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Family sues Hammond police over traffic stop violence
OCT. 7, 2014
A simple traffic stop for an unworn seat belt turned into a nightmare for a family on their way to visit a sick loved one in the hospital, after police officers drew their guns, smashed a window and used a Taser on an unarmed passenger.

According to a lawsuit filed this week, Lisa Mahone of Indiana was pulled over by police officers in Hammond, Indiana while en route to an Illinois hospital to visit her ailing mother. Soon after the stop, Mahone says police laid out spike strips in front of her car.

Officers then order Mahone’s boyfriend, Jamal Jones who was sitting in the passenger seat to get out of the vehicle.

In cell phone video captured by a terrified 14-year-old sitting in the back seat of Mahone’s car, you can hear Mahone on the line with a 911 operator saying that she fears for her life and that moments earlier officers had pulled their guns on the couple.

“I’m scared for my life,” Mahone is heard telling the operator. “He just pulled a gun on us and we don’t have a gun.”

Jones refused to exit the vehicle because he feared for his safety, according to the lawsuit filed on Monday. An officer is then seen in the video smashing through the passenger side window with what appears to be a night stick and shocking Jones with a Taser.

Jones is seen writhing in pain as he’s dragged from the car, placed on the ground and shocked again.

Joseph Ivy, the teenager who shot the video, and his little sister, Janiya, were reportedly injured by spraying glass, according to the complaint. In the aftermath of the arrest, the younger passengers can be heard sobbing.

“He was never told he was being arrested and he was never told why they were ordering him out of the car or asking him to get out of the car,” attorney Dana Kurtz told NBC Chicago. “Thankfully Joseph videotaped it. I mean, what a great, smart 14-year-old to videotape this so there is actual evidence, and to be able to protect them and other citizens from this kind of conduct.”

The lawsuit claims that the two officers involved, Patrick Vicari and Charles Turner, both of whom are white, used excessive force, false arrest and battery against Jones, who is African-American.

Jones was subsequently charged with resisting law enforcement, failure to aid an officer and cited for not wearing a seat belt, according to Hammond police. Mahone was issued a citation for failure to wear a seat belt and a license plate reciprocity violation.

Hammond police said officers took appropriate action after Mahone lurched her car forward after officers pulled her over and Jones’ refusal to step out of the vehicle. In a statement released on Tuesday morning, Lt. Richard Hoyda of the Hammond Police Department said that during the stop Jones’ repeatedly reached toward the rear of the vehicle and that officers feared he may have been reaching for a weapon.

Hoyda said officers pulled over Mahone’s car about 3:45 p.m. on Sept. 24 after they spotted Mahone and Jones not wearing their seatbelts. Hoyda said that Mahone handed over her license when asked but told officers that Jones didn’t have any identification with him.

When officers asked Jones to provide his identification on a piece of paper, he refused to lower his window more than a crack, according to Hoyda.

Jones then told the officer that “he was not going to do his (the officer’s) job,” and for police to provide a piece of paper for him, police said.

Hoyda said officers then called for back-up after Jones refused over and again to provide his identification and was seen reaching toward the back seat.

According to police 13 minutes had gone by and at least three different officers had asked Jones to get out of the car.

“Fearing the occupants of the vehicle may have possessed a weapon, and seeing the passenger repeatedly reach towards the rear seats of the vehicle, the first officer then broke the passenger side window of the vehicle and the passenger was removed from the vehicle and was placed under arrest,” Hoyda said.

“The Hammond Police officers were at all times acting in the interest of officer safety and in accordance with Indiana law.”


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The episode is just the latest in a string of troubling, fatal encounters between unarmed African-Americans and white police officers.

In July, police in Staten Island, New York choked to death Eric Garner minutes after accosting him on a street corner for selling loose, untaxed cigarettes.

In early August, police officers in Beavercreek, Ohio fatally shot John Crawford III at a Wal-Mart store after he’d picked up a toy gun off a shelf. Minutes earlier, a customer had called 9-11 and alleged that Crawford was armed with a gun and aiming it at children and other shoppers. Surveillance video contradicts that Crawford ever aimed the gun at anyone, and captures police gunning him down as he nonchalantly talks on his cell phone while toying with the plastic gun.

Just days later on Aug. 9, a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri shot and killed unarmed black teen Michael Brown after the officer stopped the teen while he was walking with a friend from a nearby convenience store. Several witnesses say Brown was fired on as he attempted to run away from the officer and that the fatal shots came as he was turning with his hands up in surrender. The killing sparked national outrage and protests and rioting locally.

On Sept. 10, police in Saratoga Springs, Utah fatally shot Darrien Hunt, who family say was armed with little more than a toy Samurai sword when he was killed. Police say he lunged at them with the toy sword, but inexplicably to Hunt’s supporters, Hunt was shot and killed dozens of feet away from where the altercation allegedly began.

In South Carolina, on Sept. 26, a police officer was arrested and charged with aggravated assault over his response to a routine stop at a gas station earlier in the month. The cop, who is white, stopped an African-American for a seat belt violation on Sept. 4, according to the report. When the driver reached into his vehicle to grab his ID, the officer suddenly fired several gunshots at him, the video allegedly showed.

Across the country, encounters with the police are being captured on video by citizens, some of which show how volatile and dangerous encounters with police can be.

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Hammond Police Dept Break Through Vehicle Window and Taze Passenger [View all] , Binladen, Tue Oct-07-14 09:58 PM
 
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PLEASE DONT LET THIS NIGGA HAVE WARRANTS OR BE ON PAROLE
Oct 07th 2014
1
Lol!
Oct 07th 2014
2
lol!
Oct 07th 2014
3
they did it to skip gates. it ended with the Comm in chief apologizing
Oct 08th 2014
6
Skip Gates didnt get did this violently.
Oct 08th 2014
11
Skip Gates got arrested on his porch
Oct 08th 2014
9
http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/lake/30353022-418/laporte-issues-warra...
Oct 09th 2014
105
More info. Stopped for an alleged seatbelt violation.
Oct 07th 2014
4
dont matter
Oct 07th 2014
5
      I know, just giving more details.
Oct 08th 2014
8
           Im reeeaaaallllly hoping this nigga wasnt riding durty
Oct 08th 2014
12
                same here
Oct 08th 2014
17
terrorists.
Oct 08th 2014
7
HMD STAND UP
Oct 08th 2014
10
Who's gonna be the first to say "he shoulda complied?"
Oct 08th 2014
14
This why my momma taught me to NEVER leave out the house without ID
Oct 08th 2014
19
      Do you have your papers? (nazi voice)
Oct 08th 2014
21
           he ain't gotta carry ID.
Oct 08th 2014
23
                I'm with you, but unfortunately, they got us there too
Oct 08th 2014
33
                     no.
Oct 08th 2014
39
they traumatized that lil' girl. shit aint right.
Oct 08th 2014
15
I thought it was a boy, but he or she will remember it the rest of their...
Oct 08th 2014
16
      yeah there's a longer version where u see her dress @ 4:35 (link)
Oct 08th 2014
20
      #31
Oct 08th 2014
35
      boy and a girl in the backseat. boy was recording
Oct 08th 2014
64
this bullshit right here....
Oct 08th 2014
18
Black CNN Anchor goes off on old white guy claiming race wasnt factor
Oct 08th 2014
22
ugh. that righteous indignation on the male anchor's part is disgusting.
Oct 08th 2014
28
I wanted to punch the white guy in the face
Oct 08th 2014
41
Am I the only one thinking that he should have just complied?
Oct 08th 2014
24
and then hop on one leg and spread your buttcheeks.
Oct 08th 2014
26
let's address this.
Oct 08th 2014
27
Well... Let me take the other side for a sec.
Oct 08th 2014
34
      they laid spike strips in front of the vehicle.
Oct 08th 2014
36
      no.
Oct 08th 2014
38
      Ok.. What would you have done if asked to exit the vehicle?
Oct 08th 2014
43
           k.
Oct 08th 2014
46
                Really. you gonna cop an attitude over a conversation. Boy bye!
Oct 08th 2014
51
                     i'm not interested in discussing the matter w/you any further.
Oct 08th 2014
52
                          What would you have done?
Oct 08th 2014
58
      there IS no level of compliance if the cops feel like messing with
Oct 08th 2014
40
           Whoa. This is just me taking the other side for the convo, but
Oct 08th 2014
47
this is about cops bringing shit down a notch - not compliance
Oct 08th 2014
30
What would you have done?
Oct 08th 2014
45
      case, if someone tells you to convert to islam at gunpoint --
Oct 08th 2014
67
           This. Are you seriously asking this question?
Oct 08th 2014
80
                get ur troll on, man. do ur thang, playboy.
Oct 08th 2014
83
                im curious. would you 'convert' at gunpoint?
Oct 08th 2014
86
he started to comply
Oct 08th 2014
48
Have you ever been pulled over by the police and gave attitude?
Oct 08th 2014
55
      i have never been pulled over by a cop...
Oct 08th 2014
61
           Well if you do get pulled over, don't take this OKP liberal advice
Oct 08th 2014
63
                LOL! I'd probably act like that black actress in LA
Oct 08th 2014
65
                     You going to jail...LOL
Oct 08th 2014
66
                          she didn't go to jail
Oct 08th 2014
68
                               Girl, you better just smile and don't talk...lol
Oct 08th 2014
69
                                    i don't smile and if they ask a question i have to talk...
Oct 08th 2014
72
                                         OK. Try ya luck...
Oct 08th 2014
74
                                              thanks! good advice
Oct 08th 2014
75
RE: Am I the only one thinking that he should have just complied?
Oct 08th 2014
85
      he explained why he didn't get out of the car.
Oct 08th 2014
89
           RE: he explained why he didn't get out of the car.
Oct 08th 2014
95
                he got what he deserved for talkin back to good white folk!
Oct 08th 2014
96
He complied...he didn't have a license because if a traffic ticket
Oct 08th 2014
25
Where do they confiscate a license because of a traffic ticket
Oct 08th 2014
29
      Chicago for one...
Oct 08th 2014
32
      First i ever heard of that. And i got my license suspended in diff state...
Oct 08th 2014
50
      it's not a law that i know of that citizens have to carry id on them, t...
Oct 08th 2014
54
This was the report I saw the other day on it.
Oct 08th 2014
31
I watched it last night...
Oct 08th 2014
37
i spend a LOT of time in hammond. let me tell u about hammond cops
Oct 08th 2014
42
Damn nm
Oct 08th 2014
44
smh
Oct 08th 2014
53
yep, they had to get a gary, indiana judge to reside while he was suspen...
Oct 08th 2014
57
RE: 20-25 mile per hour speed limit
Oct 08th 2014
87
      they have a few schools a block over , BUT the sped limit isn't
Oct 08th 2014
91
BUT.....i believe cops can legally make passengers exit a vehicle
Oct 08th 2014
49
that ain't the issue.
Oct 08th 2014
56
but it's a fact tho. i'm not arguing or trying to argue
Oct 08th 2014
59
the reason i stated this was because a LOT of people don't know this
Oct 08th 2014
60
Bro. Stop making sense. You and I are talking about Survival.
Oct 08th 2014
62
      you're really just stating the obvious -
Oct 08th 2014
70
      You change the System By Changing the LAWS and Elected Officials.
Oct 08th 2014
76
           but if everyone is ALWAYS complying to irrational police tactics --
Oct 08th 2014
79
                Civil and reasonable protest.
Oct 08th 2014
81
                     you know those mlk + jesus posters can see you jacking off, right?
Oct 08th 2014
82
                          i didn't read the replies, but how did the Lord get brought into this?
Oct 08th 2014
94
                               Bro, that what they all do when they get stuck with Bent Logic.
Oct 08th 2014
97
      i'm saying *I* would have gotten out, but i can see why dude
Oct 08th 2014
71
           I don't think the guy was staying in the car to posture.
Oct 08th 2014
73
           yup.
Oct 08th 2014
77
           RE: i'm saying *I* would have gotten out, but i can see why dude
Oct 08th 2014
78
Can't reform em. (c) MF Doom n/m
Oct 08th 2014
84
@SoWhat, is stepping out of the vehicle akin to self incrimination
Oct 08th 2014
88
no.
Oct 08th 2014
90
IANAL but...
Oct 09th 2014
104
i wanna go somewhere where i can repeatedly get tazed
Oct 08th 2014
92
Naw playa. You don't want that.
Oct 08th 2014
98
i will say this tho...know your rights, know what u can refuse and what
Oct 08th 2014
93
Yeah. People and their Street Lawyer knowledge...LOL.
Oct 08th 2014
99
From the ACLU
Oct 09th 2014
102
WANTED
Oct 09th 2014
100
Good thing you're sitting by the door!
Oct 09th 2014
101
      LoL niiiiiice play. nice nice play.
Oct 09th 2014
103
update. she and he are suing the city. but it's paused right now until
Mar 19th 2015
106
It's a distraction to say he should have gotten out his car.
Mar 19th 2015
107

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