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imcvspl
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"When science identifies/names things older cultures knew before"
Wed Feb-18-15 08:08 AM by imcvspl

  

          

why doesn't it validate those older cultures and their practices?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/02/17/bacterial-dna-from-mom-may-be-inherited/



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When science identifies/names things older cultures knew before [View all] , imcvspl, Wed Feb-18-15 08:07 AM
 
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I get your line of thinking but don't know any references in older cultu...
Feb 18th 2015
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yeah, I'm at a loss here
Feb 18th 2015
2
Me neither
Feb 18th 2015
4
setting myself up but: bacteria = chi
Feb 18th 2015
7
      That's a bit of a logical leap
Feb 18th 2015
8
      that's not true
Feb 18th 2015
10
      I was going to say that's a stretch. no yoga.
Feb 18th 2015
9
      structually similar
Feb 18th 2015
21
           The fact that cloned organisms take on different characteristics
Feb 18th 2015
25
      Oh jesus fucking christ.
Feb 18th 2015
11
      love ya... you won't ever hear me on this though
Feb 18th 2015
12
      that idea is so abstract it can be retrofitted to endless modern phenome...
Feb 18th 2015
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      only because you have an abstract idea of chi
Feb 18th 2015
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           everyone has an abstract idea of chi
Feb 18th 2015
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                but volumes of 'medical' information was written from that
Feb 18th 2015
26
                     thats extremely flimsy
Feb 18th 2015
27
                          uhhhh... they were doing surgery before the west
Feb 18th 2015
29
                               how'd they see bacteria? did they have microscopes?
Feb 18th 2015
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                               how did scientist posit things before quantum microscopes?
Feb 18th 2015
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                               right on.
Feb 18th 2015
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                               describing effects is 100% unrelated to attribution
Feb 18th 2015
39
                                    in other words it's not scientific fact until it's scientific fact
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         no, im saying that a level 1 scientific fact does not indicate further k...
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              i think we're saying similar things
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                   well lets get onto a narrower track under your #46 and my #49
Feb 18th 2015
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                               also re: microscopes
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    wait:
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         i'm not saying they discovered bacteria
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              stop
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              you're saying i'm wrong, i'm saying we're both right
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              okay.
Feb 18th 2015
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                               its almost certain that they did indeed make some stuff up out of thin a...
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    post #30
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         no, you cant because you seem to be missing a key component
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              are you denying those cultures had a process as well?
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                   im saying that their processes were not controlled
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                        take the kidneys
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                        that may very well be true but dont stop there
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                             fair enough
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                                  thats true but using terminology correctly matters in this case
Feb 18th 2015
59
                                                        also, i realize now 'knew' in the OP title is the sticking point
Feb 18th 2015
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      *backs out of post*
Feb 18th 2015
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This is a better example of science validating folk wisdom
Feb 18th 2015
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You mean western science
Feb 18th 2015
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by Western Science, you mean evidence-based science?
Feb 18th 2015
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Weak example.
Feb 18th 2015
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initiationofplato -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVt2fuV9EYY
Feb 18th 2015
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I don't understand how this is news to anyone when
Feb 18th 2015
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i think its the idea of lateral gene tranafer w/o actual transfer
Feb 18th 2015
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This isn't just about the mother passing bacteria to the child. This is
Feb 18th 2015
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Not sure what the connection is here to be honest
Feb 18th 2015
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thats mostly what i meant by abstract. no mechanism for how it works.
Feb 18th 2015
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      you're basically saying
Feb 18th 2015
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           no, im saying that nothing is presented with a mechanism.
Feb 18th 2015
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bacteria =/= midichloreans nm
Feb 18th 2015
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this is why i set myself up
Feb 18th 2015
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All i'd like to contribute is that it saddens me to know
Feb 18th 2015
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unfortunately burning books is the sharpest knife in the dogmatic toolki...
Feb 18th 2015
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I remember hearing a piece about India rushing to catalog their shit
Feb 18th 2015
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Objective universal fact =/= what you do before marriage
Feb 18th 2015
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LOL!!
Feb 18th 2015
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