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"I have a real hard time believing Baby is a gifted businessman. "
Thu Apr-17-14 10:55 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

The Forbes Five: Hip-Hop's Wealthiest Artists 2014 list is out and its the usual suspects.

Diddy, Jay, Dre, 50 and Baby.

Diddy and Jay, I get. Them dudes are hustlers to the core in the biggest hustle town in the world.

Dre and 50 I have always figured they got lucky with their outside of music hustles and/or paired with great businessman.

It wa Jimmy Iovine who crafted the Dre Beats deal that made them both filthy and almost drove beats bankrupt. Was it Steve Stoute or Chris Lighty that did the Vitamin Water deals? Either way I see both these cats one lucky endorsement deal from NOT being on this list.

Finally Baby. I hear him talk, I see the tattoos, and I just have a heard time believing dude is a business mastermind. Only folks on this list whose fortune seems largely made from selling music and I can't help but wonder if Cash Money lucked on remaining relevant by snagging Drake off of a mixtape. Without a Drake I am thinking Baby wouldn't surpass a Masta P or a James Prince.

Does my anti-Baby bias make me a regionalist, elitist or racist?


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I have a real hard time believing Baby is a gifted businessman. [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Apr-17-14 10:53 AM
 
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Maybe mack Maine is the stringer bell to his Avon barksdale
Apr 17th 2014
1
he signed the best distibution deal in the history of music
Apr 17th 2014
2
better than Master P's?
Apr 17th 2014
28
how so?
Apr 17th 2014
39
RE: how so?
Apr 17th 2014
61
RE: he signed the best distibution deal in the history of music
Apr 18th 2014
97
sunno... but I heard Russell Simmons in and interview....
Apr 17th 2014
3
Yeah I have heard that a couple of times
Apr 17th 2014
6
      there is a lot of luck in anyone self made becoming rich
Apr 17th 2014
9
      did you just call the creator of def jam, lucky?
Apr 18th 2014
87
      and Phat Farm, and the entire pre-paid debit sector
Apr 18th 2014
103
      RE: Yeah I have heard that a couple of times
Apr 18th 2014
98
yes,
Apr 17th 2014
4
Baby's business model = having itchy palms
Apr 17th 2014
5
I don't believe anyone is stupid or smart
Apr 17th 2014
7
Naw there are definitely smart and dumb niggas
Apr 17th 2014
16
kinda like when someone self-proclaims to be intelligent,
Apr 17th 2014
18
3 things that if you self-describe as such, your not. Smart, Classy and
Apr 17th 2014
22
      my uncle says he's intelligent all the time
Apr 17th 2014
26
      RE: my uncle says he's intelligent all the time
Apr 17th 2014
44
           Yeah but he just has certain interests
Apr 17th 2014
52
      add Funny and Introverted to that list
Apr 17th 2014
33
huh?
Feb 13th 2015
119
not sure what more dude has to do to prove he's a good business man
Apr 17th 2014
8
Clearly he is doing something right. Definitely the problem is me
Apr 17th 2014
19
I would watch the old videos like "No way they can keep this up"
Apr 17th 2014
10
I give him more cred than anybody on that list. Here's why:
Apr 17th 2014
11
as far as running a label is concerned, Baby is Diddy
Apr 17th 2014
17
not just the first wave. I feel like Bangladesh sues them once a year
Apr 17th 2014
31
ditto......
Apr 17th 2014
23
RE: I give him more cred than anybody on that list. Here's why:
Apr 17th 2014
57
I lol'd @ "talent raper"
Apr 17th 2014
76
Baby is a hustler from New Orleans
Apr 17th 2014
12
remember his oil well/oil drilling venture?
Apr 17th 2014
13
this is all I could find on it
Apr 17th 2014
24
      that's actually all that exists except for a online video where he
Apr 17th 2014
34
He also gets a piece of a piece of a whole bunch of people
Apr 17th 2014
14
been curious to research who ACTUALLY is signed to Cash Money
Apr 17th 2014
32
Drake coulda signed anywhere, he chose Cash Money
Apr 17th 2014
15
Jay z interview @ the breakfast club
Apr 17th 2014
20
wayne said the same in interviews
Apr 17th 2014
56
wendy day did that
Apr 17th 2014
59
Baby and Diddy the same person
Apr 17th 2014
21
I guess I was half way expecting him to pull a Dame Dash
Apr 17th 2014
25
Dame and Suge thought that Jay and Dre were disposable
Apr 17th 2014
30
      not sure about that...
Apr 17th 2014
37
           Jay stabbed him in the back?
Apr 17th 2014
46
                I believe he did
Apr 18th 2014
82
                the back, the front and the side
Apr 18th 2014
91
                yeah but he kinda had to
Apr 18th 2014
92
                No blame for Dame still I see. Shits hilarious.
Apr 18th 2014
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                who said Dame is innocent? LOL...
Apr 18th 2014
107
                only on OKP is losing toxic baggage backstabbing
Feb 13th 2015
120
it's all about perception
Apr 17th 2014
27
50s bread largely comes from 50 water.
Apr 17th 2014
35
do u actually read up on the facts of his business ventures
Apr 17th 2014
42
I am relying on forbes, Bloomberg Businessweek and other
Apr 17th 2014
58
      so u do kno hes basically been a mascot for these 'partnerships' right?
Apr 17th 2014
77
           precisely
Apr 18th 2014
89
lionsgate movie deal. 200m SK energy drink #2 in mkt share
Apr 17th 2014
78
are you crazy?
Apr 17th 2014
62
      yea jay z is good at being ahead of the curve
Apr 17th 2014
75
      lol.
Apr 18th 2014
88
obviously the Birdman Lugz did it
Apr 17th 2014
29
he has 3 of the most popular acts in music on his label
Apr 17th 2014
36
I mean so did Suge Knight
Apr 17th 2014
38
      momentarily?
Apr 17th 2014
40
           Yeah, do you see all 3 maintaining their current status indefinitely?
Apr 17th 2014
43
                Baby's been hot nationally since 1998
Apr 17th 2014
45
                Nobody maintains a current status indefinitely.
Apr 17th 2014
49
                     Alright for the next 5 years then?!?
Apr 17th 2014
50
they called him BIRDMAN for a reason
Apr 17th 2014
41
He's been lawyered up from the jump. That should count for something
Apr 17th 2014
47
^^^ This will be a very overlooked piece in this post but it's crucial. ...
Dec 04th 2014
111
1. I am sooooooo glad they stepped in and made No Limit a non factor.
Apr 17th 2014
48
lol Excellent point. I wouldn't dare try to get him to sign off on a
Apr 17th 2014
51
      to me he's like the prototype of the nigga u don't want to share
Apr 17th 2014
54
      Share a cell? I'd probably be too shook to be his correctional officer....
Apr 17th 2014
60
           lmfao
Apr 18th 2014
80
      Baby looks like a respectable gentleman next to that dude
Feb 13th 2015
117
Some details on how the Universal Deal came to be.
Apr 17th 2014
53
I don't get it either. But he has to be doing something right
Apr 17th 2014
55
Hold up, 50's still got Vitamin Water money?
Apr 17th 2014
63
The Vitamin Water deal netted him 300 mil
Apr 17th 2014
64
Yo say that again NET 300M (I think its 200M but whatever).
Apr 17th 2014
69
      has anyone seen the check/transfer? is this like jayz owning the nets?
Apr 17th 2014
71
           50 made about Fifty on that Vitamin water deal (SWIPE)
Apr 17th 2014
73
The Vitamin Water Deal and the Beats Deal are the biggest deals
Apr 17th 2014
65
      How much is Puffy making off of Ciroc?
Apr 17th 2014
66
           Yeah I think Puff makes more off Ciroc then he ever did from music
Apr 17th 2014
67
He is a hustler
Apr 17th 2014
68
Birdman is the most believable one of those 5.
Apr 17th 2014
70
No he's not. Diddy's name has been ringing off for 20 years.
Apr 17th 2014
72
      i haven't purchased anything diddy's sold in years
Apr 18th 2014
94
           mind giving some examples, other than CDs
Apr 18th 2014
96
           ^^^ Has a closet full of Birdman Lugz
Apr 18th 2014
99
           Man, I thought you were joking, until I googled...
Feb 13th 2015
116
           If you say so. Don't let Diddy catch you talking all that cool shit tho
Apr 18th 2014
104
Baby, Puffy, Master P and Suge Knight are bizmen. Jay'z is lucky
Apr 17th 2014
74
y'all realize Forbes whole process is guesstimates, right
Apr 18th 2014
79
Fair enough, but that's true for everybody on Forbes 500
Apr 18th 2014
83
Lol @ "50 got lucky with outside music business ventures"
Apr 18th 2014
81
yea, but his levels of success on those ventures
Apr 18th 2014
85
      RE: yea, but his levels of success on those ventures
Apr 18th 2014
100
      thank you. i mentioned it up top
Apr 18th 2014
102
      Lol. Yall really don't know 'bout 50.
Apr 18th 2014
105
i believe him and Slim really DO have bodies. like...for real
Apr 18th 2014
84
TL;DR ... Southerners are stupid
Apr 18th 2014
86
luck doesnt last 15-20 years...the guy obviously knows what he's doing
Apr 18th 2014
90
people love questioning the legitimacy of a black businessman
Apr 18th 2014
93
Thank you.
Apr 18th 2014
106
I question the business acumen of all men with tattoos on their eyelids
Dec 04th 2014
110
Al Sharp went Fed, and he's as black biz as they come
Feb 13th 2015
118
some street niggas are real good with business and money
Apr 18th 2014
101
I love how only folks from NY can be "smart"
Apr 18th 2014
108
Timely topic.
Dec 04th 2014
109
I am pretty sure we will find out in the next few months he is NOT
Feb 13th 2015
112
It ain't Baby, it's Slim making all the moves...
Feb 13th 2015
113
because of the way he talks? Ever hear of Willie Gary? compare his...
Feb 13th 2015
114
I think the results speak for themselves....
Feb 13th 2015
115
was this discussed anywhere? (NSFW language)
Feb 16th 2015
121
that's young thug? u sure about that?
Feb 16th 2015
122
      edited.
Feb 16th 2015
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