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12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland Police officer at Cudell recreation center dies
Police: Suspect had toy semi-automatic pistol

Veronica McGraw, Tim Rearden
5:17 PM, Nov 22, 2014
6 mins ago

CLEVELAND - A 12-year-old boy shot by a Cleveland Police officer at a west side recreation center has died.

Cleveland Police Patrolman Association president Jeff Follmer said the boy died at the hospital early Sunday morning.

The Cleveland Division of Police Use of Deadly Force Investigation Team is investigating the officer-involved shooting that happened on Saturday at about 3:30 p.m. at Cudell Recreation Center located at 1910 West Blvd.

Officers responded to the center for reports of a male with a gun. Police said witnesses reported that a male in the playground area was waving a gun and pointing it at people.

A 911 call to emergency dispatchers has been obtained by newsnet5 and the caller states a child is "pulling a gun in and out of his pants and pointing it at people."

The caller goes on to say, "It's probably fake."

The man described the child as black, wearing a camouflage hat and a grey jacket with black sleeves.

(You can hear the 911 tape in the video player above. WARNING: The recording contains some offensive language.)

Police said when they arrived, they located the suspect and advised him to raise his hands.

The suspect did not follow officer’s orders and then reached to his waist for the gun, according to police.

Officers then shot the 12-year-old boy in the torso.

Police say the suspect was in possession of an “airsoft” type replica gun which resembles a semi-automatic pistol.

The toy gun had the orange safety indicator removed, according to police.

The 12-year-old was transported to MetroHealth Medical Center, where he later died.

One officer was transported to Fairview Hospital for treatment for an ankle injury.

Two officers involved will be placed on administrative leave, which is protocol in officer-involved shooting incidents.

NewsChannel5 and newsnet5 will bring you more details as they become available.

  

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12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland Police officer at Cudell recreation ce... [View all] , j0510, Wed Nov-26-14 02:04 PM
 
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That's despicable.
Nov 23rd 2014
1
I give the cops the benefit of the doubt...if their story is truthful
Nov 23rd 2014
2
the story doesn't say he pulled it out. It says he "reached"
Nov 23rd 2014
3
      RE: the story doesn't say he pulled it out. It says he "reached"
Nov 23rd 2014
5
           So do adults. And not every adult in that situation is killed.
Nov 23rd 2014
7
                They were talking him down and he reached for the gun...
Nov 23rd 2014
9
                You just made that up.
Nov 23rd 2014
15
                     You want a Serpico style standoff?
Nov 24th 2014
107
                          Watch and learn:
Nov 24th 2014
143
                RE: So do adults. And not every adult in that situation is killed.
Nov 23rd 2014
11
                     Right. Let's kill them so they learn to listen next time.
Nov 23rd 2014
14
                          You're the one being extreme fam
Nov 23rd 2014
22
                               Are you a trained police officer?
Nov 23rd 2014
23
                                    They're trained to give a clear instruction to put hands up.
Nov 24th 2014
40
                                         3 different versions have been communicated so far.
Nov 24th 2014
49
                                              yes, the incident just happened yesterday, right?
Nov 24th 2014
53
                                                   Unless they actually instructed him to drop the weapon and then...
Nov 24th 2014
58
                                                        cool.
Nov 24th 2014
59
He pulled a gun on cops.........
Nov 23rd 2014
4
correction, a child reached for his toy
Nov 23rd 2014
12
      Who the fuck reaches for a gun when in the presence of cops?
Nov 23rd 2014
13
      that's not what you said. I'm correcting what you said in all caps
Nov 23rd 2014
16
      He was 12. TWELVE. He was a child reaching for his toy.
Nov 23rd 2014
17
      that fool in Colorado shot over 70 people at the movies
Nov 23rd 2014
18
           or giving orders and shooting you when you follow them.
Nov 23rd 2014
20
      a 12 yr old boy who has guns pointed at him by cops, that's who.
Nov 24th 2014
44
      A BB Gun is not a toy
Nov 26th 2014
229
           we should recast A Christmas Story with Tamir as Ralphie...
Nov 26th 2014
230
thats unfortunate.
Nov 23rd 2014
6
When the cops tv show crew member got shot around here
Nov 23rd 2014
8
I participate in airsoft competitions wit my young nephews
Nov 23rd 2014
yeah. this one had the tip broke off. :- / it's tragic.
Nov 23rd 2014
19
      RE: yeah. this one had the tip broke off. :- / it's tragic.
Nov 23rd 2014
26
.
Nov 23rd 2014
10
why should i believe the police are telling the truth
Nov 23rd 2014
21
I look at it like this. Maybe I'm naive...
Nov 23rd 2014
24
      where did i say that police officers are inherently evil?
Nov 23rd 2014
34
           Where did he say you did? He said "I look at it like this. Maybe I'm nai...
Nov 24th 2014
42
The police are out of control. THIS WAS DAMN CHILD! A CHILD
Nov 23rd 2014
25
if the above facts are accurate...
Nov 23rd 2014
27
why don't we just ban guns as toys
Nov 23rd 2014
28
Toy or not don't pull it out on a cop after all this....
Nov 23rd 2014
29
      We don't know the real story here. From the police statement..
Nov 23rd 2014
30
Seems knee-jerk but where are this boy's parents?
Nov 23rd 2014
31
yeah, the 911 caller said it was prolly fake...
Nov 23rd 2014
32
it was 3:30 in the afternoon
Nov 23rd 2014
33
It's a RECREATION CENTER
Nov 24th 2014
36
      not where are they physically, where are they to teach him basic shit
Nov 25th 2014
198
Don't believe ANYTHING the cops have said
Nov 24th 2014
35
I will never understand why they have to KILL?!Why not shoot the ankle
Nov 24th 2014
37
Inexcusable and heart breaking
Nov 24th 2014
38
those toy guns need to look like toys.
Nov 24th 2014
39
This is very troubling
Nov 24th 2014
41
right
Nov 24th 2014
43
folks gotta stop treating this like Oscar Grant or Sean Bell.
Nov 24th 2014
45
I was taught to *never* have a weapon in your hands when cops come
Nov 24th 2014
46
I'm of two minds
Nov 24th 2014
47
whole thing is just sad
Nov 24th 2014
48
AN AIRSOFT GUN IS NOT A TOY
Nov 24th 2014
50
Yo, seriously... Fuck anyone who places any blame on this 12yr old boy.
Nov 24th 2014
51
That wasn't meant for you specifically. Responded in wrong place.
Nov 24th 2014
52
It's definitely an adult's fault
Nov 24th 2014
54
The only blame for this child dying is the police officer. That's it.
Nov 24th 2014
57
      To your point. Kids do dumb shit and they sometimes die because of it.
Nov 24th 2014
62
           Accident my ass.
Nov 24th 2014
64
                You think the cop meant to kill a 12 year old kid with a toy gun?
Nov 24th 2014
94
                     That doesn't make it an accident.
Nov 24th 2014
102
                     I think he meant to kill a black threat
Nov 27th 2014
264
12 isn't that young
Nov 25th 2014
191
no, 12 IS that young. And I don't believe in approaching 12 year olds as...
Nov 25th 2014
196
Maybe no one is at fault.... Maybe shit just happens
Nov 26th 2014
231
      No, they were supposed to use tact.
Nov 26th 2014
233
except the article says its an airsoft type replica toy with the orange
Nov 24th 2014
56
except all airsoft guns are bb guns. BB Guns are not toys
Nov 24th 2014
60
      they put airsoft in quotes because it wasnt an actual airsoft bbgun
Nov 24th 2014
63
           No, it wasn't
Nov 24th 2014
70
                nah you right i misread.
Nov 24th 2014
80
                     It's cool. I'm still not saying it's justified, but it's def murky
Nov 24th 2014
85
                          yep.
Nov 24th 2014
91
Surely you're not blaming the 12 yr old kid.
Nov 24th 2014
61
      Surely you don't think it's that simple
Nov 24th 2014
65
           Bosnia was a war zone....
Nov 24th 2014
72
           This is what I'm saying.
Nov 24th 2014
73
           i see this in tv and movies more than in real life.
Nov 24th 2014
75
           Surely you don't think it was possible for trained police to deal
Nov 24th 2014
134
A few BB guns, for reference:
Nov 24th 2014
55
you pull one of those w/the tip gone--you rightfully will get
Nov 25th 2014
185
anyone refusing to place any culpability on the child
Nov 24th 2014
66
Nevermind.
Nov 24th 2014
69
I'm team #fuckthepolice but this isn't the one-side affair some want
Nov 24th 2014
67
RE: I'm team #fuckthepolice but this isn't the one-side affair some want
Nov 24th 2014
68
I think adults living through these interactions is faulty conclusion
Nov 24th 2014
76
      My issue is police officers escalating as opposed to de-escalating.
Nov 24th 2014
82
RE: to expect anyone to risk their life
Nov 24th 2014
78
no, that's not the job.
Nov 24th 2014
79
      is it unreasonalbe to be SURE that the suspect IS armed?
Nov 24th 2014
81
           it seems they were sure in this case.
Nov 24th 2014
90
           not sure how else to put it for you
Nov 24th 2014
93
                There was no way to know it was a BB gun without handling it
Nov 24th 2014
95
                RE: There was no way to know it was a wallet without handling it
Nov 24th 2014
                Interesting that you would switch the details here
Nov 24th 2014
104
                .....or by getting shot.
Nov 24th 2014
103
                work it out.
Nov 24th 2014
98
                Facts at the time and facts in hindsight are two different things
Nov 24th 2014
101
           Because you don't KNOW until you KNOW, and it may be too late
Nov 24th 2014
97
we're ><
Nov 24th 2014
131
You know me already
Nov 24th 2014
was the officer wearing a body cam?
Nov 24th 2014
71
Negros in here copping pleas for police
Nov 24th 2014
74
SHOOT TO KILL!!! When do we talk about that?
Nov 24th 2014
77
How else should they shoot?
Nov 24th 2014
83
that wasn't even what I was implying, I was speaking to SHOOTING TO
Nov 24th 2014
86
      then you should have said "shooting" because all LE shooting aims to kil...
Nov 24th 2014
88
      how else are you supposed to approach
Nov 24th 2014
89
      they could've tickled the boy into submission, yes.
Nov 24th 2014
92
      YAWN, ya'll trying to spin this into something else
Nov 24th 2014
96
           try these:
Nov 24th 2014
100
                which one says, when dealing with a 12 Y.O. suspect
Nov 24th 2014
108
                     this one:
Nov 24th 2014
110
                          RE: if a suspect poses a serious threat
Nov 24th 2014
112
                               How would they know it was a toy?
Nov 24th 2014
115
                               by not shooting to kill before knowing
Nov 24th 2014
123
                               How would they know it was a toy? How do they find out?
Nov 24th 2014
132
                               Dispatcher could have told the cops
Nov 27th 2014
265
                               the perception is what matters, guy.
Nov 24th 2014
116
                                    Right, so as long as we are perceived as a threat, not much else matters
Nov 24th 2014
120
                                         yes b/c non-blacks are never killed by police.
Nov 24th 2014
124
                                              I didn't say black, but how the FOK am I suppose to know what someone
Nov 24th 2014
129
                                                   Why do you put this in caps like it's the incontrovertible truth
Nov 24th 2014
133
                                                   What a confusing reply
Nov 24th 2014
137
                                                        What if it was a real gun, with no bullets?
Nov 24th 2014
147
                                                             it wasn't, it was a toy. why do we need hypotheticals?
Nov 24th 2014
155
                                                                  Because there is no distinction in terms of the threat it carries
Nov 24th 2014
158
                                                                  It *turned out* to be a toy.
Nov 24th 2014
162
                                                                       RE: It never wasn't a toy.
Nov 24th 2014
164
                                                                            Again: how were the cops to know?
Nov 24th 2014
165
                                                   You don’t know that a cop would perceive a gun as a threat?
Nov 24th 2014
                                                   RE: You don’t know that a cop would perceive a 12 Y.O. with a toy as a...
Nov 24th 2014
140
                                                        How do they know the gun was a toy?
Nov 24th 2014
141
                                                   you don't, man.
Nov 24th 2014
135
                                                        so why is it so hard to say, you're perception was wrong and you need to
Nov 24th 2014
142
                                                             b/c then it becomes impossible for police to do their job effectively.
Nov 24th 2014
145
                                                                  RE: b/c then it becomes impossible for police to do their job effectivel...
Nov 24th 2014
150
                                                                       yup.
Nov 24th 2014
153
      So you mean "trigger happy", not shoot to kill.
Nov 24th 2014
106
the idea that cops can shoot any other way is a fantasy.
Nov 24th 2014
84
reply 86, that's not even what I was saying
Nov 24th 2014
87
Yes, let's ignore all the details that are inconvenient to your outrage
Nov 24th 2014
Yes, let's ignore all the details that are inconvenient to your outrage
Nov 24th 2014
105
      Fact #1, there was no gun
Nov 24th 2014
130
           Yes, there was a gun. Please explain how they'd know it was a fake
Nov 24th 2014
136
                same way the 911 caller did, by considering the facts
Nov 24th 2014
159
                     Probably fake said by some guy is not confirmation of a fake
Nov 24th 2014
161
                          and this is what tripped me out when the young man was murdered at
Nov 24th 2014
166
                          John Crawford wasn't pointing at anyone.
Nov 24th 2014
167
                               12Y.O. with a toy gun is all I need to know this is wrong.
Nov 24th 2014
169
                                    Whatever makes it easier to justify your irrational, emotional outrage
Nov 24th 2014
170
                                         and you just admitted you don't know anything about what happened
Nov 24th 2014
171
                                              mad at whom or what though?
Nov 24th 2014
172
                                              a 12Y.O. was shot dead.
Nov 24th 2014
174
                                                   mad at whom or what?
Nov 24th 2014
176
                                                        were you never 12Y.O.?
Nov 24th 2014
177
                                                             yup. and i never played w/a bb gun when i was 12.
Nov 24th 2014
178
                                                             Why do you insist on oversimplifying everything everyone says?
Nov 24th 2014
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                                              False. I admitted I don't know everything that happened.
Nov 24th 2014
173
                                                   RE: The cops shot and killed 12 year old with a toy!
Nov 24th 2014
175
                                                        because. there. is. more. to. this. than. that.
Nov 24th 2014
180
                                                             I read your reply as...shot to kill first, figure out the facts later
Nov 24th 2014
181
                                                                  We've established that you delete details that inconvenience your views
Nov 24th 2014
183
                          Why is probably fake and being a child not enough?
Nov 27th 2014
263
I am curious how big the kid was. Did he not look like a kid?
Nov 24th 2014
99
I just saw a statement that he was "big for his age"
Nov 24th 2014
109
He was as strong as Hulk Hogan too
Nov 27th 2014
266
aint no 12 year old that looks 20
Dec 06th 2014
332
I'm taking note in here, for when the video is released
Nov 24th 2014
111
      You're taking note in here for when video evidence is released?
Nov 24th 2014
118
      same notes people take in threads about rape, gays, etc???
Nov 24th 2014
126
           masturbate, I suppose.
Nov 24th 2014
163
                oooooohhh yeahhhh - randy savage
Nov 24th 2014
168
      take note of those who reached opinions based on evidence
Nov 24th 2014
122
i'm usually team #fuckthepolice
Nov 24th 2014
113
Eric Frein
Nov 24th 2014
114
Shady back room dealings can take time
Jan 07th 2015
335
It all depends on the particular circumstances...
Nov 24th 2014
117
gotta hear all sides.
Nov 24th 2014
119
      DC sniper and Lee Malvo were found asleep in their car.
Nov 24th 2014
121
      so the cops didn't know they were black b/c otherwise
Nov 24th 2014
125
           yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying... *smh*
Nov 24th 2014
128
                my bad dude. i'll hold your hand and walk you through this.
Nov 24th 2014
139
                     or you could just say you're wrong and shut the fuck up.
Nov 24th 2014
146
                          if i were wrong i'd say that.
Nov 24th 2014
149
                               I never asked for an apology, real or fake. You gave a bad example...
Nov 24th 2014
152
                                    i'm glad this is the end for you
Nov 24th 2014
154
      so mass shooters are the most compliant?
Nov 24th 2014
138
      each case is fact specific.
Nov 24th 2014
144
           fine =(
Nov 24th 2014
157
                we can still be like 'F the Police'
Nov 24th 2014
160
                     oh...yay!
Nov 24th 2014
182
      true, when a cop says "Show me your hands!", if you do anything other...
Nov 25th 2014
195
If the report is accurate and they really followed protocol...
Nov 24th 2014
127
I own several Airsoft guns and they look real as hell
Nov 24th 2014
148
this is where i'm at basically:
Nov 24th 2014
151
'have'
Nov 24th 2014
156
      lol. damn dude. hahhaha
Nov 26th 2014
207
Per the Article, Tamir Rice never pointed the gun. And there's a video
Nov 25th 2014
184
Caller said it was a fake 3X
Nov 25th 2014
186
      that doesn't mean the dispatcher relayed that to the responding officers...
Nov 25th 2014
187
      I don't think she did.
Nov 25th 2014
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           I doubt telling them they thought it was fake would've done much
Nov 25th 2014
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                you never know, it may have changed their approach, even if only slightl...
Nov 25th 2014
193
                     Yeah. Too many variables to take a firm stance until that happens
Nov 25th 2014
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      The caller also made the call
Nov 25th 2014
188
      he said 'probably'. he also said he was scaring the shit out of ppl.
Nov 25th 2014
190
      The term "probably" would have connoted that.....
Nov 25th 2014
194
Also, there were two cops on the scene. I wonder if the other would..
Nov 25th 2014
199
Surveillance video may be released today:
Nov 26th 2014
200
#rustbelt
Nov 26th 2014
201
CRICKETS
Nov 26th 2014
203
soon as he got out of the car he opened fire
Nov 26th 2014
205
      he barely made it out of the car.
Nov 26th 2014
206
           #ringthealarm
Nov 26th 2014
219
As I suspected, they startled the shit out of the boy.
Nov 26th 2014
204
i'm skeptical if they even yelled show your hands
Nov 26th 2014
208
Yeah it's really shaky. We're talking about less than 3 seconds..
Nov 26th 2014
209
the car blocked my view of too much
Nov 26th 2014
210
the cop car pulls up on Tamir at 19 second mark
Nov 26th 2014
211
i didn't see him hit the ground...i saw the car block my view of him
Nov 26th 2014
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      you should watch again
Nov 26th 2014
214
      Probably because he fell less than 3 seconds after the cars comes into..
Nov 26th 2014
215
      ole literal ass nigga
Nov 26th 2014
226
Why do ya'll do this? Why can't you just see the video and have that be
Nov 26th 2014
212
damn... they didn't even stop the car before popping him
Nov 26th 2014
222
      pretty much. The video gives context that the article does no justice.
Nov 26th 2014
223
The cop also radio'd in that the kid was apprx. 20 after he had shot him
Nov 26th 2014
216
I don't understand why the police approached the scene in that manner
Nov 26th 2014
217
Their defense will be that suspects in that area typically run.
Nov 26th 2014
218
RE: I don't understand why the police approached the scene in that manne...
Nov 26th 2014
220
and get out on the same side of the vehicle as the potential gunman
Nov 26th 2014
225
looked like something a cop would do in a movie...
Nov 28th 2014
270
the more i'm hearing about this case the more it's sounding like bullshi...
Nov 26th 2014
221
ALL THE NIGGAS HERE COPIN PLEASE FOR POLICE GET A INFINITE
Nov 26th 2014
224
Coons because we don't want to fry someone off no information?
Nov 26th 2014
234
Naw yall negros were making all kinds of assumptions in favor of police
Nov 26th 2014
235
Why isn't that enough?
Nov 26th 2014
236
      There is plenty of reason to be mad that a 12 year old is dead
Nov 26th 2014
238
           I do find it interesting (and somewhat alarming) that even given the det...
Nov 26th 2014
239
           RE:fear of black males where the same fear doesn't exist for others
Nov 26th 2014
242
           They're bad people
Nov 26th 2014
248
           RE: There is plenty of reason to be mad that a 12 year old is dead
Nov 26th 2014
240
                that's partly why for me it was never about the gun being real or fake.
Nov 26th 2014
241
                If this is your line of thinking, that it was a toy is even more irrelev...
Nov 26th 2014
243
*wipes brow* WHEW just missed the train!
Nov 26th 2014
245
POST 234 TELLS YOU TO SHUT THE ENTIRE FUCK UP
Nov 26th 2014
247
      YOU COON TRAIN RIDING NIGGA WHERE DID THE INFORMATION
Nov 26th 2014
250
           COON TRAIN DEEZ SWEATY NUTS, NIGGA
Nov 26th 2014
253
That's a murder #FTP
Nov 26th 2014
227
Indict!!
Nov 26th 2014
228
Cuyahoga won't fuck it up.
Nov 26th 2014
232
Video of Cleveland police shooting of Tamir Rice raises disturbing quest...
Nov 26th 2014
237
Definitely troubling
Nov 26th 2014
244
then they say they told him to put his hands up AND
Nov 26th 2014
246
      just like the cop that shot the guy reaching back into his car
Dec 05th 2014
316
Okay now that the video is out, anybody wanna adjust their stance?
Nov 26th 2014
249
mine did
Nov 26th 2014
251
RE: mine did
Nov 26th 2014
254
yes, went from 'poorly handled/sad' to 'fry these fuckers'
Nov 27th 2014
255
^^^
Nov 27th 2014
259
given the spped of their approach
Nov 28th 2014
281
disgusting. And lol at some of u for believing the cops. They are LIARS
Nov 26th 2014
252
and who they knew was a kid and likely had a fake gun
Nov 27th 2014
256
Horrible. But a pellet gun? Why?
Nov 27th 2014
257
that was a fucking drive-by. smh. 12 yrs. old.
Nov 27th 2014
258
A quick summary of extra judicial murders in recent memory.
Nov 27th 2014
260
look at what these niggas were saying before the video was released publ...
Nov 27th 2014
261
I'm a country boy. I had cap guns and BB guns as a kid.
Nov 27th 2014
262
#FTP
Nov 27th 2014
267
Folks really mad that ppl changed their mind after the video?
Nov 28th 2014
268
I think it is disheartening to think that it took the video for some...
Nov 28th 2014
269
^^^ If people can't see that the ENTIRE SYSTEM is guilty as hell
Nov 28th 2014
271
some people want to believe the bullshit they hear whe it comes to cops....
Nov 28th 2014
274
pretty much
Nov 28th 2014
272
This is why I love Ida B. Wells works.
Nov 28th 2014
273
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 28th 2014
275
i never said anything about his parents shoulda taught him better but
Nov 28th 2014
276
      but he wasn't though, they never identify a weapon, they identify young
Nov 28th 2014
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      i didnt know that to be fact until i saw the footage
Nov 28th 2014
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      It isn't a matter of jumping to conclusions.
Nov 28th 2014
280
           im always open to that but when even the mother in the situation was say...
Nov 28th 2014
282
           I think being open to being skeptical means that you question the office...
Dec 04th 2014
287
                You're drawing your own conclusions from what I'm saying.
Dec 05th 2014
291
                     Ultimately I think you are right, the standard shouldn't be we have to h...
Dec 05th 2014
308
                          Wasn't the standard more about confirmation though?
Dec 06th 2014
322
Ugh! Stop making this about you! Is whatever perceived slight at you
Nov 28th 2014
277
Cops's father said the officer had no choice:
Dec 03rd 2014
283
Justice Dept. finds Cleveland police used excessive force (swipe)
Dec 04th 2014
284
officer who killed Tamir Rice had been deemed unfit for duty
Dec 04th 2014
285
WOW.
Dec 04th 2014
286
a damn shame
Dec 04th 2014
288
crazy
Dec 05th 2014
289
unbelievable
Dec 05th 2014
292
SoWhat and Cold Truth...where ya'll at?
Dec 05th 2014
290
Oh brother. I'm here. What's good?
Dec 05th 2014
293
Don't put my name in that. I've made my thoughts on the topic clear.
Dec 05th 2014
294
Yes, you were clear, and just as off base as the others.
Dec 05th 2014
295
      RE: Yes, you were clear, and just as off base as the others.
Dec 05th 2014
296
           Nah. Sorry.
Dec 05th 2014
298
                I'm not reading all that bullshit. Here's the bottom line.
Dec 05th 2014
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                     lol, then don't write your own long ass post of bullshit next time.
Dec 05th 2014
301
                          Keep talking. It's entertaining to know much the rock I didn't throw at...
Dec 05th 2014
304
                               Interesting, since none of that exists in the post that upset you
Dec 05th 2014
305
                                    Although you had no true opinion, you've lumped yourself into a bucket..
Dec 05th 2014
306
                                         Lol. Just... no. Stop.
Dec 05th 2014
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                                              You got called out and got mad.
Dec 05th 2014
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                                                   You can go fuck yourself with that coward comment.
Dec 05th 2014
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                                                        I'm calling it how I see it.
Dec 05th 2014
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                                                             That explains everything. Looks like you need some glasses, champ.
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                  So I explain to you what *I* meant by what I said. CLEARLY.
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                       Look, either own your own statements or shut the fuck up
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                            I'm done with you.
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                                 You know what? I'll fucking edit and forget it.
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                                 Your lack of reading comprehension on display once again.
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                                 I'm done bro. I edited that last one, apologized, and gave up the ghost
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                                 this was before your edit. Debate over.
Dec 06th 2014
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                                                                                 I was editing while you were responding
Dec 06th 2014
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RE: post #249...you could have said that then...but you needed your
Dec 05th 2014
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      How am a wrong when I never had an opinion?
Dec 05th 2014
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           ctrl + f cold truth = 65, but you never had an opinion, OkayPlayer
Dec 05th 2014
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                Exhibit C of your complete logical ineptitude
Dec 05th 2014
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                What does 266 have to do with this, exactly?
Dec 05th 2014
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                     I made a mistake, see how that works, it's not that hard
Dec 05th 2014
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                          You might have the worst critical thinking skills of anyone. Ever.
Dec 05th 2014
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what?
Dec 05th 2014
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this story evolved. initially it seemed reasonable that the police would...
Dec 05th 2014
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      this is why it's troubling.
Dec 05th 2014
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yal really bammed up this post with these pointless back n forths over n...
Dec 05th 2014
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Way to contribute to the solution there champ!
Dec 06th 2014
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      cool. Let's move on
Dec 06th 2014
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RE: 12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland Police officer at Cudell recreatio...
Dec 07th 2014
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Getting close to 2 months...and...NOTHING!
Jan 07th 2015
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apparently the police didn't learn and tried to hire another
Jan 07th 2015
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      At this point, I'm left asking, what would it take?
Jan 07th 2015
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           this one is a disaster. negligence! plus ohio is an open-carry state
Jan 07th 2015
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                RE: ohio is an open-carry state
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