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DJ Wade-O
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Wed Dec-24-14 03:23 PM

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"The Real Gentrification Issue Black Folk Won't Deal With"


  

          

I've been living in Newark, NJ for about 11 years now. And I've watched Jersey City, DC, Brooklyn and now Newark go thru the gentrification process. Newark is not where the other two are, but its on its way. Downtown is rolling right now and its only a matter of time before that development expands into the wards.

Was having a conversation with a friend who lives in Newark's Central Ward where much of the development is taking place. And he was frustrated. He was like man its only a matter of time before they move us out. History would say this is probably true.

So I then asked him "why?" "They'll improve the neighborhood and raise the rents," was his answer. Another good point. Couldn't argue that.

But here's the thing....why are we renting? Bad credit? Sure? Don't have enough income to qualify for a loan? Sure. But if I'm honest, the real deal is that we need to do a better job of teaching one another how to manage the money we do have.

There are a lot of us who do have good credit. Who are dope at managing money. Who can qualify for loans even though they aren't making 6 figures. We need to invest that knowledge back into our people man. In most cases, sneakers, clothes, cars and the like are depreciating assets. Sure you have to buy them, but we got to be wise in how much we invest in those things.

And let's also, be 100, In a lot of cases, if you have the money to rent, you have the money to own, since you are more than likely covering the mortgage of the place you are renting. Your credit may be screwed though because of student loans or credit card debt. Its why we need to be talking to our kids about this stuff before the get to high school. Those types of bad decisions can take years to climb out of.

If you own your home, the only way they can move you out thru gentrification is raising the taxes. At that point...you should be able to sell your crib for a profit since the area has improved (That is unless you bought at the height of the housing bubble).

I'm probably over simplifying a bit. But we need to own where we live. We didn't create this system, but we can for sure work it to our advantage.


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The Real Gentrification Issue Black Folk Won't Deal With [View all] , DJ Wade-O, Wed Dec-24-14 03:23 PM
 
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This
Dec 24th 2014
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you beat me to it
Dec 24th 2014
2
Dude, why are you and others so eager to find fault or rebuttal
Dec 24th 2014
13
      I understand what you're saying, but as a black man
Dec 24th 2014
15
      THat ain't it bro.
Dec 24th 2014
18
           I have good credit and every time they keep telling me I'm pre approved
Dec 24th 2014
19
           Why do you want or need more Credit Cards
Dec 24th 2014
21
                pre-approvals are hella shaky at best
Dec 24th 2014
27
                I'm not a fan of credit cards at all
Dec 24th 2014
28
                no credit cards = no mortgage approval
Dec 24th 2014
33
                     You can build credit without credit cards
Dec 24th 2014
40
                          Lol most black ppl don't have someone to cosign
Dec 24th 2014
56
                          I'm 35 and never had a car note.
Dec 24th 2014
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                               my first time having a car note... don't like it at all...
Dec 25th 2014
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                          Uh, we in Brooklyn. No need for a car.
Dec 25th 2014
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                          A car note won't build your score nearly as much as revolving credit.
Dec 26th 2014
111
                               this is simply not true.
Dec 28th 2014
136
                                    Youu can get a mortgage without a car note but not without revolving cre...
Dec 28th 2014
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                                         I've closed a number of loans with zero revolving credit in the past
Dec 29th 2014
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                Every time I go to Chase they ask me to apply and I'm pre approved
Dec 25th 2014
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                because I spent 12 years without one and it affected my credit
Dec 25th 2014
78
           it most certainly is
Dec 25th 2014
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      Thanks for articulating that.
Dec 26th 2014
88
No
Dec 24th 2014
3
That's not all of it.
Dec 24th 2014
8
      That's most of it
Dec 24th 2014
20
What are the signs of gentrification in Newark?
Dec 24th 2014
4
Lots of investment downtown in the Central Ward
Dec 24th 2014
10
The current generation at the age ready to buy is very different
Dec 24th 2014
5
Student Loans is a big issue
Dec 24th 2014
9
      Also this generation is not going to have pension and social security
Dec 24th 2014
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           Yeah we gonna have be 401K and IRA's
Dec 24th 2014
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yea thats a none issue in my home town
Dec 24th 2014
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The two reasons you listed account for prolly 80% of it.
Dec 24th 2014
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If you are a transplant, sure. If you are native, maybe not
Dec 24th 2014
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      Kinda true. Kinda.
Dec 24th 2014
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           here's that post
Dec 24th 2014
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           Buy a condo
Dec 24th 2014
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                Condos have high HOA and not everybody want to buy a condo
Dec 24th 2014
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                     Right and these fees can change/become more than
Dec 24th 2014
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                          not to mention the special assessments
Dec 24th 2014
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Wade, thanks for brining up an honest topic.
Dec 24th 2014
14
Dialog is happening...nice for you to ask
Dec 24th 2014
16
Everything can't keep being they
Dec 24th 2014
17
Bro, You are speaking the Hard Truth.
Dec 24th 2014
37
it aint no know it all, dude. it comes down to NUMBERS
Dec 24th 2014
38
      So you're trying to tell that man he's wrong.
Dec 25th 2014
72
      But thats the (vaugely stated) point, the roadblocks are all us
Dec 26th 2014
117
           it's still oversimplification
Dec 26th 2014
           it's still oversimplification
Dec 26th 2014
118
there has been study, after study, after study
Dec 24th 2014
23
Not saying those things don't exist
Dec 24th 2014
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it costs money to save money.
Dec 24th 2014
25
You can buy a house with a 600 FICO score and $1,000 in the bank
Dec 24th 2014
32
Thank you.
Dec 24th 2014
34
No, you can get literally nothing in any of those areas for that price
Dec 24th 2014
35
      this dude is on some bullshit and dont know what he talkin about
Dec 24th 2014
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           You can get a condo in Jersey for 70K.
Dec 24th 2014
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           you realize NYC aint in Jersey and IE aint in Los Angeles?
Dec 24th 2014
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                LOL
Dec 24th 2014
45
                Huh???
Dec 24th 2014
51
                     RE: Huh???
Dec 24th 2014
54
                          Dude how old are you?
Dec 24th 2014
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                               RE: Dude how old are you?
Dec 24th 2014
68
                Wait, what part of Oak Cliff, b/c they're in full gentrification swing n...
Dec 26th 2014
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                     near Cedar Crest golf course, the VA hospital, Sweet Georgia Browns
Dec 26th 2014
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                          I know that area well...
Dec 26th 2014
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                               We have a house directly across from Cedar Crest Golf Course
Dec 27th 2014
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           20 Min outside of NYC in Newark, you get this for <$70K
Dec 24th 2014
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                I like this one...
Dec 24th 2014
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                     I live 5-10 minutes from there.
Dec 24th 2014
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                          nobody wants to live in an industrial area with hazardous chemicals
Dec 24th 2014
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                               No chemical plants
Dec 24th 2014
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Break it down for me.
Dec 24th 2014
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To be brutally honest...
Dec 24th 2014
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      As of now
Dec 24th 2014
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           I'd live here...
Dec 24th 2014
61
           Inbox
Dec 24th 2014
64
           I bought into 28212 a few years ago.
Dec 25th 2014
75
                i lived in the QC from 89-95. to see where the city is now is pretty
Dec 25th 2014
77
                do yall have kids? what schools do they go to?
Dec 26th 2014
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                     no kids yet
Dec 26th 2014
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                          you know anyone with kids that attend schools in your area?
Dec 26th 2014
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                               my neighbor has 2 kids who are smart as shit.
Dec 27th 2014
122
I gotta cosign this as a former mortgage broker
Dec 28th 2014
137
Individually it's extremely hard..
Dec 24th 2014
46
And this is all I am saying bro.
Dec 24th 2014
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How Bill Cosby of you.
Dec 24th 2014
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The real issue is the marriage/out of wedlock birth rates
Dec 24th 2014
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we trying to get a horse, you talking about the cart
Dec 24th 2014
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      It's the issue, even single black folks
Dec 24th 2014
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           life is not all about money
Dec 24th 2014
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                Nah depending on a roommate to cover your bills
Dec 24th 2014
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                     not true.
Dec 24th 2014
66
More "twice as good" bullshit
Dec 25th 2014
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RE: More &amp;amp;quot;twice as good&amp;amp;quot; bullshit
Dec 25th 2014
71
      this makes some sense.
Dec 25th 2014
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      More people living under one roof
Dec 25th 2014
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           RE: More people living under one roof
Dec 25th 2014
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           American culture seems to be so against this and I hate that
Dec 26th 2014
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                it also helps create tighter knit communities too
Dec 26th 2014
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                     ppl dont do it cause they dont wanna put up with nobody else's shit
Dec 26th 2014
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                          other culture's manage it just fine though
Dec 26th 2014
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Truth
Dec 25th 2014
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many MANY of us...dont know what we dont know
Dec 25th 2014
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We gotta pass the knowledge down Bin
Dec 26th 2014
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      you preaching to the choir with me, talk to these other clowns
Dec 26th 2014
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           But Bib, you see they're not trying to listen.
Dec 26th 2014
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                ummm have you been reading my post???
Dec 26th 2014
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                     It's not just about your opinion playa. But
Dec 26th 2014
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zero financial literacy + poverty
Dec 25th 2014
84
RE: zero financial literacy + poverty
Dec 26th 2014
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RE: But here's what I'm saying....buy where you live.
Dec 26th 2014
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      If you live in a ghetto you have like 4 options
Dec 26th 2014
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      RE: if you can't really leave due to whatever circumstances
Dec 26th 2014
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      this is naive
Dec 26th 2014
102
           Investing in your community is not only financial...
Dec 26th 2014
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                hard to do some of those things without organization
Dec 26th 2014
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                     If it's hard to do so what?
Dec 27th 2014
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      LOL
Dec 27th 2014
127
      I see that you tried to backdoor a convo.
Dec 27th 2014
130
           OK
Dec 29th 2014
147
      I think Black folks have a really twisted sense of loyalty to "the hood"
Dec 29th 2014
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what do you think is better than a FHA loan?
Dec 26th 2014
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hello? how yall gon say we need to share info and then not answer questi...
Dec 27th 2014
121
nothing is better unless you have a bunch of cash...
Dec 27th 2014
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if you have spare time, you need less cash.
Dec 28th 2014
139
      you have been getting "lucky" with these home repairs
Dec 29th 2014
145
id say a conventional if only for the pmi/mip
Dec 28th 2014
133
      fha: 600 credit + 3.5% down -- conventional: 700 credit + 5% down
Dec 28th 2014
134
           they wanted 650 and 20% for the conventional...
Dec 28th 2014
138
                five digits...can't edit anymore
Dec 29th 2014
142
                we are talking ENTRY points not re-fi or HELOC
Dec 29th 2014
144
                Let's revisit this again
Dec 29th 2014
146
                     we mostly agree with each other
Dec 29th 2014
148
Let's be honest here. FHA loans are a hair above sub-prime.
Dec 26th 2014
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      RE: Let's be honest here. FHA loans are a hair above sub-prime.
Dec 26th 2014
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           bruh, you said what i've been saying all along in this post...
Dec 26th 2014
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Let's focus on you and your friend for a bit. What yall's credit look li...
Dec 26th 2014
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This always is so polarized here by where people live
Dec 26th 2014
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are u in a gentrified area?
Dec 26th 2014
109
Simple: Have all Black ppl do Dave Ramsey until they debt free.
Dec 27th 2014
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life happens...
Dec 27th 2014
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      let's start with one calendar year of paying all bills on time then
Dec 27th 2014
125
      no doubt. unfortunately we have been duped into spending all
Dec 27th 2014
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      it's really easy to pay on time too. you just do it.
Dec 28th 2014
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      THIS is the real problem.
Dec 29th 2014
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yeah some do not want to fall in line
Dec 27th 2014
128
you people think the world is only nyc, chicago, dc and philly
Dec 27th 2014
131
LMFAO @ bums crying about gentrification. Are people that dumb?
Dec 27th 2014
129
*logs in to pay bills in separate tab in this post*
Dec 28th 2014
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