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janey
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Wed Feb-11-15 07:54 PM

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21. "man, what a day"
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sorry this has taken so long. It's been insane here.

I used Chantix, which helped me a LOT, but the biggest help for me was, first, that I was extremely motivated to quit, and second, the support from Chantix. The prescription comes with an online program that includes tips and suggestions, kudos every day you get through without a "slip", and lots of follow up. There is a lot of discussion here and there about side effects of Chantix, including depression and suicidal ideation. I never got these, but I've certainly had these side effects in other attempts to quit smoking. I honestly don't think they're Chantix side effects -- I think they are side effects of nicotine withdrawal.

I do not find nicotine replacement to be helpful. I tried it myself several times, and it didn't help at all. Here's why: Smoking cessation is two things. It's the physical addiction and the emotional addiction. The emotional addiction is never gone (see, e.g., that I still crave a smoke now and then). The physical addiction is, I understand, a three-week hump, after which your body isn't screaming at you even though your mind may still be screaming at you. Nicotine replacement puts off the physical withdrawal while you get used to not having a cigarette in your hand or a smoke when you're frustrated or bored. But to me, that's backwards. That's putting off the physical withdrawal (the fast part) until the emotional withdrawal is under control (which is never).

I know that there are people who have successfully quit using nicotine replacement and I congratulate them and smoking cessation really is about what works.

Something to remember is that smoking cessation has all the physiological hallmarks of depression -- disturbed sleep, anger, obsessive thinking, changes in eating patterns, despair about the future, you name it. Wellbutrin (Zyban, when marketed for smoking cessation) can help with all of these and it has also been used successfully as a smoking cessation aid.

About 14 years ago, I quit for ~1.5 years, using Wellbutrin and, most important, affirming what I felt. Rather than using affirmations that denied what I felt ("I am a nonsmoker now"), I would say out loud to myself something like "fuck I really want a cigarette" then I would say, "Not now. Maybe later." And then later (which might be five minutes later) when I would get the urge again, I would say "Not now, maybe later." Later, later, later. But if you say NEVER AGAIN then it turns into a huge boulder you're trying to lift rather than a little pebble.



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All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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Every hundred years, all new people

  

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I haven't smoked in 6 2/3 years [View all] , janey, Tue Feb-10-15 11:27 PM
 
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RE: I haven't smoked in 6 2/3 minutes :(
Feb 10th 2015
1
That's really fantastic!
Feb 10th 2015
2
you bet I do
Feb 11th 2015
8
proud of your journey Janes
Feb 10th 2015
3
Be healthy y'all (c) Dead Prez
Feb 10th 2015
4
wait - thats SIX and TWO THIRDS years?
Feb 10th 2015
5
I bet Janey will cosign this
Feb 11th 2015
6
yep
Feb 11th 2015
7
the problem is that you never really *forget* what it was like to have
Feb 11th 2015
14
      One thing I notice
Feb 11th 2015
22
           this is def true
Feb 12th 2015
26
           yep i take a moment and mentally weigh out the pros and cons...
Feb 12th 2015
28
                another con is how fucking hard it is to quit
Feb 12th 2015
29
                     yeah its real serious. the last two times ive quit it took medical
Feb 12th 2015
31
                          Once I had a staph infection and my doctor wanted to hospitalize me
Feb 12th 2015
32
                               nothin like seein ppl at the hospital outside with all kindsa shit
Feb 12th 2015
33
Hi Janey *waves*
Feb 11th 2015
9
I love you Auntie Janey, please dont do it.
Feb 11th 2015
10
coming up to ten months
Feb 11th 2015
11
Everyone in this thread that has time served in quitting
Feb 11th 2015
12
i went about 8 months without.
Feb 11th 2015
13
congrats!
Feb 11th 2015
15
I quit about 6 years ago too
Feb 11th 2015
16
my FIL stopped smoking 10 years ago due to lung problems
Feb 11th 2015
17
after this pack!
Feb 11th 2015
18
damn i remember when you started taking chantix
Feb 11th 2015
19
I started taking it about 10 days before quitting.
Feb 11th 2015
20
congrats! my wife quit around the same time
Feb 11th 2015
23
thanks -- and thanks to all above who congratulated me
Feb 11th 2015
24
sup janeykins!
Feb 11th 2015
25
I was just wondering where you been? What you reading?
Feb 12th 2015
27
I just started reading a memoir
Feb 12th 2015
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