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initiationofplato
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25. "Consider it again, I'll be more clear"
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Fri Feb-06-15 03:31 PM by initiationofplato

          

>the reasons people go to see old commissioned freelance
>pieces and stuff from somebody's old decrepit sketchbooks are
>wide and varied and has more to do with what they personally
>value (or perceive they SHOULD value) than any kind of
>objective good.

The only way to measure artistic merit is through objectivity. Objectivity is not bound by a certain set of rules or ideologies, or culture, or age, or socialization. Let's assume that a piece of art was made in a certain era, influenced by a point in time where the culture represented a specific set of ideals. The rebirth felt in the renaissance had a very vibrant, exploratory, and powerful energy. Art, people, information, knowledge, etc. was flowing from the old world and in the process people awoke from the dark and middle ages, which was pure savagery and insanity.

One can argue that "subjective" art from that period could only be understood, felt, enjoyed, etc. by people whom experienced that specific era, as they would be the only ones to feel and understand its roots. However, as we can see, there are pieces of objective art from that era which are just as powerful today, and garner just as much attention. Not all of them, but there are many examples, those are the objectively good pieces of art. Timeless art is able to transcend cultural and time constrictions and touch us today, in the same way it touched the artist in his/her day. The Objective good label is usually given to pieces of art which transcend our socialization and grab us as human beings. The only way to know is to go and experience them yourself.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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Objective "Good" [View all] , hardware, Fri Feb-06-15 11:14 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
There's good taste and bad taste
Feb 06th 2015
1
is taste not subjective?
Feb 06th 2015
3
Yes. A lot of people don't have taste at all though
Feb 06th 2015
4
      is that lack of taste or lack of interest?
Feb 06th 2015
8
yup
Feb 06th 2015
10
objective is subjective
Feb 06th 2015
2
objectivity is dependent upon mutual agreement
Feb 06th 2015
5
      right, it's an opt in or opt out
Feb 06th 2015
6
      thats not objectivity
Feb 06th 2015
9
           right now we're trying to agree on the variables which qualify
Feb 06th 2015
11
                the only objective variable, imo, is "does it work?"
Feb 06th 2015
13
                     RE: art
Feb 06th 2015
14
                          in this instance the goal is defined.
Feb 06th 2015
16
                               i'm saying any instance of objectivity follows this
Feb 06th 2015
17
                                    i see what you're saying
Feb 06th 2015
18
There isn't an objective color blue in my opinion.
Feb 06th 2015
7
nope... you could never describe it to me
Feb 06th 2015
12
Two things
Feb 06th 2015
26
what does this blue look like?
Feb 06th 2015
29
      Blue has a wavelength of 450–495 nm
Feb 06th 2015
31
           that's what it is, explain it so a 5yo can *see* it
Feb 06th 2015
32
                I don't have a spectrometer, but I'm sure pantone has something
Feb 06th 2015
33
                     the 5yo is blind
Feb 06th 2015
34
#0000FF.
Feb 07th 2015
39
I think there is objective 'bad.'
Feb 06th 2015
15
wrong place
Feb 06th 2015
19
No, but there is something approaching an objective "well executed
Feb 06th 2015
20
There is no doubt an objective good exists.
Feb 06th 2015
21
wow that's a shitty definition
Feb 06th 2015
22
      It has the most merit and evidence to support it
Feb 06th 2015
23
           that isn't evidence to me
Feb 06th 2015
24
               
                     no, you're clear
Feb 06th 2015
30
                          It wasn't a personal value
Feb 06th 2015
35
people who voted blue have way more fun
Feb 06th 2015
27
certain masterpieces have an Objective "Good"
Feb 06th 2015
28
The Americans...is objectively good.
Feb 06th 2015
36
Prove it then...
Feb 07th 2015
37
depends on the art, music, or film.
Feb 07th 2015
38

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