           The Slaves of Charleston
Feb 24th 2015
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kinda
Feb 24th 2015
29
There's difference: We (Negroes) were in the boat...Jews financed them
Feb 24th 2015
32
I hate this statement, but have nothing to counter it with.
Feb 24th 2015
33
blks historically leaned on story of jewish bondage, moses, pharoah
Feb 24th 2015
35
I dunno where to start there
Feb 24th 2015
37
Confederacy's first Secretary of War AND State was Jewish.
Feb 24th 2015
40
Some sources say heavily others say minimally
Feb 24th 2015
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